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HAARP Manipulates Time-Physicist Dr. Fran De Aquino: (Very Interesting-if you can understand it)

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posted on May, 24 2012 @ 11:23 AM
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Cern has 18 of his papers going from 1998 to 2007 on their document server.

CERN Document Server

I have gone over many quantum phys forums, blog spots, and people he converses with. The main problem I see is he is open to a new paradigm, free energy, coil mathematics, and well, telling the truth about things your not supposed to know. Most people wont bother even reading his papers because they are so old guard, "Modern Scientific Laws" are the LAWS of GOD. If you say HAARP is more than just what they say you are CrAzY.....
They would never do that.




posted on May, 24 2012 @ 11:29 AM
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Originally posted by Novaroc
Cern has 18 of his papers going from 1998 to 2007 on their document server.

CERN Document Server

I have gone over many quantum phys forums, blog spots, and people he converses with. The main problem I see is he is open to a new paradigm, free energy, coil mathematics, and well, telling the truth about things your not supposed to know. Most people wont bother even reading his papers because they are so old guard, "Modern Scientific Laws" are the LAWS of GOD. If you say HAARP is more than just what they say you are CrAzY.....
They would never do that.




There may very well be more to it and it would be very interesting to see what those possibilities may be. The present paper in question just doesn't accurately portray anything new and different. Perhaps his others do, but I don't have the time right now to peruse through them



posted on May, 24 2012 @ 11:58 AM
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Spot on. Really. Instead of talking # all the day like the other guy, you look for the stuff.
I read your post in the other thread that got closed and so far it sounds plausible. I´m not that math genius but I understand enough to follow.

Btw, what you described is kind of what a tesla coil does with the air above it.



posted on May, 24 2012 @ 12:05 PM
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posted on May, 24 2012 @ 12:45 PM
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As I recall, the only correlation between Time and HAARP, was it's potential for interfering with the Schumans Resonance....between the Ionosphere and the Earths crust.

From memory I thought that relationship changed the perception of time where the frequency of it changes radically. (ie., a drop from ~14Hz to 10Hz or lower)....again, this is from memory. Also, somewhere in that I recall a perceived change in personality because of the loss of time....a residual effect.

I find it a bit difficult to swallow that time/space or geophysical events (barring perhaps lightning) would be much affected by the HAARP project....but who knows.



posted on May, 24 2012 @ 01:32 PM
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The fact to even "state" time-warp or travel ... methodologically describes this man as fantasy specialist, and not as a scientists. And I'd really ask where he go his physicist degree from ... because it's definately "bought" and not "earned", pardon my french.



posted on May, 24 2012 @ 01:37 PM
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Thanks, anon 72, for posting. I think it all seems rather unlikely. If any of it were true we,d be playing a very dangerous game with HAARP....
How could we possibly know what the consequences might be, if HAARP lives up to these claims ?



posted on May, 24 2012 @ 01:50 PM
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Is it possible that his information is so close to the truth that he's falsified his personal life to protect himself?


You may be on to something judging by the titles of the other papers he's authored. Check out google scholar. Granted most are not peer reviewed but pdfs from arXiv, but still interesting topics. I'm not a physics major or anything so I can't verify or dis any of the formulas.

Just seems to me there's a lot at stake here (DNA, Space Travel, Fusion) and it all seems to tie back to the manipulation of electromagnetic fields of extremely-low frequencies (ELF) and gravity. Should be interesting to see how this will play out.

FYI: Deceased Scientists
Yes, I know, not a rigorous source, but still, what are the odds??



posted on May, 24 2012 @ 02:34 PM
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Before I am attacked further, perhaps I should re-post something that seems to have been missed:


Originally posted by adigregorio
reply to post by PurpleChiten
 


Yay for peer reviews! (Also a form of "proof", in case folks were thinking I was after screenshots of diplomas or something...)

PS: I play true neutral in AD&D too


Honestly, the fact stating from both sides is a little heavy. No wonder there is so much strife in these topics...

Anyway! I take it that time manipulation (on a massive scale) is still "just out of reach" then?


EDIT (To add)
Also, let's not forget this gem:


Originally posted by adigregorio
Funny, how when I think that this guy is a fraud I am a "skeptic" or something, even after I said I manipulate time myself...funny...

edit on 5/24/2012 by adigregorio because: Obvious edit is obvious



posted on May, 24 2012 @ 02:34 PM
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Thank you folks for coming in and posting so great info/threads.

I know the beginning was a bit rough with the pictures related to the article being portrayed as illegitimate but that is the writer of the book/article/publisher etc.

The good DR. himself is a different story and you all (mostly) picked up on it and looked at him in more detail.

The problem I have is most of the stuff I found is in Spanish.. etc.



posted on May, 24 2012 @ 02:41 PM
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The good doctor?

You mean the one that has a diploma from a non-accredited university?

You mean the one that lies about where he works?

