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posted on May, 22 2012 @ 01:12 AM
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The truth has but only a single dimension. As it transitions through time it follows a
singular, linear path.

The illuminati is a secret cult of elites whom are zionist to the core. They are an ancient cult dating back to pre-roman times, perhaps originating from sumaria or even further in the distant past.

By zionist, I am not attacking the jewish religion. I am targeting the animal farm style belief that any group of people on this earth are like the pigs in that they are more equal than all others (god's chosen people), and that all else are chattel.

This attitude is that of the illuminati whom suffer from megalomania due to the fact that their bloodlines have made a science of using religion (and things beyond religion) to exploit others. They mastered the use of religion long ago, I would like my readers to take note of how christianity in the past acquired pagan holidays such as "christmas" (saturnas) and countless others:
www.nvcc.edu...

This move on part of the illuminati was quite brilliant in that it made a class of people who would unwittingly play into the hands of satan, and his chosen people (because that is their god).

Now fast forward into the future and you will find a new emerging religion, often labelled as a "new ager" belief system. This indeed is the final move similar to what was done in rome to sop up bhuddism and other religions into a single super-religion. This new-ager religion is a hodge podge just like christianity has been made into today!

One has to understand that the chess board does not exist for most people they have been trained to tune it out. Those within the truther movement have discovered the game but have not taken notice of the pieces nor their movements on the board.

The illuminati are masters of deception (a similar description for lucifer) and wield religion extremely well.
Now many of you may recall that back in november there was the discovery of the following information:
A mysterious link to lucis trust (which I discounted at the time) was suggested.
The things I really noticed were that the domain 15october.net was registered by paulina arcos of the united nations.
Here's a few videos describing the issue, since then the domain took down their notice of misunderstanding (because they are sneaky, deceptive bastards) and that is because their lie was not really all that believable in the first place (regarding some cosmic mishap of her being a united nations representative of ecuador, her husband carlos carrion-mena (anyone know what carrion is? LOL), which supposedly after using a united nations credit card (because the address is the address for the UN, a personal credit card would have paulina's personal home address if that were the case). Supposedly it was for her son, Santiago carrion, whom is connected to wikileaks via wlcentral, and a writer for roar magazine which bears quite the resemblance to adbusters (which made the call for occupy). Apparently santiago was involved with the rollout of occupy before the rest of us even knew we were getting one, though rumours of an arab spring clone at the time were abound.







I've since then changed my mind. Through my research I see a viral marketing campaign spanning 1000's of NGO's all connected to the tides foundation. Organizations such as sierra club, transition town, non-violent communication, raincoast, dogwood initiative, wildcoast, no one is illegal, la raza, hands across the sand, etc, are all connected and are converging within occupy.

There is an almost identical system used in these groups you will find consensus, facilitation, meeting minutes and working groups.

It is important to understand that this is only a single cluster of this satanic network. Regardless if god or satan exists, these people believe they do and that they are a "chosen people". They will bring about this biblical apocalypse and they will exploit followers of the bible who are mislead into thinking dying is ok because there are second chances in heaven (maybe, maybe not, I'd rather make the most out of this existence however because I do not feel it is god's intent to have satan torture us all with the destruction of our world).

Satan is a masterful manipulator as this entity (the collective will of this god's sick believers). Her majesty is at the head of this beast, always has been the rotten royals behind this sort of stuff, they got their positions of power by raping, pillaging and stealing, and entered capitalism with their illgotten gains intact. The royals are head of the council of 300 and direct their 3 main tentacles to attack us spiritually in vatican city, miltaristically from washington DC, and economically from london behind a veil (as right now you think it is america doing the economic attack). Their jobs are essentially to strip us of any ability to fight back.

Organizations such as transition town are here to deal with some loose ends and it should come as no surprise they are heavily embedded within occupy.

What I discovered within my own occupy is that not only is it infiltrated with shills, but they formed the rotten core of the occupy movement in my city and attempted to hijack we are change victoria from handling the revolution. These shills appointed themselves leaders and refuse to hold any elections as they must retain control. They are entirely complicit in the promotion of shill agenda and at first noticing what they were up to sapped the hope I had that we the people could ever liberate ourselves from this trap.

