OWS is pro-Obama? Think again!

Originally posted by Kali74
reply to post by 00nunya00

 

Myself and others have been saying this for months.
Haters don't listen.

Haters? talk about useless name-calling. I don't even hate Obama, but I do not care for his leftist radical Marxist ideology.
I have observed the leftist radical nature of the OWS movement, but I recognize that they are against the corruption of the big bankers, but their hatred of the bankers comes from a systemic hatred of Capitalism which is Marxist ideology at best.

The Left is just mad at Obama because they view him as representing Capitalism instead of their hatred of the banking institution. Oddly enough the Obama admin embraced the OWS movement, as did the Communist Party USA and the neo Nazi movement.

reply to post by Kali74

None of those groups back Occupy, no group does. For that matter at least half of them don't back Obama either.

REALLY?

I beg to differ.

List of OWS Sponsors

Or how about this??

UAW Training 100,000 for OWS Protests

Originally posted by 00nunya00
reply to post by seabag

 

I agree he's a liar, but I don't understand how you can say that people who support him and also support OWS makes OWS a pro-Obama organization? It not. That's like saying racists support the Tea Party, therefore the TP is racist. It doesn't work like that. There are Obama supporters who agree that Wall St and the 1% need to be taken to the woodshed, but they're hoping he can stand up to do it. OWSers on the whole do not believe that. Not the ones that actually go to rallies and "mic check". See for yourself, dude, watch what they had to say. One of the videos is archived now. The rants start around 5m30s
Fixed video link

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Except the Tea Party outright rejected the racists. OWS is such a mishmash of leftist, progressive, radical, anti-Capitalist, Communist, Unions, and everything else leftist but the kitchen sink.

Originally posted by XPLodER

Originally posted by captaintyinknots
The truth as I see it, is that OWS is not PRO-ANYTHING. They only stand against things.

corruption
TBTF
WALL STREET
among others

xp

All things they stand against. So what do they stand FOR?

reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus

Except the Tea Party outright rejected the racists. OWS is such a mishmash of leftist, progressive, radical, anti-Capitalist, Communist, Unions, and everything else leftist but the kitchen sink.

acually as OWS is open for anyone and every one (who subscribe to peaceful non violent protest) from any walk of life and race and any culture,

you specifically point to a demographic as representing the whole,
and in doing so are showing conitive disodence to reality,
anyone can be OWS if they agree to a democractic process that excludes NO ONE and agree to peaceful non violence.

every else you point out just shows your ignorence to the process of OWS and to its OPEN nature of leaderless protest.

wake up

xploder

reply to post by captaintyinknots

All things they stand against. So what do they stand FOR?

unity of different groups, people, ideas and working together for a better future for all and not just the 1%

xploder

Originally posted by XPLodER
reply to post by captaintyinknots

 

All things they stand against. So what do they stand FOR?

unity of different groups, people, ideas and working together for a better future for all and not just the 1%

xploder

Thats all great and good, but HOW do they stand FOR these things? I'm not seeing it.

reply to post by captaintyinknots


i can and have spent many an hour showing people how things are happening,
the easyest way of explaining it is simple education.
when people know how they are being screwed, they will change and demand change.

you cant stop an idea whos time has come

xploder

Originally posted by XPLodER
reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus

 

Except the Tea Party outright rejected the racists. OWS is such a mishmash of leftist, progressive, radical, anti-Capitalist, Communist, Unions, and everything else leftist but the kitchen sink.

acually as OWS is open for anyone and every one (who subscribe to peaceful non violent protest) from any walk of life and race and any culture,

you specifically point to a demographic as representing the whole,
and in doing so are showing conitive disodence to reality,
anyone can be OWS if they agree to a democractic process that excludes NO ONE and agree to peaceful non violence.

every else you point out just shows your ignorence to the process of OWS and to its OPEN nature of leaderless protest.

wake up

xploder

I was awake as far back as 1977 so do not bother to patronize me. Although a few Ron Paul people and even a few T Party supported OWS I recognize that, but the vast majority are left leaning and even radical and pretty anarchist. While I would support people who are against TPTB in many of it's guises, I cannot back people who are communist sympathizers.

reply to post by seabag


Sponsor or endorse generally means give money, a verbal endorsement is something else entirely...anyone can say what they want and usually that is because they want to romance or co-opt...they failed.

