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Exposing Freemasons & 33 - Geometry,Astrology, or Devil Worship?

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posted on May, 29 2012 @ 02:12 PM
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Originally posted by JesuitGarlic

Please provide some Bible translations and verses where I can look up these Baal words from. If they are not from King James version then you will be wasting your time.



[sarcasm]Obviously! After all, we all are completely aware that the Bible was written in the King's English, and that therefore, everything else is a satanic counterfeit.[/sarcasm]




posted on May, 29 2012 @ 03:35 PM
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Most of the newer English translations which derive from the efforts of Wescott and Hort have been corrupted to one degree as these guys were Jesuits, so there would be no point defending corruptions from those versions that are deliberately placed there



posted on May, 29 2012 @ 05:34 PM
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Originally posted by rainbowbear
This is a big assumption. Shame!


What is a big assumption? That if you claim that there are alleged 'higher-ups' then me that they would not be even higher-up then you? How so? How could you claim that I am somehow 'outranked' yet you are not despite not being a member?



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posted on May, 30 2012 @ 02:56 AM
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The Doctor is not anti-science. He taught evolution theory for a great number of years until he decided to take a serious look at the fossil record and the 'transition species'. He found that the supposed transition species do not exist, that all phylum are present at the same time fully developed at the time of the cambium explosion. The effects of evolution is only limited to the micro-level where their is differentiations between kinds. There is absolutely no evidence that such differentiations produce macro-level fundamental changes in a species, but scientist extrapolate such data out to suggest it does when empirical evidence says there is no such thing past micro-evolution. He taught at one of the best zoological departments in the southern-hemisphere. He also has become one of the few people in the world that has taught creationist science to explain zoology/origins at a secular university because intelligent design and the bible record explains data way more completely that evolution and things like Big Bang theory which are massively flawed when you can take a serious look at both sides.

I will need to do a review of some of Veith's material to answer you about the background of his sources (Veith himself though is German but has spent heaps of time in South Africa). From off the top of my head I believe it was his wife's father. Veith describes in his testimony video I believe the kind of environment that his wife grew up in, how there were objects moving around the house all the time and various occult rituals that would be performed. Veith got the book Morals and Dogmas from his father-in-law (which wasn't returned to the lodge when he died) as well as many hard to get source books on Freemasonry and occult in general. He has become an Adventist now (previously a Roman Catholic then an Atheist) and has put out some excellent video series on science, health, and various end times topics which includes extensive coverage of topics of secret societies their historical origins and symbolism, United nations and New Age movement agendas and lots of analysis of the book of Revelation.

With his own information that he has on various secret societies and the New Age movement he combines it with information picked up by the most reputable sources (he is an awesome researcher) and some of this includes other Adventists who have written about such topics in the 1980's like activist/lawyer Constance Cumbey and in the 1990's by former Europe & Middle East Trade Specialist for the Indiana state government Gary Kah as well as specialist Jesuit research Eric John Phelps (not Adventist but a Seventh-day protestant nonetheless). The large amount of quotes I was using previously comes from those researched by Veith and these are extremely high sources and can not be just dismissed as nothing. Trying to dismiss information that ex-jesuit Alberto Rivera presents is like being in denial, these sources are credible and what they say matters a great deal. You are welcome to look into the backgrounds of all the names mentioned here.

If you want to follow up on the scientific perspective of Dr Veith I would suggest going to this link to his series on The Genesis Conflict.

Another awesome resource putting the case for intelligent design is a book by Lee Strobel called, 'The case for a creator'. Once you read that book and think about all the factors that make up this present world and us to keep it all functioning smoothly and try to explain it through evolution, big bang and similar theories you see how explanatory they actually are and that data suggests ID is easily the best fit. A good youtube video is by a guy called Ben Stein titled 'No Intelligence Allowed', the video shows clearly how the alternative scientific viewpoint has been deliberately removed from schools, not because it is unscientific (cos it is in fact more scientifically explanatory) but other agendas at work (seeing that the illuminati target education as one of their main areas, it isn't really surprising when you consider it)
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posted on May, 30 2012 @ 05:01 AM
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Originally posted by Masonic Light

Originally posted by JesuitGarlic
A couple of videos of Ex-Jesuit Dr Alberto Rivera


Rivera was never a Jesuit.

Nor was he ever a doctor, for that matter.

en.wikipedia.org...

The links at the bottom of the page are to the articles in "Christianity Today" and "Cornerstone", which both expose Rivera as a huckster.
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This is not a very bright comment. I haven't looked into this Cornerstone publication as yet but Christianity Today is an illuminati controlled publication, I would have expected nothing less from them...do you think I am going to believe a Wikipedia entry about probably the most important whistle blower in modern times going up again the most powerful secret society that effectively controls the world....ah no.

Do some serious research than just trying to shoot the messenger with whatever drivel that hits your eyes first that you hope will enable you to hold on to your views without having to think.