The elites have been working tirelessly to position themselves into a multi-faceted attack on the individual. From beyond the 3 city states they have a world government almost entirely setup (THE UN) and are hard at work trying to get us to agree to their solution of new world order.

There is that shill, the pope, whom called for global currency -- in what is seemingly entirely ignorant to the stories told about jesus and the money changers. A global currency would totally play into their hands.

Now for some references before I proceed:
Here you can find my research on the shills in occupy victoria

Next up, transition town is explicitly designed to nullify the viability of local currency.
Traditionally when the elites nerfed the economy, local currencies based on precious metals would kick in and provide a means to get organized and resist pending tyranny. The elites have positioned their shills to nullify the currency by ensuring that none are based on precious metals (look what happened to the liberty dollar and check out what didn't happen to the tampa bay local currency those shills setup).
Here is my research on that subject:
transition town currency coup d'etat

Now back to the original issue regarding lucis trust involvement in occupy. I stumbled across a blog that re-affirms this connection:
Lucis trust behind occupy
This video just confirmed everything for me:




posted on May, 22 2012 @ 01:30 AM
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This lady, MARIANNE WILLIAMSON, is connected to you guessed it, the lucis trust.
This presentation wasn't just her grabbing the people's mic, she was a scheduled speaker at an event and selected by the shill facilitators at occupy LA!
It she is a new ager for sure! The following information confirms the link:
Like-minded organizations

That last url is literally a road map of organizations whom are interconnected, pushing this crap on to the people.

We are in deep deep trouble if people do not wake up and realize that there indeed is a conspiracy to do exactly what those georgia guidestones say will happen. These people will make biblical prophesy and those stones come true if awareness of the game is not spread.

The best thing people can do to fend off this attack is to cut the system off. Stop paying taxes, give them no quarter anywhere. Do not allow them to come and fudge your local currency, make sure it is precious metals based.

While you people have your heads in the sand, your governments are going pushing this agenda, they are making smart meters mandatory, and pushing universal id's with RFID's in them.

These people are not here to save you, they are here to kill you and if a billion supported the cause half a billion would still be executed when this is all done and over with. Humanity can stop this but the window of opportunity is closing. They need only keep you busy a little longer and the technology they will have will render them unstoppable. Heed the warnings and stop this evil in it's tracks.

Personally I believe in a god but I think the bible and mass-religion to be a tool of control. I am by no means a religious person but I am thinking now in light of new information and these connections I'd be wise to chat with the religious people in this town and see what they think. Humanity really needs to get up to speed rather quickly or we are doomed.
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posted on May, 22 2012 @ 04:11 AM
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Great thread! I need to check out those vids and the links when I have more time! Thank you! S+F!

I think this thread might be posted in the wrong forum section, it seems like it doesnt get the attention it deserves.
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posted on May, 22 2012 @ 07:57 AM
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I had no idea where to put it but I think this angle proves to be a good deal more receptive to the religious crowd (or at least those inclined to discuss topics such as these).

It's a frustrating battle with these luciferians they like to take a plain white truth and come up with every shade of grey and colour in between (flavour parts of the truth with varying degrees of lies).

From what I've observed their strategy relies on the notion that it only takes a little poison to taint the whole meal. They spin off so many different angles which cloaks the truth within a sea of lies.

They speak in forked tongues and doublespeak, do not believe in freedom of speech and think they can PR manage everything.

Quite literally I am surprised satan (the collective of these knowledge/sun god worshipers) would come up with such a pathetic plan like occupy, however, I am dumbfounded at it's degree of success and to be honest it scares me that humanity might actually lose to something like this. I have to say the very small number of us fighting this in victoria and succeeding at it is a bit of a surprise. On one hand sometimes it feels like I am the only person bothering in my town. Then sometimes my bro's from we are change are there to back me up. They focus way too much on film screenings, personally I think we are beyond the time frame of these being effective. There is a dreadful lack of researchers, and thus, I find I am doing most of my research myself. I've hit huge learning curves in the process, I had quick success at the online presence thing but recently it's been feeling like I've been cast into a digital bubble which is shrinking, slowly, to silence my efforts It seems like it gets worse in chunks every time there's a visually noticeable change to youtube or facebook (of which there have been a lot of since occupy rolled out, in fact big changes and many of them). Either way my IT background cued me into what this free gift of the internet could quickly get twisted into (they call it the "net" for a reason). Even if they make mistakes, no worries it seems they are deeply aware of mass psychology and how to manipulate social thinking to suit their own ends.

