Thank God It is Up to the Faithful to Build an Electric Fence and Kill Gay People - video included

reply to post by Annee


Telling your children their going to hell for not believing the most recent interpretation of biblical cannon is child abuse.

I can only hope it didnt hurt them to much to live with such an idiotic moron as a parent.

Originally posted by ColoradoJens
reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus

 

I understand your point. And to that I will say this: Who can actually claim to know what GOD said? No one. That is why it is all fake. It is made up. The reality is a majority of christians believe to be a homosexual is immoral and wrong. That, sadly, is a fact.

CJ

Of course you must be right. It is all just fake made up stuff, and so must be the Hindu Rig Vedas and Puranas too, all that stuff about God must all just be made up by people with big imaginations. Or did you just finish a study of Zeitgeist, because that is one of the biggest religion-basher stories I ever heard of.
But whatever, it is far more convenient to just ridicule than to look more deeply into theology. Anything more I say is wasted energy, and I recognize that.
But please, continue on and focus your time on Lady Gaga instead, or whatever other spectre of media attention is current. I'm sure it will be a worthwhile expenditure of energy for you.

Originally posted by MrXYZ
Christian fundamentalists, Muslim fundamentalists, and fundamentalists in general are the planet's village idiots. Assuming the literal interpretation of a text from hundreds/thousands of years ago is 100% correct is moronic, especially given the compared to today limited knowledge the authors had.

It's time the sane rest of us does the only right thing...laugh at them, and pity their retarded ignorance!

You forgot one. Atheist fundies. Secular humanism is a belief system, yes it is! Entirely made up by humans. But it is only recently added to the list of religious interpretations of life on earth. It is based on dialectical materialism. It is farily simplistic in it's notion.

Dialectical Materialism is also about change. Dialectical Materialism begins with the notion that everything in the Universe is ultimately material and this material substance is always in motion and constantly changing

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reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus


Yes indeed all religious books were written by men. Frankly, their imaginations weren't really that big. I don't discount there may be something universally known as God, but the "books" were not written by GOD. God wouldn't write such absurd things, imo. Who are you to say they are somehow divine and not the work of frauds or better put, simple men? Because you were told so? I am unfamiliar with Zeitgeist but I have heard of Lady Gaga. Can't say I have ever heard one of its songs though. Thanks for whatever that reference was.

I don't expect you to like what I say and you most certainly can believe what you want. Just don't tell me it is TRUTH. I can prove they were written by men and well, men have been known to make up a lot of things, including they are messengers from God. Thousands of good, well intentioned people get had every day. By the way, are you interested in buying a relic? I have a piece of the actual cross Jesus was crucified on. $4.50 for a sliver or $30 bucks for the whole cross. Are you also of the belief that the Old Testament is now somehow not written by GOD? I love that one. And which bible is it you believe? Of course you know there are many - how is it you know which one is the right one? So many bibles out there...and as for all other religious "books" same goes. Written by HUMANS - none of whom spoke with God, only their publisher during re-writes. Does the fact I studied with the Jesuits for seven years make me any more knowledgable than you? No. It just means I wasted seven years of my life listening to baloney.

CJ

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Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
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But whatever, it is far more convenient to just ridicule than to look more deeply into theology. Anything more I say is wasted energy, and I recognize that.

It is because of looking more deeply into theology - - that I accepted I am Atheist.

Many who search for the truth in religion - - do find the truth. Its all fabrication. Myth built on myth built on myth - - that was built on some real incident at some time.

Originally posted by KaiserSoze

Originally posted by Amadeo
reply to post by GrandHeretic

 

There is NO sexual choice. You are what you are, be it gay, straight or bisexual. You don't decide one day to turn gay from straight or vice versa so please stop pushing that ridiculous notion because you know as well as I do that it is simply false.

Great, now that we have that behind us we can start looking for a cure.

How about you start looking for a cure for your ignorance instead?

Well funny thing the PLCE (police academy twerps) as well as the local surrounding area cops will be at the protest in riot gear! Like this small ass back wood sh hole really needs that. I think they will make the news again now!

reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus
The Catholic Church must be the biggest corporation in the United States. they have a branch office in every neighborhood. Our assets and real estate holdings must exceed those of Standard Oil, A.T.&T., and U.S. Steel combined. And our roster of dues-paying members must be second only to the tax rolls of the United States Government.'

The Catholic church, once all her assets have been put together, is the most formidable stockbroker in the world. The Wall Street Journal said that the Vatican's financial deals in the U.S. alone were so big that very often it sold or bought gold in lots of a million or more dollars at one time.

