posted on May, 21 2012 @ 06:38 PM
I would like to begin this thread by saying that this conversation was between myself, and my Brother-In-Law.
I was raised in the Christian Church, my Grandfather was a well respected preacher who "saved" many souls.
My Sister is married to a man who has a Master's Degree in Theology and is the pastor of a thriving church. He also went to Seminary and has written
several books on I forget what but he is as Christian as they come. God Bless Him. He truly believes what he preaches, and he fears for his
Sister-In-Law's (me) soul.
I am a seeker and tho I was raised as a Christian, I have always had issues with it as you will see.
The following is an excerpt of a conversation we had online recently.
I look forward to the comments.
meh...the Universe is conspiring FOR me...but thats a very nice thing for you to say!
I need to do my "Manifestation" prayer...I havent done it for awhile...it's time. Then all I want will begin to fall into place for me
but I need to be clear what I want first
just call me Jabez, lol
Ok "jabez": Seek first the Kingdom of God and His righteousness, and all these things (the things you truly need) will be given to you. That is the
true source of power: you don't possess that kind of power (to manifest...whatever) and the universe doesn't possess that kind of power either. Both
you and the universe were created by God, however, and HE does possess that kind of power...if you will seek him.....
hmm, well then I guess I have been accepted by the kingdom, because I have been granted the ability to put forth my needs (and desires) and if they
are aligned with my purpose, I am blessed and they are granted. I have experienced this numerous times in the past when faced with a crossroads such
as I am facing right now, and I have never been denied. Just my experience...
I feel that I dont have to seek GOD because GOD is with me. I know him...
In my knowing, GOD is neither. The duality (is that the term I'm trying to convey?) of "him" or "her" is beneath the GOD of my knowing
how 'bout them Lakers?! I think maybe they can go all the way!
There are so many things i'd like to say to you. I am speaking about the God revealed in the Bible and you are speaking about the "god" that you
have created. The God revealed in the Bible is a relational God and the descriptive language (i.e. He, Father, etc.) is not intended to limit or box
God in, but rather to help humans better understand some of God's attributes.
btw...do you think God is on the Laker's side?
doubt it...dem is HEATHENS< I say...
you may be right...they may be heathen.
i feel a song coming on...
and if the GOD I know is simply a GOD I created than I must say, I am a very creative individual with powers of magic and inspiration I never knew I
possesed before now!
I am far too humble to begin to think I am that powerful, creative or wise
And even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing. In their case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the
unbelievers, to keep them from seeing the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.
(2 Corinthians 4:3-4 ESV)"How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the
nations! For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount
of the congregation, in the sides of the north: I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High." Isaiah 14:12-14
I call them "sheeple" They believe everything the news media tells them to believe. they are medicated by" Dancing With the Stars", et al
They will never see it coming unless NBC instructs them when to tune in. MHO, sad to say
I'm not sure who you are talking about in the above post. To follow up w/the 2 scripture quotes above: There are many supernatural beings...some
(i.e. Lucifer, the most beautiful of God's created angels) corrupted as noted in the Isaiah quote. Lucifer, btw, was Satan's name (aka "the devil),
and he is powerful, cunning and wants to "be like the most High." (God).
Sadly, Mom is an excellent example of this. I hope she doesnt have to see the horrors I feel are coming
I am talking about the ppl that we are surrounded by in our (and most industrialized) society(ies)
I see ppl all the time that are ( IMO) programmed beautifully by our media and their handlers. Lucifer is certainly enjoying great power/ authority
and influence in America today
and I feel he is certainly in control of many of the world's gov'ts
interesting times we live in...I feel lucky to be witness to these times
and even more fortunate not to be under the influence of the opium of the mainstream
at least "I" dont think I am...
Glad I dont have TV...
idiot box is right
great sermon fodder...
I agree that he is enjoying great power, etc, but Lucifer/Satan, "the god of this world", doesn't care who/what ANYONE believes in AS LONG AS IT IS
NOT THE GOD WHO CREATED ALL THINGS. And that brings it back to your unbiblical perception of God. It's not the "opium of the mainstream" that you
need to be concerned about. It's the deception of the god of this world...who has duped the mainstream (who are NOT my sister), but who is also
duping you by blinding you to the truth of who God really is. And I care about you too much to not say so.
If you hadnt noticed, I dont worship or even have any relationship with "The god of this world". But to the the GOD who created ALL THINGS,
including the god of this world.
I realize your concern and care and fear for my soul... I wish there was some way for me to allay those fears. But you will see me in your heaven, as
it would be HELL for you if I werent there
If your relationship is with the God who created all things, including heaven, than you must surely recognize that God has also established the
criteria for "admission" into that heaven, not you, me or anyone else. "Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one
comes to the Father except through me." (John 14:6 ESV)