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posted on May, 23 2012 @ 08:48 AM
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The crocks will not rest until they wipe out the retirement accounts and entitlement programs in the nation.

Just remember people who runs the most of the US retirement accounts is JP Morgan/Chase and Goldman Sach.

So yes America is terminal, JP Morgan originated the scam call swaps and thanks to them we are now going down the crapper, because scams will always turn into crap.




posted on May, 23 2012 @ 08:50 AM
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I agree with you. We need a new mindset, one in which equality and liberty is paramount, where the individual is sovereign. We must abolish all forms of authoritarian structure and adopt natural structures to address issues of mutual benefit, organizations of totaly free association. Local unions/communes may create federations of unions/communes to achieve larger goals/ tasks, provided individual sovereignty is maintained.



posted on May, 23 2012 @ 08:50 AM
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America is not terminal as united citizens, what is terminal is the US government.



posted on May, 23 2012 @ 08:52 AM
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First, you blame capitalism, an economic system that doesn't even exist in practice.


Second, you claim that failed centrally planned economies would be better off if they were even further centrally planned.

Finally, you advocate fascism as a "fix" for it all. Do you honestly believe what you say?

Ever heard the truism that it isn't so much what a man doesn't know that causes him so many problems, but what he knows that ain't so?



posted on May, 23 2012 @ 08:54 AM
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Yeah. not many people know it but Austyralia passed 'covered bond legislation' in Australia last year. Now our Banks are selling Australian Bonds that are taxpayer backed. As we are a 'safe haven' I assume they are selling well. We can add all that to our National Debt if our Banks go under in a GFC. Its this kind of traitor bs that needs to stop. I assume US Banks are investing in the debt like they did in the very same scam that was run in Europe on coutries like Greece. All these scams are designed in America.

I wish our Government would stop trying to tangle us up in the mess.
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posted on May, 23 2012 @ 08:55 AM
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Originally posted by tw0330
America is not terminal as united citizens, what is terminal is the US government.


I agree.

I dont think Ron Paul is perfect but he is the best available realistic option.

But,yeah.The US Government is evil.



posted on May, 23 2012 @ 09:04 AM
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Originally posted by METACOMET
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First, you blame capitalism, an economic system that doesn't even exist in practice.


Second, you claim that failed centrally planned economies would be better off if they were even further centrally planned.

Finally, you advocate fascism as a "fix" for it all. Do you honestly believe what you say?

Ever heard the truism that it isn't so much what a man doesn't know that causes him so many problems, but what he knows that ain't so?



Blah blah. what are you? A free Market capitalist? A Capitalist purest? We have capitalism. Deal with it. State Capitalism is capitalism. crony capitalism is capitalism,corporatism is capitalism. Im sick of you capitalists defending capitalism by claiming capitalism isnt capitalism.

National Socialism is not about bigger government. It will be more simple and have less regulations.

National Socialism is not fascism but at least a dictator gets things done. What does US Congress do? what does the Super commitee do?



posted on May, 23 2012 @ 09:07 AM
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Australia to be more specific Queensland will be the launch of the New World Order.



posted on May, 23 2012 @ 09:09 AM
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Well if history is good for one thing is to prove what happen when crocks in the banking system takes over the nations government, we have been like that in the US for decades since the origination of the Federal reserve that one of the biggest payers is JP Morgan for over 200 years.

Now you see what happen when a corporate dictatorship running a nation can do when they take hold of the population hard earning wages, taxation without representation so the crocks can pay themselves back in bad times for the scam and loses, aka bailouts.

Australia should be up in arms and taking down the whores in the government that have sold their souls to the banking system before it turns into another American baking system run government.

Trust me is not going to end good, backing debt with tax payer money is proving in the US to be a fiasco, because is always corrupted entities that will not stop at anything until they drain the nation from their resources.



posted on May, 23 2012 @ 09:14 AM
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A question for everyone in this thread :-

Looking at history, Hitler got lots of support and eventually into power when Germany was in a depression.

So is there a chance that a socialist government getting into power now that capitalism is on its last legs ?

btw, I didn't like how hitlers ideas turned out, I am just asking if this is a ripe time for socialism / Nazism to become more popular.



posted on May, 23 2012 @ 09:29 AM
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Originally posted by marg6043
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Well if history is good for one thing is to prove what happen when crocks in the banking system takes over the nations government, we have been like that in the US for decades since the origination of the Federal reserve that one of the biggest payers is JP Morgan for over 200 years.

Now you see what happen when a corporate dictatorship running a nation can do when they take hold of the population hard earning wages, taxation without representation so the crocks can pay themselves back in bad times for the scam and loses, aka bailouts.

Australia should be up in arms and taking down the whores in the government that have sold their souls to the banking system before it turns into another American baking system run government.

Trust me is not going to end good, backing debt with tax payer money is proving in the US to be a fiasco, because is always corrupted entities that will not stop at anything until they drain the nation from their resources.





Yeah,its a ticking time bomb.

The other big problem Australia has is the ponzi scheme of a housing market. The GFC didnt hit us that bad last time. Our over priced houses will fall in the next GFc. That will bring down the Banks. That will bring down the tax payer. Its by design and I cant honestly believe that the politicians dont see it. Why take such risk? They keep interest rates down but they should be easing them up and putting downward pressure on housing so that the economy can right itself in a somewhat orderly fashion.

im pretty worried about it. I see China as our only hope going forward.



posted on May, 23 2012 @ 09:33 AM
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Originally posted by diddy1234
A question for everyone in this thread :-

Looking at history, Hitler got lots of support and eventually into power when Germany was in a depression.