I mean, it is a good hypothesis. But as the "math experts" said, it doesn't hold water...(I believe that there was a yet involved too)

I am sorry that when a guy lies to me, that it sends red flags up about his honesty in other matters. It is just who I am, and that does not make me a "troll" or a "jerk" [Snipped segment]

EDIT (To clarify)
I used the term "math experts" because I was too lazy to look up the poster(s) names. I apologize for the disservice. [Snipped segment]

EDIT2 (To remove)
Removed off topic stuffs, and thank you to moderators!


edit on 5/24/2012 by adigregorio because: Clarification

edit on 5/24/2012 by adigregorio because: Thank you again mods!



posted on May, 24 2012 @ 02:51 PM
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Originally posted by bjarneorn
The fact to even "state" time-warp or travel ... methodologically describes this man as fantasy specialist


That is the entire point of relativity i.e. the localized distortion of space by a sufficient mass or energy.

There is no qualitative difference between placing your finger in a glass of water and swirling it around vs. using a sufficiently powerful device to manipulate geophysics. The HAARP body, characterized in the paper, is effectively the finger.



posted on May, 24 2012 @ 03:11 PM
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I read his paper on HAARP, and although it might not prove anything about it causing earthquakes, his formulas were accurate and seem to suggest that certain things such as anti-gravity devices are possible. Seeing as I can understand what he is writing (which I'm surprised about), I went to his website and downloaded all of his papers. I am going to look them over. This could be a gold mine for my personal research. Good job OP and everyone else involved.

I don't think the mainstream scientific community is where we are going to be finding our next big advancements in science - they are going to be made by outcast scientists who are going to be discredited or ignored. However, like we discovered, their work will still be online if we can find it.

This could be the result of the formulas and everything being discovered decades ago, but kept secret by the government. It would make sense.

So once again, I am going to be analyzing ALL of his work now.
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posted on May, 24 2012 @ 03:11 PM
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Double Post
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posted on May, 24 2012 @ 03:14 PM
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I was under the impression of this:


The calculations are fine, it's just that the end products don't do what he says they do. He made the paper very math-heavy to discourage people trying to discredit it, but it's his hypothesis and proof of the hypothesis that has issues. The calculations he uses are of little to no value other than showing the elementary concepts behind electromagnetism.


(Sent via PM from another member)

Is this not the case then?



posted on May, 24 2012 @ 03:24 PM
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That is a good point. The interesting thing is, the theory and formulas are accurate. This means that there is a framework that could be used to accomplish stuff like that.

Basically, the reason the paper isn't accurate is because the amount of energy used by HAARP in this particular case isn't enough to cause earthquakes and hurricanes, etc.

Crank up the energy, and you could do it, or make your own device that is actually built to do something like generate anti-gravity fields or what not and it could be possible. That's why I'm interested in looking into this more.

There could be issues though, there is one formula that I think he might have discovered on his own, and this could be inaccurate. The user who PMd you might be right, but he might not be. I'll try to keep you updated.
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posted on May, 24 2012 @ 03:29 PM
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Well I look forward to the results, though I remain (for lack of a better word) skeptical... (Not of you, but of him.)

I guess my next question is going to be: Can we create enough power with a device on Earth to fit the equations?

Then my next question would be: A micro-singularity would have mucho energy no?

My closing, I have a weird cover to my book. Best not to judge right away! (I treat all equal, if skeptics have a claim I need proof. If a fan has a claim, I need proof.) Although I will say my "proof requirements" are pretty light


EDIT (To "Oh yeah!")
Oh yeah, and I DO research, who posted the facts about the doctor not being employed at the college he says he is? Was it not I that helped hunt down the information about where his degree was from, and it's accrediation (or lack thereof).

I thought that was researching, was it not?
edit on 5/24/2012 by adigregorio because: Oh yeah!

edit on 5/24/2012 by adigregorio because: Whom to Who (Grammar Nazi to myself
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posted on May, 24 2012 @ 03:34 PM
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Originally posted by adigregorio
reply to post by darkbake
 


I was under the impression of this:


The calculations are fine, it's just that the end products don't do what he says they do. He made the paper very math-heavy to discourage people trying to discredit it, but it's his hypothesis and proof of the hypothesis that has issues. The calculations he uses are of little to no value other than showing the elementary concepts behind electromagnetism.


(Sent via PM from another member)

Is this not the case then?


That was me, it's ok to share

Thanks for leaving my name out "just in case" though, that was very thoughtful



posted on May, 24 2012 @ 03:42 PM
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The problem is in the ratios. In order to get effects there would have to be EXTREMELY large amounts of energy or there would have to be a significant change in the mass of the object (in this case, the earth) in order to make a significant difference. The Amount of energy would have to be well beyond what could possibly be produced by the equipment (nuclear reactor level) and the earth would have to practically double in mass during the operation, which clearly isn't going to happen.
Not saying it could never work, but a different approach from what the fella in the paper took would have to be taken.



posted on May, 24 2012 @ 03:57 PM
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Originally posted by MrJohnSmith
reply to post by anon72
 


Thanks, anon 72, for posting. I think it all seems rather unlikely. If any of it were true we,d be playing a very dangerous game with HAARP....
How could we possibly know what the consequences might be, if HAARP lives up to these claims ?


We wouldn´t know the consequences and implications of this.

Like so many of the stuff we pull off today, it´ll bite us in the ass when it´s to late.



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