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Is an unseen planet skirting edge of our solar system?

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posted on May, 23 2012 @ 03:52 PM
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My theory has been that New Horizons (on it's way to Pluto) would be the most likely satellite to find any such body floating that far out. In fact, I'd go as far to ask who cares about Pluto when you have a machine with advanced and pretty recent technology onboard to provide a closeup in that part of neighborhood.

Wake up New Horizons!




posted on May, 23 2012 @ 04:08 PM
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I agree with eriktheawful about your videos.

Originally posted by eriktheawful
They don't even know what year they are living in. They claim to have taken a picture in December 2012
I know! What the...?

From the first video @1:30 (sorry, it was all caps)

HERE IS A PICTURE WE TOOK 6,452 FEET ABOVE SEA LEVEL ON DEC 16TH 2012

The video then goes on to show a picture...but from Dec 16th 2012? This proves to me that the video is junk (HOAX) or at least the maker of this video is incompetent.

@3:20 in the video

At the NASA press conference the team from WISE, took a question about Planet X/Nibiru.
They could not rule out a substantial body in the outer solar system moving in a roughly circular orbit.
Notice the contradiction here? For one "Planet X/Nibiru" are two completely different things as I have stated before.
The other issue I have is in NASA's reply, "They could not rule out a substantial body in the outer solar system moving in a roughly circular orbit."
This describes a 'Planet X' type body, i.e. roughly circular orbit, not Nibiru which would be a highly eccentric orbit.



posted on May, 23 2012 @ 04:14 PM
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This has been talked about since the 80's when I was in grade school. I'm ready to see it already!
Maybe Pluto itself is Planet X?!



posted on May, 23 2012 @ 04:35 PM
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He's suggesting there may be another planet; his models and calculations support it yet nothing is anywhere near confirmation until they can pair those calculations with real, observable phenomena.

As to whether this planet on the other side of Pluto will contain life...seems like a no-brainer: no. If anything, remnants of microbial organisms. Nothing we'd easily recognize.

This world will end, but not by means that often accompany Planet X/Niburu discussion.



posted on May, 23 2012 @ 04:41 PM
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Originally posted by Elepheagle


As to whether this planet on the other side of Pluto will contain life...seems like a no-brainer:



Well ...you're a clear example (and what happens) when we apply a Human brain to calculate Universal odds and misunderstood probabilities!


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posted on May, 23 2012 @ 04:42 PM
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Heh, not sure what other type of brain you would like me to use. I'm just referencing my basic knowledge of what we know, what we speculate on, and what we might hope to find.

Sorry to disappoint.



posted on May, 23 2012 @ 04:44 PM
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Originally posted by Elepheagle
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Heh, not sure what other type of brain you would like me to use. I'm just referencing my basic knowledge of what we know, what we speculate on, and what we might hope to find.

Sorry to disappoint.


I can't fault you and I apologize.

But there is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much more.
Really.



posted on May, 23 2012 @ 04:45 PM
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Yeah, I don't get why this is suddenly a story. There's 70k objects in the Kuiper Belt and there's been evidence of this Neptune sized planet for a long time (mostly some disturbances of orbits that are predicting an object in a certain distance and position).



posted on May, 23 2012 @ 05:12 PM
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Hey Human, I'll be right back.


Pant pant, trying to catch my breath,

Nope aint nuttin out there. Pluto is having a hissy over being down graded but other than that.

Voyager would have picked up another body out there by now dont you think? Its way past Neptune now.



posted on May, 23 2012 @ 05:14 PM
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Originally posted by Jadette
Yeah, I don't get why this is suddenly a story. There's 70k objects in the Kuiper Belt ...



Its only a story because Nibiru nutters dont care about facts.

Real astronomers have no problem in suggesting the possibility of a large object out there in the Kuiper belt. As you say, its a large place and mostly poorly searched. The topic comes up quite a lot.
But as soon as an astronomer mentions such a large object, the Nibiru nutter seize on this as EVIDENCE and start pronouncing DISCLOSURE.

This thread is a prime example. Rodney Gomes makes a computer model suggesting the possibility of a large Kuiper belt object, and Nibiru nutters grab it eagerly. The first page of this thread alone has multiple references to Nibiru and Sitchin, mentions of earth collision and the end of days.



posted on May, 23 2012 @ 05:23 PM
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Originally posted by alfa1
Its only a story because Nibiru nutters dont care about facts.



Allow me to rephrase this and put it in its proper context.

It's only a nutty story because no one wants to face the FACTS that Nibiru is real.


THAT'S more like it!
(exhale)
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posted on May, 23 2012 @ 05:24 PM
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First of all, people like Liederman, and Hazelwood are nothing more than charlatans who were using some of the real information we had about this object back then, and they were making up their own theories which were a lie sorry to say.

I was one of the members in AOL of a group in which we were discussing whether or not these objects could be moving towards the inner Solar System, in that group Hazelwood himself posted and claimed that it would arrive close to earth in 2003, we were discussing this as far back as 1999-2001 or so, and everytime we would ask Hazelwood to present proof that it was arriving in this time frame he would call us all "CIA agents' "disinfo agents" etc, etc.

Same thing has been happening with Liederman, she has been using a subject which is real only to grab attention, and make money off the unsuspecting people.

