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Exclusive - The Vetting - Barack Obama, the First Tea Partier

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posted on May, 25 2012 @ 09:30 AM
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Originally posted by KonquestAbySS
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BTW supporters, no one is suggesting he started the tea party,


Your right, but he started the ##SNIPPED## party which is a sexual innuendo...How is this acceptable?


Again, WTF are you talking about?
The tea##SNIPPED## started that.
"##SNIPPED## them before they ##SNIPPED## us!"
Yeah, that was all you guys.
Neat, trying to blame Obama for the Tea##SNIPPED## choosing a stupid name for themselves.
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posted on May, 25 2012 @ 10:04 AM
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LOL, I get a warning from a mod for using the term "tea #snip#", but the term came straight from the Tea Party Movement itself.

THEY, the TPM, coinded the term and began applying it to their actions. So to call them "tea #snip#"" is 100% in line with their own views and actions.


The current Tea Party movement initially came up with the 'clever' idea of sending Tea bags to members of Congress. It was in their initial rallys that they started referring to this act of sending their representatives boxes of tea bags as 'TEA#snip#"":




Once again, it was the CONSERVATIVES who coined the term "tea bagger":

NRO admits conservatives coined ‘Tea#snip#"’

Rise of an Epithet

The first big day for this movement was Tax Day, April 15. And organizers had a gimmick. They asked people to send a tea bag to the Oval Office.


FOX News also ran with the "tea#snip#" moniker:

Shuster went on to say that Fox News personalities were “looking forward to an up-close-and-personal taste of tea#snip#".”


Tea Party vendors selling buttons "Proud to be a tea#snip#""


Breitbart.com is using the term in their video "I'm proud to be a tea#snip#"" - but don't bother looking for the video on their site, they since pulled it. Original link was:
biggovernment.com/abreitbart/2010/04/14/im-proud-to-be-a-tea-bagger/


So all I'm saying in this post is that "tea#snip#"" was brought to the mainstream by the conservatives, who are now using it to attack anyone who still refers to "tea partiers" as "tea #snip#"". Who are the hypocrites? Go figure...
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posted on May, 25 2012 @ 04:45 PM
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posted on May, 25 2012 @ 04:47 PM
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Good information! Thanks for posting it. However, I highly doubt those two people in the photos had any clue as to the darker alternative meaning of the "term". You still get a point from me. It was however the anti tea party bunch that ran with it and made it the running gag for months on end.



posted on May, 25 2012 @ 04:51 PM
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Well put Third.....people who do not understand the founders and their visions for the country do not understand the difference between a strong defense, protection of our country, life, liberty and pursiut of happiness and unnecessary offensive actions. They see it all as one action.
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posted on May, 25 2012 @ 05:08 PM
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The first two in the media who made the *wink wink, nudge nudge* acknowledgement of the darker meaning of "tea #snip#" were Anderson Cooper and Rachel Maddow, but the real mass awareness of the meaning came when Grover Norquist blew up on Fox about the "tea #snip#"r" connotation. He compared the term "tea #snip#"" to the N-word. Then that set off Rachel Maddow, who quickly pointed out that the term was being used first and foremost BY the conservatives, not by the liberals. Most of the TPM events openly embraced the phrase "tea #snip#"" and "tea #snip#"" - and we can be fairly certain those oldsters were not aware of it's urban dictionary definition.

I don't feel the term has any real connection back to the sexual innuendo it previously had, especially not when discussed in politics. If anything it just means a level of disgust that the Tea Party turned out to be nothing more than GOP shills posing as something else. How is "tea#snip#"" any worse than "Lib#snip#"? I'm sure people with developmental disorders are not to happy with the phrase "tard" appended to another word to give it some negative or derogatory meaning. Is Lib#snip#"okay to use but tea #snip#" not?

Back in 2009 I attended a TP event, and like most, I thought it was going to be a real movement, of INDEPENDENTS seeking a middle ground. But it didn't take long to see that the TPM had nothing to do with that, just a bunch of Republicans changing their spots and seeking to get into office in disguise. Those 16 elected "Tea Party Freshmen" that turned right around and gave everything to the banks that they wanted - no real reform, attacking already weak banking regulations, all so banks can continue extracting the wealth of America from it's middle class. They did exactly the opposite of what they campaigned they would do. They certainly deserve every negative sexual-innuendo term that can be hurled at them.
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posted on May, 26 2012 @ 12:18 AM
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Yeah but the TPM identifies itself as right wing so it can do no wrong.



posted on May, 26 2012 @ 12:26 AM
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That was because T Partiers were innocently oblivious of the errr other definition. Thanks to Anderson Cooper, they now know the errr other definition. Thanks Anderson for that.
After that, media personalities began using the term in a derogatory fashion when referring to T parties. They thought it was so funny in their disgusting little snickering way. But then, that is why some of us thought it was sooooo cute of Obama to be dressed up in colonial garb.
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posted on May, 26 2012 @ 12:43 AM
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I never said they called for a draft now did I?