There just aren't enough people revealing big enough chunks of the picture. They've taken the mirror of truth and smashed it into a million pieces. People don't have the time of the day (ATS and a fair amount of conspiracy sites excluded from this statement), for anything more than a 2 minute blurb --> with such short attention spans it's impossible to relay to people how to catch the scent and stay on track.

One thing is certain however, they have divided us, across stupid lines.
Freedom feels right but they have excuses and the devils forked tongue with which to talk you into a compromise (which is what it starts with, it certainly doesn't end there as we are seeing in society/government today).
Censorship just feels wrong and so it can be a pretty huge clue as to which groups are full of shills. There is a dilemma here however in that as I recently witnessed either a seriously brain damaged pervert (or a calculating shill, as I believe) whom would post 99% truth but occasionally post disgusting pornographic content such as a self sucking site (yuck). Remember that sprinkle of poison? This sort of behaviour is a good place to draw the line, as this weirdo was obviously sent in to test our limits of non-censorship and to discredit truthers in general with such lewd behaviour.
They hate things such as individualism, voluntary consent, gold and silver based currency. They don't like it when you ask questions about finances, question their integrity or ask that the leaders be voted in (and they feign being democratic an awful lot!). Heck JUST for suggesting people demand a currency format that they can have in their hands as something tangible rather than the junk money transition towns are peddling got me a ban (and I am almost willing to bet you can test the waters at almost any occupy and get banned trying to get any sort of response out of the shills any of these subjects).

that was a video of a prominent occupy vancouver shill (facilitator/leader) discussing how the black block are used in protests and rallies. They preach "non-violent communication" however utilize a violent group of protestors like chess pieces on the board. This in itself is what makes me feel there is something deeply wrong with occupy and that it is dangerous to humanity. It just doesn't feel right.

I am feeling like time is running out. As thought occupy is keeping US ALL occupied. I used to discount all sorts of religious folk but perhaps it is the one place where I can find people whom still have their morals and ethics intact. It is my personal belief that this is a religious war, not a class war.



posted on May, 22 2012 @ 09:48 AM
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Your research is excellent, well done. You did plainly explain the one true ultimate conspiracy of the age of mankinds self rule.

It began as you hinted at long before Rome; It began at Babel when Nimrod, Cush and Semirimes created the first pagan "trinity" and first global empire post flood.

God Bless,



posted on May, 22 2012 @ 11:43 AM
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Okay, so let me get this straight:
You're not attacking Jews just "Zionists". Which you describe as Jews who believe they are God's Chosen people. (Isn't this the whole basis of the religion of Judaism?)

Then these Zionist Jews, God's chosen people, decided to create Christianity. After killing the Christ of course. They threw is some Pagan non Zionist Jew theology with Zionist Jew theology to make people who think everything is God to think they were rather God's Chosen people. They threw together some religious texts with a few helpful edits and called it God's word the Bible, and used it to control the masses along with killing those who still practiced the "God is everything way".

Close to two thousand years later they decided to create a religion which directly contradicted their book of control and preached that we're all gods, all religions are basically the same and everything is God. Thus they are trying to seperate those who believe in the "God's chosen people" vs those who believe "God is Everything" again. At the same time it unites those who believe love is paramount though.

At the same time they decided to combine all the worlds governments through various wars and the such and created the UN to stop the wars they created. Now they're using that UN to bring about the Occupy movement to further unite the nations so they can bring about their plans they wrote on some cryptic monument.