Have a look at the first part of 6 of this video by the author Bill Hughes of the books 'The Secret Terrorist' and 'The Enemy Unmarked' to get an idea of how the Jesuit and Catholic priests operate to infiltrate places using the example of a few occurrences in Adventism. Video is 10 mins long



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posted on May, 30 2012 @ 05:36 AM
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I can say for sure if he has the same theory on freemasonry as you do, then he is quite far from an "awesome researcher". Being a member, I feel a bit more qualified to have an opinion than his best friends, cousin's, neighbor's uncle. The Illuminati isn't around anymore. Their reason for existence had nothing to do with world domination or control. It's a shame you waste your "education" learning about fantasy opinions while you disregard real life things. I bet you are afraid of the truth because if you find out your "teachers" have been lying to you about one thing, maybe they were lying about other stuff as well. I suggest not digging too much more. Heaven forbid you may stumble upon the real truth.



posted on May, 30 2012 @ 05:49 AM
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The Illuminati isn't around anymore.


The fact that you said this shows you have no idea of the power structure of the world and what is really going on



posted on May, 30 2012 @ 09:54 AM
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Originally posted by JesuitGarlic


Most of the newer English translations which derive from the efforts of Wescott and Hort have been corrupted to one degree as these guys were Jesuits, so there would be no point defending corruptions from those versions that are deliberately placed there


You do realize that it's sort of silly to call everyone with whom you disagree "Jesuits"?



posted on May, 30 2012 @ 11:26 AM
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You do realize if you studied history is serious detail you would actually be able to understand what is going on and how it has been carefully carried out. It is then easy to spot the tell tale hand of the Jesuit

Description: Our battle is not against flesh and blood. Spiritual forces would wish to rob man of the only source of inspiration outlining the road to salvation. In the Battle of the Bibles hard evidence is provided for how the enemy has worked behind the scenes to create the stage for the final attack on the Word of God itself. The history and affiliations of those who have dared to reshape God's Word to suit their occult philosophy is clearly exposed.

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posted on May, 31 2012 @ 07:17 AM
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Originally posted by JesuitGarlic
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The Illuminati isn't around anymore.


The fact that you said this shows you have no idea of the power structure of the world and what is really going on


Good luck with all that. I guess I will just have to be happy not knowing what is "really" going on.

BTW, at what point in history did the goal of the Illuminati change from freeing the people from oppression, to enslaving the world? I am sure you can answer that sing you are such a knowledgeable historical reference.



posted on May, 31 2012 @ 08:01 AM
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Originally posted by JesuitGarlic
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You do realize if you studied history is serious detail


I minored in history.

None of this anti-Jesuit paranoia has any existence outside of the imaginations of conspiracy theorists. If you don't believe me, ask any history professor.



posted on May, 31 2012 @ 08:05 AM
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Originally posted by network dude

Originally posted by JesuitGarlic
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The Illuminati isn't around anymore.


The fact that you said this shows you have no idea of the power structure of the world and what is really going on


Good luck with all that. I guess I will just have to be happy not knowing what is "really" going on.

BTW, at what point in history did the goal of the Illuminati change from freeing the people from oppression, to enslaving the world? I am sure you can answer that sing you are such a knowledgeable historical reference.


That would be from the time they were formally established by jesuit trained Adam Weishaupt to be another branch of the Jesuit arm.



posted on May, 31 2012 @ 08:08 AM
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Originally posted by JesuitGarlic


That would be from the time they were formally established by jesuit trained Adam Weishaupt to be another branch of the Jesuit arm.


Pure fiction. The Illuminati was *anti*-Jesuit.



posted on May, 31 2012 @ 08:11 AM
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Are you sure you know all about the Illuminati? Because the guy who wrote that book did some exhaustive research and has a vastly different idea than you did. Perhaps you could cite your reference material like the author of that book did.



posted on May, 31 2012 @ 10:25 AM
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It's ironic that must anti-Masons have more in common with their accusations than they realize.



posted on Jun, 2 2012 @ 01:47 PM
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I find it interesting that Masons look to the east when the temple entrance is to the west.

Thus they are turning their back on the church and thus God.



posted on Jun, 2 2012 @ 04:36 PM
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The Presiding officer is in the East. The entrance of the Lodge is in the West. Thus you will hear us talk about guarding our West Gate. Thanks for trying though.



posted on Jun, 2 2012 @ 05:01 PM
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You Masons must be enjoying the heck out of all these threads about your organization. You're getting a lot of exposure.



posted on Jun, 2 2012 @ 05:44 PM
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Originally posted by disgustingfatbody
You Masons must be enjoying the heck out of all these threads about your organization. You're getting a lot of exposure.


'I don't care what you say about me, just spell my name right.'

P.T. Barnum



posted on Jun, 2 2012 @ 06:44 PM
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It's entertaining and annoying.



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