Here is the whole of section 8.


Section. 8.
The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

To borrow Money on the credit of the United States;

To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes;

To establish an uniform Rule of Naturalization, and uniform Laws on the subject of Bankruptcies throughout the United States;

To coin Money, regulate the Value thereof, and of foreign Coin, and fix the Standard of Weights and Measures;

To provide for the Punishment of counterfeiting the Securities and current Coin of the United States;

To establish Post Offices and post Roads;

To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries;

To constitute Tribunals inferior to the supreme Court;

To define and punish Piracies and Felonies committed on the high Seas, and Offences against the Law of Nations;

To declare War, grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal, and make Rules concerning Captures on Land and Water;

To raise and support Armies, but no Appropriation of Money to that Use shall be for a longer Term than two Years;

To provide and maintain a Navy;

To make Rules for the Government and Regulation of the land and naval Forces;

To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;

To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;

To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings;--And

To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.



www.archives.gov...
Notice there is nothing in that section about providing health care services or giving food stamps to citizens, but it does talk a lot about providing a navy and other points of defense.



posted on May, 26 2012 @ 12:48 AM
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I am trying not to have a knee jerk reaction. In section 8 the Constitution specifically calls for a navy. If you don't consider that to be somewhat of a standing army let them know how you feel.

It also says we can declare war. Let me know if you feel like declaring war with one gun and no training.
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posted on May, 26 2012 @ 01:47 AM
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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
They thought it was so funny in their disgusting little snickering way. But then, that is why some of us thought it was sooooo cute of Obama to be dressed up in colonial garb.
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I do not get the connection? Wearing a costume makes you the same as a #snip#"?
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posted on May, 26 2012 @ 01:53 AM
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Originally posted by timetothink
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I'll be surprised if this new person with the constant "wtf's" last till autumn on this site....



I would be amazed if just one of you uses logic, facts, and honesty to try and make your birther arguments for a change so that it seems sincere.
Let's see who gets shocked first.



posted on May, 26 2012 @ 01:59 AM
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Originally posted by jibeho
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Good information! Thanks for posting it. However, I highly doubt those two people in the photos had any clue as to the darker alternative meaning of the "term". You still get a point from me. It was however the anti tea party bunch that ran with it and made it the running gag for months on end.


Of course it is the lefts fault, and I am sure it is Obama's fault. I think this entire argument sums up my initial impressions of the so called tea party; confused and scared.

##SNIPPED##
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posted on May, 26 2012 @ 02:25 AM
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posted on May, 26 2012 @ 02:40 AM
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This is the dumbest article ever.

Progressives don't have a problem with the Gadsden Flag or dressing in colonial garb, or expressing patriotism. Progressives aren't annoyed with Tea Partiers because of those things, they are annoyed with them because of some fundamental differences in their beliefs about what a lot of these symbols mean. I'm not going to debate the whole Right vs. Left argument here, but this article tries to make it seem that only the Right or Libertarians have the right to these symbols, as if the Left doesn't appreciate them or get stirred by them either.

These are American symbols, not Tea Party symbols. The fact that Obama dressed in a colonial outfit and marched before a Gadsden flag shouldn't even be news. This article is just trying to claim symbols that belong to all Americans and reserve them only for a small group, as if to say those are the only ones who deserve to use them, as if they are the only patriots. But that is false.
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posted on May, 26 2012 @ 02:43 AM
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Are you a progressive? Can you give us insight into your view on these things?




posted on May, 26 2012 @ 03:02 AM
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Can you say why you seem to think only right wing minded people can be patriotic? Or seem to be implying it, I'm not really sure.
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posted on May, 26 2012 @ 03:05 AM
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Originally posted by timetothink
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Are you a progressive? Can you give us insight into your view on these things?



Please extol the many virtues of being regressive for us.



posted on May, 26 2012 @ 03:08 AM
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When did I ever say that?

Some people just love to pick fights over non existent slights...

The poster said the progressives view those symbols differently then the Tea Party. I would like to know how?
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posted on May, 26 2012 @ 03:12 AM
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The Constitution and the laws of our country are not regressive....progressive is code for socialism which is Un-American and treasonous...if it is the kind of government you wan,t this is not the country for you...luckily the freedom this country offers you is the freedom to LEAVE.



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