I don't know seems like a lot of circular non sense for no point if the end game is to nuke the world/poison food sources/ pandemic etc. Especially since they supposedly have all those tools @ their disposal right now. What does Satan get out of this? Besides less people on HIS world? I'm confused



posted on May, 22 2012 @ 01:38 PM
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simply replacing "who" with "whom" doesn't make it correct.



posted on May, 22 2012 @ 01:47 PM
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Originally posted by wearewatchingyouman
Okay, so let me get this straight:
You're not attacking Jews just "Zionists". Which you describe as Jews who believe they are God's Chosen people. (Isn't this the whole basis of the religion of Judaism?)

No it isn't, as only roughly 80% support the zionism in isreal (yeah that number is high unfortunately). I'm sure some jews think they are equal to other human beings, plus some christians are zionists as well. I am targeting both. Zionist beliefs are inherently a good deal more racist than being the poor soul who jusy happens to notice how toxic those beliefs are for the rest of humanity. For your reference my fiancee is of jewish decent.


Then these Zionist Jews, God's chosen people, decided to create Christianity. After killing the Christ of course.

Again to be specific *zionists* I so hate to call them jews. Christ was killed because he injected a dangerous idea into society that threatened their currency control. Anybody who threatened this was typically executed. Also of note, where christ had lived his jewish city basically allowed the romans to crucify christ.

They threw is some Pagan non Zionist Jew theology with Zionist Jew theology to make people who think everything is God to think they were rather God's Chosen people. They threw together some religious texts with a few helpful edits and called it God's word the Bible, and used it to control the masses along with killing those who still practiced the "God is everything way".

They threw the truth in your own religious texts in reference to jesus (just once), the illuminati always make sure the truth is out there --> it then becomes your own fault if you do not find it (and thus it is god's will that you remain ignorant to the truth):
JESUS AND SATAN ARE THE MOURNING STAR
So there is slips in that jesus and satan are one and the same. I guess the new weaponized version of "jesus" is because there is a rule to "Thou shalt have no other gods before me".
I noticed the christians worship jesus.
"Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth" --> this is in reference to idolatry. God said to worship god. Not jesus/satan, not mary, not the holy trinity, but god, that is it.


Close to two thousand years later they decided to create a religion which directly contradicted their book of control and preached that we're all gods, all religions are basically the same and everything is God. Thus they are trying to seperate those who believe in the "God's chosen people" vs those who believe "God is Everything" again. At the same time it unites those who believe love is paramount though.

I am not so sure about them preaching we are all gods, afterall what their goals are is to create the polar opposite, and every shade in between that and the truth, thereby providing a mechanism with which to eventually consolidate everything together into global governance AND with which to consolidate societies together into an empire by any means necessary, spiritually, militaristically, and economically. The rotten elites (royal bloodlines) inbred (which makes you go crazy and have freak children) with each other as well they had "education" and riches which the masses did not typically have. These sick inbred people had plenty of time to discuss the philosophy of manipulating people under their yoke. What you are seeing is the product of 1000's of years of social engineering being transformed into a science. Remember the devil is supposed to be the master of deception and gatekeeper of "knowledge". I'll refer to how he was the snake in the garden of eden that encouraged adam to eat the apple.


At the same time they decided to combine all the worlds governments through various wars and the such and created the UN to stop the wars they created. Now they're using that UN to bring about the Occupy movement to further unite the nations so they can bring about their plans they wrote on some cryptic monument.

Not just the United Nations. All sorts of organizations such as the trilateral commission, the olympics (LOL -- just had to toss that one in there), the CFR, the central banks, etc. There is a whole structure of thousands of organizations out there designed to push this agenda.
The ability for this splintering of their plans (compartmentalization) was greatly increased with the invention of the corporation in the modern sense



posted on May, 22 2012 @ 01:52 PM
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I don't know seems like a lot of circular non sense for no point if the end game is to nuke the world/poison food sources/ pandemic etc. Especially since they supposedly have all those tools @ their disposal right now. What does Satan get out of this? Besides less people on HIS world? I'm confused