Again with this 99% Spring crap which is Move-On's massively failed attempt to turn Occupy into re-elect Obama campaign. Right away Occupy called them out on it and got the information out on all the social media that it was an attempt at co-opt. In fact if you had bothered watching the link provided to you in this thread you would have seen a speaker tell to F-off

If you're going to constantly criticize make sure you have your facts straight because you will be called on it.

reply to post by Kali74

Again with this 99% Spring crap which is Move-On's massively failed attempt to turn Occupy into re-elect Obama campaign. Right away Occupy called them out on it and got the information out on all the social media that it was an attempt at co-opt.

Nobody can tell the difference anymore…hence my point that OWS and Obama are intertwined.

Thanks for helping me prove my point, Kali!

reply to post by seabag


That's ridiculous logic. "I'm sticking my fingers in my ears and closing my eyes while I'm told something I don't want to be true because then I have to actually apply reason and I don't to wahhhhh". Are you kidding me? You know the difference, you're just ignoring it. That doesn't make it Occupies problem, it makes it yours.

I support the protesters and I don't support Obama.
Oh, and I might as well add this in. I have a Job also.
I also support capitalism, but not the fascism we have where the Big Banks and Corps own our government.

So much for the media propaganda painting everyone as commies, socialists, or unemployed lazy people, or people looking for a handout. The ones looking for a handout would be the criminals in our government and their buddies in the Financial Industry, stealing my tax dollars to prop up themselves.

Originally posted by jacobe001
I support the protesters and I don't support Obama.
Oh, and I might as well add this in. I have a Job also.
I also support capitalism, but not the fascism we have where the Big Banks and Corps own our government.

So much for the media propaganda painting everyone as commies, socialists, or unemployed lazy people, or people looking for a handout. The ones looking for a handout would be the criminals in our government and their buddies in the Financial Industry, stealing my tax dollars to prop up themselves.

thank you star for you,
when people realise that it is socialism to bail out the TO BIG TO FAILS
and NOT capitalism

then OWS suddenly makes sence

xploder

reply to post by Kali74

That's ridiculous logic. "I'm sticking my fingers in my ears and closing my eyes while I'm told something I don't want to be true because then I have to actually apply reason and I don't to wahhhhh". Are you kidding me? You know the difference, you're just ignoring it. That doesn't make it Occupies problem, it makes it yours.

Excuse me…that’s what you’ve been doing!

OWS has a problem (besides rampant drug abuse, unemployment and a general dislike of self-reliance) and that’s their willful ignorance of the fact that they are pawns in a game they do not understand.

reply to post by seabag


When are you going to knock it off and have some integrity? I owned my mistake with the Tea Party with my assumptions and propelling media disinformation. Why can't you do the same?

reply to post by Kali74

When are you going to knock it off and have some integrity? I owned my mistake with the Tea Party with my assumptions and propelling media disinformation. Why can't you do the same?

I will gladly do so if and when it’s justified.

I know I’m right on this…until proven otherwise.

Occupy =

Tea Party =

You were right to eat crow!

reply to post by seabag


You know you're wrong and you're enjoying every second that you know you're upsetting me. Thanks for showing your true colors.

You were right to eat crow!

Nice arrogance there, typical wingnut behavior...no discussion, never admit you're wrong and attack attack attack.

Originally posted by Kali74
reply to post by seabag

 

You know you're wrong and you're enjoying every second that you know you're upsetting me. Thanks for showing your true colors.

You know I don’t mean to upset you! I’ve come to your defense several times (you’ve even asked me to stop).

We have a difference of opinion. Obviously you haven’t changed mine. The fact that you ate crow on TTP means I still have a chance to change yours...so I will keep trying until you come out of the darkness!

Originally posted by seabag
reply to post by Kali74

 

When are you going to knock it off and have some integrity? I owned my mistake with the Tea Party with my assumptions and propelling media disinformation. Why can't you do the same?

I will gladly do so if and when it’s justified.

I know I’m right on this…until proven otherwise.

Occupy =

Tea Party =

You were right to eat crow!

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that is the second time in two seperate threads you have yused the same language and pictures to attempt to smear OWS

either get some new material or stop reguratating the same crap over and again

you sound EXACTLY like the MSM naritive,
dirty hippies who dont want to work

well you should get educated if your going to shoot your mouth off
because a few people in this thread have tryed to be curtious and disscuss things rationally

some thing to remember,
bashing OWS will get you no where on a thread like this,
it just makes you look like CNN



OWS is not political to continue to try to say it is,
is disingenuos and ignorent

its NOT left against right
its people VS wall street

stop being devicive and do some reading

xploder