IMO the real disinformation agents have been people like Liederman and Hazelwood, because the best way to discredit a real subject is to have charlatans make false claims about that same subject.

Whether Liederman and Hazelwood were doing this on their own, for their own motives, or whether they were set to do this by some government agency I don't know, and we could speculate about it all day but it would only be speculation.

I have been researching this subject for well over two decades, and back in 2004 when I became a member of this forum I presented all the REAL information that was available, and since then some other members and myself have been posting all the new information which has been made available since then.

It does a great disservice to this subject to include the names of charlatans like Liederman and Hazelwood.

As for Sitchin, there aren't a lot of people who can read and translate Sumerian, and who knows whether his translations are the real deal or not. The truth is that there has been enough information for a very long time that let us know that there are at least two objects in the Solar System which the public has not been made aware of.

Notice how the CNN article is talking about a gas giant, or a possible brown dwarf, which would be larger and denser than Jupiter, and the latest information we have is about a planet size object, 4 times bigger than Earth.

There is plenty of information which shows that both objects exist, and I think a lot of people are confusing them thinking that there is only one object.

Some of the threads I started and which include real information about these objects include the following.

Scientific Research on Solar System Brown Dwarf and Planet X.

Search on for Death Star that throws out deadly comets

1987 New Science and Invention Encyclopedia Truth or Hoax?


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posted on May, 23 2012 @ 05:28 PM
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Maybe this is it? Nothing in Google Sky is as large as this thing. I know because I have searched. Nothing even comes close to the size of it. It can only be viewed in Infrared. ~$heopleNation




posted on May, 23 2012 @ 05:29 PM
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Originally posted by karen61057
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Hey Human, I'll be right back.


Pant pant, trying to catch my breath,

Nope aint nuttin out there. Pluto is having a hissy over being down graded but other than that.

Voyager would have picked up another body out there by now dont you think? Its way past Neptune now.



You..... who merely mocks, posts and runs is hardly a gauge of accuracy. I've seen your work.

Tease and mock if you must. All I have to say is...you'll see.

I don't like coming off as if I'm on some sort of high and almighty pedestal than others but it's obvious I do know more than you.

And with your negative prowess and matching demeanor on ATS....I have no energy even spending another moment of my precious time with you.



posted on May, 23 2012 @ 05:36 PM
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A lot of people do a disservice towards the cause.

Don' like Hazelwood or the others? Don't listen to them then.


I personally can't stand half the people who talk about things I believe in.
And...so what? They aren't the lone spokes-person for the cause.


If you don't like the people then, don't listen. It doesn't absolve or distract from the message.


Nibiru is real. That's all I have to say. I don't care if they use Charles Manson as its mascot. Doesn't take away from the reality as much as it's not the most pleasant bridge.



posted on May, 23 2012 @ 05:41 PM
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the cgi pic looks kinda similar to the pic thats was released a while back that was supposedly a dark planet then nasa said it was a black hole,then the pic mysteriously dissapeared from the nasa website........curiouser and curiouser
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posted on May, 23 2012 @ 05:47 PM
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Originally posted by karen61057
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Voyager would have picked up another body out there by now dont you think? Its way past Neptune now.


Maybe so, maybe not. Let's wait and see what the VIM (Voyager Interstellar Mission) finds after it reaches behind Pluto and explores the outermost edge of the Sun's domain, and beyond. Nobody knows what the hell is out there. ~$heopleNation



posted on May, 23 2012 @ 05:52 PM
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Originally posted by Human_Alien
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If you don't like the people then, don't listen. It doesn't absolve or distract from the message.


Yes it does when you are saying that this is "exactly what they have been talking about". It isn't what they have been talking about. Hazelwood claimed Planet x would pass close to Earth in 2003, and Liederman made similar comments, both which weren't true.

If you want this message to be known by as many people as possible, as I do, then you wouldn't be making these statements that Hazelwood and Liederman were talking about this same thing, because they weren't.

What you have said about Lieberman and Hazelwwod about their claims on planet X would be the same as having cult members make an intelligent speech about Theology. It is simply not possible.

A lot of people are not going to want to listen about anything to do with Planet X or the brown dwarf when the names Liederman and Hazelwood are added to the discussion of the subject.



posted on May, 23 2012 @ 05:54 PM
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Re: "voyager finding it"

Go back to page 2 of this thread and take a read of my long post (it has pictures! hehehehe).

I wouldn't put all your bets on Voyager 1 or 2. Why is it that people seem to think that if there is something out there past Neptune and Pluto that Voyagers would find it? Our solar system is NOT a long hallway with one direction to get out.



IF another body that is very big ( Mars size and up) out there, it could just as easily lay in the opposite direction than either Voyagers are heading!

And don't count on Pioneer 10 or 11. Coms were lost with both of those probes since 2003 and before.

But go check out my earlier post. I show how large the direction is for trying to find another planet.



posted on May, 23 2012 @ 06:09 PM
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If the media are talking about this (again) then I guess it is interesting, but is there actually anything else apart from a Planet lurking at the outer edge of the solar system or do we just keeping repeating 30 year old information? The report may be new but the information is nothing new. Same old sh!t. Sorry, but I am waiting for the mind blowing news as well.



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