The end game is not to nuke anything. Not in the sense you believe. Perhaps they will nuke everything but before they do that they will vaccinate themselves with the isreal/american produced anti-radiation therapy, which supposedly one day might allow UNLIMITED exposure to radiation thus allowing them to nuke things and then occupy the territory and infrastructure right away.
That aside you are being poisoned, if you are in a chemtrailly area, you should take a swath of dust off something (like a plant, the atmosphere and rain cause a dust layer on most plants) and TASTE IT. Where I live it tastes rather metallic (that would be the barium and aluminum). Not that I want to sound crazy but they are totally poisoning you, this planet, and everything in it, so that they can play god. Of course they aren't poisoning themselves. They don't like god's creation so they will make a new one in their own image instead.



posted on May, 22 2012 @ 01:56 PM
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You have a complete misunderstanding of Sumer, Babylon, Akkad, the Elamites, Amorites, and Hattian peoples' like the Hittites and Hurrians. In fact, your middle-eastern history is all off. You didn't even try to understand the ages of Mesopotamian culture. You just grabbed random fringe theories, and compiled them into one great big ridiculous super conspiracy.

You say the Illuminati began before Rome, in "samaria" (it's spelled Sumer). This is impossible as "Illuminatus" is a latin term, implying enlightenment. Not a Semitic one. Additionally, the Illuminati were a 1700s short-lived anti-enlightenment secret society much like the Masons, Templars, and other Renaissance magical socieities.

Also, you equate the Illuminati with Babylon, and Babylon with Sumer. Babylon, in fact, comes from the Akkadian (Old Babylon) and Assyrian (Chaldean's New Babylon) empires. Not from Sumer. I have no choice but to believe that you have no idea what you're talking about.

The Habiru—Hebrews, or "Wanderers of Yahweh"—are not from Sumer. The peoples of Sumer were not Semitic. The original Semitic tribes of Mesopotamia are the Akkadians (northerners), Elamites (easterners), and Amorites (westerners). The nomadic Jews, in fact, come about after the reign of Akhenaten in Egypt (~1300 BC).

Anyway, your history is completely inaccurate. So your entire argument is invalid.

~ Wandering Scribe



posted on May, 22 2012 @ 04:57 PM
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Originally posted by Wandering Scribe
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You have a complete misunderstanding of Sumer, Babylon, Akkad, the Elamites, Amorites, and Hattian peoples' like the Hittites and Hurrians. In fact, your middle-eastern history is all off. You didn't even try to understand the ages of Mesopotamian culture. You just grabbed random fringe theories, and compiled them into one great big ridiculous super conspiracy.

You say the Illuminati began before Rome, in "samaria" (it's spelled Sumer). This is impossible as "Illuminatus" is a latin term, implying enlightenment. Not a Semitic one. Additionally, the Illuminati were a 1700s short-lived anti-enlightenment secret society much like the Masons, Templars, and other Renaissance magical socieities.

Also, you equate the Illuminati with Babylon, and Babylon with Sumer. Babylon, in fact, comes from the Akkadian (Old Babylon) and Assyrian (Chaldean's New Babylon) empires. Not from Sumer. I have no choice but to believe that you have no idea what you're talking about.

The Habiru—Hebrews, or "Wanderers of Yahweh"—are not from Sumer. The peoples of Sumer were not Semitic. The original Semitic tribes of Mesopotamia are the Akkadians (northerners), Elamites (easterners), and Amorites (westerners). The nomadic Jews, in fact, come about after the reign of Akhenaten in Egypt (~1300 BC).

Anyway, your history is completely inaccurate. So your entire argument is invalid.

~ Wandering Scribe


If you would remove the title "illuminaiti" from your anals of historical reference and instead use the title "those who control the economies, religions and civilizations of mankind" then your issue is removed for you. The group was not called by the term "illuminaiti" until the 1700s. Just like Americans are called Americans and not englishmen after generations of relocation and reestablishing yourself. Titles change.

The whole system started in Babel, once God confounded the languages and the peoples scattered across the world, the system became promonent everywhere but under different titles, due to different languages. It existed in Assyria, Egypt, Akkad, Sumer and Babel (later caled Babylon). It has always existed because Satan has always existed in this age of mankinds self rule. it is the human oginization by which Satan rules this age. It is the pagan sun god worship of Satan, and it exist everywhere because we live in an age where only a few will ever know the true God of creation, but God has a plan for the salvation of all mankind, but that is a different thread.

