It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.
Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.
Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.
Originally posted by DrBones666
Ok, so no offense intended to the miriad of replies and people for whom this is a hot button topic but; since when did right wing catholic fundamentalists ever vote for a left wing black man anyway? In todays world, and with his particular progressive voter base (including those who are just sick of meaningless social division) a few less ring kissers won't have any effect whatsoever. The very people that this set of fundies have alienated will vote left regardless.
Catholics, too, moved noticeably in a Democratic direction in 2008; overall, Catholics supported Obama over McCain by a nine-point margin (54% vs. 45%).
Originally posted by SaturnFX
Oh Hi religious organization
I see you want to become a political organization now...ok, cool.
lets just remove that pesky tax exempt status that religious organizations enjoy.
What do you personally think about the vatican deciding how the US should run?
Originally posted by KnawLick
reply to post by Flatfish
You added nothing to the discussion but anger and cliches... I get it your a super atheist and the church is bad blah blah blah.
I'm not catholic, personally I think the people responsible for covering up or molesting children should meet their maker. But they were sins of humans and have no bearing what so ever on the message of Jesus (which is what the catholic church is suppose to be about). Did you say all of congress is evil and pedophiles because what Mark Foley did? No because it's a dumb argument.
And if you don't think evil is a very big part of human nature your blind, naive and idealistic at best. Look at our overcrowded prisons for inspiration... Oh yea and hitler, Mao, Stalin, etc. just misunderstood guys?!
Originally posted by Bleeeeep
reply to post by buster2010
So in other words, in regards to tyranny, what's good for the gander is good for the goose? I hope that you remember your comment the day they come after your ethical belief system.
The law against churches intervening in political campaigns was passed by the US Congress in 1954. Since then, the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) has been successful in using the law to revoke the tax-exempt status of only one church: the Church at Pierce Creek in Binghamton, NY, which had placed an advertisement in USA Today and the Washington Times rebuking Bill Clinton four days before the 1992 presidential election.
Originally posted by Blaine91555
reply to post by burntheships
This goes way deeper than the Catholic Church. The true intent by Obama is clearly to start the process of removing the separation of Church and State, along with freedom of thought and belief. Even those who are not Christian or Catholic should be angry about what Obama is attempting. Something important to you may be next on the radical progressives list.
It's all part of the divide and conquer strategy. Sadly this method works on those not alert to what is being done to them or how they are being used. This has nothing at all to do with Women and their rights, it's an attempt to remove freedoms one at a time "for our own good" by people who would control us all.
People ignore this at their own peril. Even the Atheists should be against this form of control coming from the Alinsky / Marxist crowd.