The Vatican's treasure of solid gold has been estimated by the United Nations World Magazine to amount to several billion dollars. A large bulk of this is stored in gold ingots with the U.S. Federal Reserve Bank, while banks in England and Switzerland hold the rest. But this is just a small portion of the wealth of the Vatican, which in the U.S. alone, is greater than that of the five wealthiest giant corporations of the country. When to that is added all the real estate, property, stocks and shares abroad, then the staggering accumulation of the wealth of the Catholic church becomes so formidable as to defy any rational assessment".

The Catholic church is the biggest financial power, wealth accumulator and property owner in existence. She is a greater possessor of material riches than any other single institution, corporation, bank, giant trust, government or state of the whole globe. The pope, as the visible ruler of this immense amassment of wealth, is consequently the richest individual of the twentieth century.

P.S Vatican empty your pockets! your pope cannot store your riches in heaven ....
what does a profitable man gain if he loses his soul....................nothing.
Also this is not to bash "ALL CHRISTIANS"..

reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus


You're making your own child a captive spectacle of the crap that you're spewing in here.

How is that different?

Originally posted by Annee

Thank you.

I know there are good people who are Christian. But - until they start showing themselves en masse publicly in the media - - protesting against these anti-gay Christian leaders - - - they're just as bad as they are.

The "Silent Voice" - - is no voice at all. These anti-gay Christian leaders are your voice.

I'm a Christian and I'm purdy good ...and not anti-gay either!
Of course I'm not part of the "religous right", that makes all the difference

Originally posted by KaiserSoze

Originally posted by Amadeo
reply to post by GrandHeretic

 

There is NO sexual choice. You are what you are, be it gay, straight or bisexual. You don't decide one day to turn gay from straight or vice versa so please stop pushing that ridiculous notion because you know as well as I do that it is simply false.

Great, now that we have that behind us we can start looking for a cure.

A cure for being straight?
Now you know good and well that sexuality isn't a choice or an illness, don't be hatin on all of us. Straight folks can be good people too ya know

reply to post by MattiasDesigns

And there's just as many congregations out there that fall somewhere in between. I can remember having to have a long discussions with another of the more conservatives (as I am), that even looking from the point of it being a sin, that Christian response in the "it's a sin" group 1. goes further than what scripture allows for, 2. is an excuse to be hateful. To the point where this poor guy, while still believing it's a sin, started berating the side he was a part of pushing. lol

reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus

Even with giving all for the poor (which I can kind of live with), is not the same thing as going into debt to spend on people who won't help themselves (mild), or even taking this money for the poor, and diverting it into some other monster's back pocket(extreme). Which is what happens right now. We're not talking about helping, we're talking about throwing money and hoping some of it sticks.

reply to post by denver22

For all their bureaucracy and how much money they may or may not have, the Catholics actually are still doing charity organizations in almost every town they have property in, which cannot be said for all the individual groups.

Frankly, even going back to the OT tithing system, people tend to forget that this was for throwing a celebratory party for you, your own, the religious leaders you have responsibility to, and the poor. Could not this tithe be used to feed the poor until they died? Sure, but it wasn't for this. Sometimes it isn't about throwing all you have at charity. Although that is no excuse for not taking care of those in need.

reply to post by PurpleChiten

I'm pretty well in the direction or even further than the RR, and I can't put up with most of the RR bs on this subject. There's not even 1 direction on this out there.

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He who walks righteously and speaks what is right, who rejects gain from extortion and keeps his hand from accepting bribes, who stops his ears against plots of murder and shuts his eyes against contemplating evil-- this is the man who will dwell on the heights, whose refuge will be the mountain fortress. His bread will be supplied, and water will not fail him. (NIV, Isaiah 33:15-16)



Stephen VII(Pope from 896 - 897)

Stephen's sworn enemy was his predecessor to the Fisherman's Ring, Formosus. Whatever Formosus had done to so enrage his successor isn't completely clear, but dear Pope Stephen had his dead body dug up and put on trial for "coveting the papal throne." Being found guilty (of course), the deceased was stripped, had its 3 fingers, used for bestowing blessings, cut off, and the body dumped in the Tiber River. Stephen got his, though. He was later imprisoned and strangled to death.

Urban II(Pope from 1088 - 1099)

At the time of his papacy, many Catholic priests were married (even though they weren't supposed to be). Urban was so outraged that he made a decree that all priests who were married or found to not be celibate be imprisoned forever (for the good of their eternal souls). That wasn't enough to satisfy Urban though. After imprisoning the defrocked clergymen he had their wives and children sold in to slavery! I guess he needed to find a way to finance all of those prisons holding the lustful priests to save their poor, sinful, souls. Fortunately he wasn't too busy with horny priests to ignore politics, though. Pope Urban II also took the time to start the First Crusade in 1095.