So is there a chance that a socialist government getting into power now that capitalism is on its last legs ?

btw, I didn't like how hitlers ideas turned out, I am just asking if this is a ripe time for socialism / Nazism to become more popular.


If you look at Greece and the recent surge in support for the Golden dawn I say yes.

And politicians are hated around the globe. The term 'career politician' is as derogatory as it gets. Major Parties are losing the traditional support that they have enjoyed for so long. I do think its ripe for politicall change. Radical political change.

People need to become desperate and loss faith in government. its happening.



posted on May, 23 2012 @ 09:38 AM
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Originally posted by omega man
Australia to be more specific Queensland will be the launch of the New World Order.


If I was going to try to fool Australians I would start with Queenslanders for sure
Just kidding.

Damn canetoads



posted on May, 23 2012 @ 09:39 AM
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Your thread title got me to click. Your first post was good and definitely shores up some progressions and lays out the timeline and lends to the speculation of the outcome. But, and this is a big BUT!!! your post where you more or less rip the USA gets me peaved to no end.



America offers nothing. We need to cut ties. All our alliance with America does is make us a target in this region and it risks our economy. We should form an official alliance with the BRICS


Listen Pal....Trace your countries success to this point, or at least the economic advantage it has now and I think you will see alot of it has to do with the ANZUS treaty as well as the Australian-USA FTA agreement! Not to mention that your country was one of the recipients of the GM Bailout!

I don't deny what you lay out for us....I accept it and agree it just hurts a little when instead of trying to band together and fix our problem, you want to kick us to the curb and forget who helped you in the past. Thats alot like Italy, always switching sides to whoever's winning!



posted on May, 23 2012 @ 09:54 AM
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Originally posted by Zippidee
reply to post by Germanicus
 

Your thread title got me to click. Your first post was good and definitely shores up some progressions and lays out the timeline and lends to the speculation of the outcome. But, and this is a big BUT!!! your post where you more or less rip the USA gets me peaved to no end.



America offers nothing. We need to cut ties. All our alliance with America does is make us a target in this region and it risks our economy. We should form an official alliance with the BRICS


Listen Pal....Trace your countries success to this point, or at least the economic advantage it has now and I think you will see alot of it has to do with the ANZUS treaty as well as the Australian-USA FTA agreement! Not to mention that your country was one of the recipients of the GM Bailout!

I don't deny what you lay out for us....I accept it and agree it just hurts a little when instead of trying to band together and fix our problem, you want to kick us to the curb and forget who helped you in the past. Thats alot like Italy, always switching sides to whoever's winning!



well,Im not saying we shouldnt be friends. Just dont call us,we will call you


Im just worried is all. I cant see how America will fix things. I also dont like the American brand of Imperialism. It may have been good for us in the west but we were not great to the 'developing countries'. I wonder how they will treat us when the tables are turned.

If you have ever read King Rat, america is King Rat. A bully with no real friends. america was never a good fella. Other nations will remember that. Even if they were the ones on your good side. the book King Rat is about being a good fella. And how that is the most important thing.

I think we should just be friends.
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posted on May, 23 2012 @ 10:02 AM
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Oh I'd say three to five centuries, tops. No country has lasted more than a thousand years, at least to my knowledge.

The thing is, I've heard this hyperbole since I was born. I remember my parents going on about how America has a few years left because of the economic changes that lie ahead. So on and so forth.

So I never listen to hyperbole any more. Words like Downfall of America are simply trolling to inflame people.



posted on May, 23 2012 @ 10:03 AM
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I respect your point of view but do you think, given China's human rights track record, that siding with them os going to earn you "Good Fella" status?

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posted on May, 23 2012 @ 10:13 AM
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Originally posted by EvilSadamClone
Oh I'd say three to five centuries, tops. No country has lasted more than a thousand years, at least to my knowledge.

The thing is, I've heard this hyperbole since I was born. I remember my parents going on about how America has a few years left because of the economic changes that lie ahead. So on and so forth.

So I never listen to hyperbole any more. Words like Downfall of America are simply trolling to inflame people.



I think its closer to reality than you think. The United stetes would not have suffered a humiliating Credit Downgrade if things were going well. The Reserve Currency is the key. Nations are already turning away from America.

The BRICS are the power. They have many friends in Africa and south America. These nations are the future. I think we should all accept it and deal with it in an oderly fashion instead of allowing it to blow up in our faces. Like australia shouls form an official alliance with the BRICS now instead of later when it may be too late.



posted on May, 23 2012 @ 10:16 AM
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Sorry, I don't. Everytime there is ANY fluctuation in the markets they always cry doom and gloom or worse case scenario, trying to frighten the kids and anybody else who is gullible enough to believe it.

This is just a bunch of nonsense and probably wishful thinking from the political enemies of America. America will be around long after we're dead.



posted on May, 23 2012 @ 10:17 AM
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Originally posted by Zippidee
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I respect your point of view but do you think, given China's human rights track record, that siding with them os going to earn you "Good Fella" status?

edit on 23-5-2012 by Zippidee because: (no reason given)


I know what you mean. They have had to make do with what they have had to get where they are against the odds though. i know they are not perfect but their foriegnj policy looks better to me than Americas.

I would like to see Australia ask the US Government to remove its troops and for our Government to assure both sides that we are neutral and will take no part in any future conflict between our two great friends. we should be friends of both. Marines on our soil hurt our friendship with China.






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