Satan knows God, and has pre-copied the truth in order to hold it captive all along the way.

The OP theory pre-dates all thing post-flood (what we call pre-historic is pre-flood).

God Bless,



posted on May, 25 2012 @ 05:56 PM
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Seriously trying to debunk a whole thread by taking "vague" examples (such as my use of babylon and sumaria) as literal is a logical fallacy.

The insinuation is that these people quickly became established perhaps a few hundred years to a thousand years of the first functional government.

Furthermore, I do not care who wandered where and what tribe did what with another tribe or if they were in egypt or not. Technically I would believe the illuminati to be the ruling class of egypt whom enslaved the jews. Personally I think of the "illuminated ones" as a virus and once they come into contact with another culture that has nothing to do with them they do whatever it takes to infiltrate the leadership and steer the culture to the benefit of their worldly ideals.

You claim debunking because of the word illuminati, however, everybody else seems to have no problems reading behind the lines and realizing that was not the first label given to that group. What are you going to do next debunk by pointing out examples of bad grammar and spelling mistakes?

Anyways you get the point and if not, then you are just being anal.

Rocks weren't always called rocks, but I bet you they existed before people came along and called them rocks.

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posted on May, 25 2012 @ 07:47 PM
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Seriously trying to debunk a whole thread by taking "vague" examples (such as my use of babylon and sumaria) as literal is a logical fallacy.


To think that a proper understanding of history is not pertinent to an historical conspiracy makes you, not me, the one committing a logical fallacy.


The insinuation is that these people quickly became established perhaps a few hundred years to a thousand years of the first functional government.


The insinuation is incorrect then.

Sumer, Babylon, the Jews; they weren't transformed "over night" into great civilizations. If you understood the history of the region, and knew the sheer amount of in-fighting, and how many times power and control shifted between Semites, non-Semitic tribes like Indo-European groups, proto-Greek tribes, Persian, and Egyptian parties, you would understand why your theory falls on it's face.

Sumer was a primitive society of nature-worshiping individuals who favored a bull-god of the seasonal grain, and a Great Earth goddess of the lunar cycle. Babylon and Akkad were warrior-tribes who favored a single, all-powerful warrior god who doled out command to "sacred" city-states, based on their importance during great cultural wars. The Jews only ever owned Judah and Israel (briefly), both of which were established on a belief in race and ethnicity, not by a secret cabal of leaders from behind-the-scenes.

Your vague assertions are incorrect.


Furthermore, I do not care who wandered where and what tribe did what with another tribe or if they were in egypt or not.


I know you do not, and that is why your conspiracy is full of holes, flaws, and ultimately incorrect.


Technically I would believe the illuminati to be the ruling class of egypt whom enslaved the jews.


And, "technically" you would be wrong, since Egypt's ruling class changed several times over it's 4000 years of existence. Moving from warrior-kings, to Pharaohs, to priest-craft, to a dictatorial monotheism, and back to rulers with diverse beliefs.


Personally I think of the "illuminated ones" as a virus and once they come into contact with another culture that has nothing to do with them they do whatever it takes to infiltrate the leadership and steer the culture to the benefit of their worldly ideals.


Personally, I think your thoughts and opinions aren't worth a penny's weight when compared to the real history and practices, and beliefs of the people whom you're slandering. Reality will always over-rule self-delusion.


You claim debunking because of the word illuminati, however, everybody else seems to have no problems reading behind the lines


ATS is full of people who need, and love, to feel persecuted by invisible enemies. That's why boogeymen like the Illuminati continue to thrive, when they clearly do not exist, or operate, anymore today. Just because everyone else is blind to the reality of things, does not make the delusion real. Everyone believed once in a flat earth, around which the sun orbited. They had no problem believing that either... and guess what: they were all wrong!


Rocks weren't always called rocks, but I bet you they existed before people came along and called them rocks.


If you think the existence of a rock, and the existence of an intelligent, evil cabal of super-powered leaders are in the same field, you've seriously lost the point of your whole work.

~ Wandering Scribe





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