Gregory IX(Pope from 1227 - 1241)

This guy apparently loved bonfires. He started the inquisition of heretics (anyone not a strict and observant Catholic who could prove it) in 1231.

Sixtus IV(Pope from 1471 - 1484)

Sixtus didn't waste any time taking advantage of his new position. I'll bet the word "nepotism" was invented just for him. Before the white smoke even had time to clear he made two of his nephews Cardinals and spent the rest of his reign throwing money and titles at pretty much everyone else he happened to be related to. To finance his whale status he brilliantly sold licenses for brothels in Rome, instituted a tax on priests who kept mistresses, and came up with the best scam ever in history - selling indulgences for the dead to their grieving loved ones.

Innocent VIII(Pope from 1484 - 1492)

Kind of cool, in a way. Innocent VIII was the first pope ever to openly acknowledge his mistress and illegitimate children. He spent his days building a dynasty by marrying his kiddos off to wealthy families and using the throne of St. Peter to bestow upon them money, titles, and land. Family man that he was, he even made his 13-year-old grandson a cardinal. His papal bull Summis desiderantes of 1484 allowed him to indulge his pyromaniac and torture fantasies by starting the Inquisition against witches.


Alexander VI(Pope from 1492 - 1503)

The infamous Mr. Borgia was possibly the most wicked and corrupt pope in history. Or maybe he was just misunderstood. He was trained in the ways of the family business from a young age. His uncle Alfonso (Pope Calixtus III) bestowed powerful church positions upon him while he was still in his teens and then a cardinal at 25. Building upon his cardinalship he worked his way up to the office of vice chancellor of the Roman Church and amassing a great personal fortune in the process. He bribed his way to St. Peter's - appointing anyone he could get in his pocket to cardinal to vote for him. Continuing on the family tradition, he also appointed his son and the teenage brother of his mistress as cardinals (strength in numbers you know). While enjoying the office of pope he also enjoyed an active sex life, was suspected of arranging murders of his rivals and indulging in orgies (hey, when in Rome...) and managed to father seven children. Being a model father of the times, his poor daughter, Lucrezia, got married off three times to help build alliances and when one of those marriage alliances went sour (to a guy she really liked), the pope/daddy/evil father-in-law had him stabbed to death.

Popes you gotta love them..

Protest Against Homophobic N.C. Pastor Will Go On
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They almost did not allow this to happen. Read for yourself.

Catawba County officials initially denied organizers’ request to hold the protest Sunday on the grounds of a county building in Newton, citing an ordinance requiring 14 days’ advance notice, among other things, the Hickory Daily Record reports. After organizers sought help from the American Civil Liberties Union, the county reversed its position and county attorney Debra Bechtel issued a statement saying concerns had been raised about the constitutionality of the ordinance. Staffers will be working on a revised ordinance that assures First Amendment rights are upheld, she added.

When you call for the deaths of other people, you will get a reaction, plain and simple human nature. Westbro Baptist church is on the same level as these Providence Road Baptist Church

Originally posted by zysin5

When you call for the deaths of other people, you will get a reaction, plain and simple human nature. Westbro Baptist church is on the same level as these Providence Road Baptist Church

Glad I'm not a Baptist, I'd be PISSED!!! ...at them for using the name (edited to add that)

Originally posted by PurpleChiten

Originally posted by zysin5

When you call for the deaths of other people, you will get a reaction, plain and simple human nature. Westbro Baptist church is on the same level as these Providence Road Baptist Church

Glad I'm not a Baptist, I'd be PISSED!!! ...at them for using the name

Did you know Fundamental Baptists are descended from the Puritans?

Just an FYI.

Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by PurpleChiten

Originally posted by zysin5

When you call for the deaths of other people, you will get a reaction, plain and simple human nature. Westbro Baptist church is on the same level as these Providence Road Baptist Church

Glad I'm not a Baptist, I'd be PISSED!!! ...at them for using the name

Did you know Fundamental Baptists are descended from the Puritans?

Just an FYI.

Didn't realize that... interesting

reply to post by XxNightAngelusxX
The same as judging atheists by nutjob atheists... I think it would be an easier pill to swallow if everyone got a grip on the concept that crazy comes in every flavor, and that there's likely to be more than a 10-1 ratio of sane vs. insane, on any subject.

reply to post by denver22


That's all very nice, but what happens when all that stuff is finally redistributed among all the world's poor, then what? I thought you were making a case for socialism? Do you feel the Catholic church is responsible for redistributing out wealth? Do you feel that it should be taxed?