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posted on May, 23 2012 @ 11:50 AM
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Originally posted by BreeAnna00
reply to post by SaturnFX
 

"I would rather have 4 more years of Obama breaking promises, than 4 years of the right keeping their promises."


Typical liberal, never can admit their wrong doing. Do us all a favor and get over yourself!
The only question I have to ask you, you honestly think the economy is better today, then it was 4 years ago?


4 years ago was when the missile hit the boat and we started taking on tremendous amounts of water.
The captain jumped ship when it was in titantic mode.
You can't then point and say..look. when he jumped ship, there was still a tiny bit left on the surface..
momentum.
Now, I can show you actual charts of the bounceback (the bailing water)...but, your a typical conservative it appears..unable to understand cause/effect....so seems like a wasted effort overall. I will instead take the time necessary to explain the dynamics to you and teach my dog particle physics.




posted on May, 23 2012 @ 12:40 PM
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Originally posted by seabag
reply to post by BreeAnna00
 


There are actually people in SoCali NOT voting for Obama??


Then again you've seen first hand the destruction liberals policies create so I guess I shouldn't be surprised. Hopefully there are many more like you!


Something that people don't get is that most of California is fairly Conservative. If it weren't for San Francisco, parts of NorCal, and L.A, this state would be deep red.

Obama is genuinely hated here in San Diego and North County. Lots of military and actual hard-working people as opposed to the unions, Progs, and welfare sycophants that vote in the bigger California cities.

I won't pretend to believe that Romney is that much different but we've got to get this current clown out of office....he is truly a national disgrace. At least let the adults back in to change this suicidal course this country is on.



posted on May, 23 2012 @ 02:26 PM
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I really don't get how most people on this thread are shown undeniable facts but still think its worth voting because it is the lesser of two evils.
It is my belief that voting : 1. Is accepting this "democracy" as a democracy
2. Is giving consent to have your lives ruled by lying psychopaths.
3. Makes F@CK all difference - TPTB control the POTUS in every way.

Not voting is a rejection of a pitiful selection of powerless idiots. Accepting voting once every 4 years as a means of democracy is sick. It works on a very small scale when you know the person your voting for on a personal level, but how can you give power over your whole country to a person who you do not know. All of your knowledge about them comes from speeches they do not even write. You cannot believe, seriously, that voting changes anything. You think they give a flying sh#t about your well being? If you do, you are a fool.

By the way, anyone who subscribes themselves to the left/right: you should look at the facts of any issue, choosing what side you are on based on whether your "blue" or "red" is idiotic. It is a divide and rule tactic and stops us thinking.

Steven Molyneux puts this in a much more coherent manner:


(I do, however, have a soft spot for Ron Paul)
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posted on May, 24 2012 @ 06:39 AM
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agreed.




posted on May, 24 2012 @ 08:26 AM
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Originally posted by SaturnFX

Originally posted by BreeAnna00
reply to post by SaturnFX
 

"I would rather have 4 more years of Obama breaking promises, than 4 years of the right keeping their promises."


Typical liberal, never can admit their wrong doing. Do us all a favor and get over yourself!
The only question I have to ask you, you honestly think the economy is better today, then it was 4 years ago?


4 years ago was when the missile hit the boat and we started taking on tremendous amounts of water.
The captain jumped ship when it was in titantic mode.
You can't then point and say..look. when he jumped ship, there was still a tiny bit left on the surface..
momentum.
Now, I can show you actual charts of the bounceback (the bailing water)...but, your a typical conservative it appears..unable to understand cause/effect....so seems like a wasted effort overall. I will instead take the time necessary to explain the dynamics to you and teach my dog particle physics.



Show some hocky stick charts, actual charts?
Oh i bet those charts must be something so special!!! HOLY mOLEY
don't do us any favors.
or actually go ahead, break em down elehondro



posted on May, 24 2012 @ 08:49 AM
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Originally posted by wills120

Originally posted by seabag
reply to post by BreeAnna00
 


There are actually people in SoCali NOT voting for Obama??


Then again you've seen first hand the destruction liberals policies create so I guess I shouldn't be surprised. Hopefully there are many more like you!


Something that people don't get is that most of California is fairly Conservative. If it weren't for San Francisco, parts of NorCal, and L.A, this state would be deep red.

Obama is genuinely hated here in San Diego and North County. Lots of military and actual hard-working people as opposed to the unions, Progs, and welfare sycophants that vote in the bigger California cities.

I won't pretend to believe that Romney is that much different but we've got to get this current clown out of office....he is truly a national disgrace. At least let the adults back in to change this suicidal course this country is on.


I am not sure how you think we are on a worse course now...
The economy almost died in real terms, yet we came back
From the edge.


maybe you were in space or in a Deep coma for the last decade.
What we have today is still not right, that is how bad it was.
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posted on May, 24 2012 @ 11:00 AM
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Originally posted by popsmayhem
Show some hocky stick charts, actual charts?
Oh i bet those charts must be something so special!!! HOLY mOLEY
don't do us any favors.
or actually go ahead, break em down elehondro



There..chart provided..now make sure to vote Obama



posted on May, 24 2012 @ 11:04 AM
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Originally posted by SaturnFX

Originally posted by popsmayhem
Show some hocky stick charts, actual charts?
Oh i bet those charts must be something so special!!! HOLY mOLEY
don't do us any favors.
or actually go ahead, break em down elehondro



There..chart provided..now make sure to vote Obama


Al Gore has taught us never believe unproven
statistics. In the quest for denying ignorance
one must not use such bias reports.
The charts is a farce.



posted on May, 24 2012 @ 11:11 AM
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I hope the OP knows when you vote, you're voting for the lesser of two evils. And at the time of the election, Obama was that lesser evil. Ron Paul is here now, so we can write him in if he's not on the ballot. They're all puppets, same agendas. Try not to be political, be moral.



posted on May, 24 2012 @ 11:12 AM
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Originally posted by SaturnFX

Originally posted by popsmayhem
Show some hocky stick charts, actual charts?
Oh i bet those charts must be something so special!!! HOLY mOLEY
don't do us any favors.
or actually go ahead, break em down elehondro



There..chart provided..now make sure to vote Obama


That chart starts at Dec 2007.

What were the figures before that ?

Hmmm.



posted on May, 24 2012 @ 11:47 AM
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Originally posted by popsmayhem
Al Gore has taught us never believe unproven
statistics. In the quest for denying ignorance
one must not use such bias reports.
The charts is a farce.


Yes, B. of Lab Stat's is a total farce...mhmm.
Rush Limbaugh's thoughts...far more accurate than bipartisan commissions that rely on their integrity no matter who is in office.

Also, I don't believe bridges work...sure, they can show me blueprints, and can show me the illusion of people drive over it...nope, all a farce. I will just use magic fairy dust..the proven way to cross a stream.

I see your mentality.
I will no longer intentionally respond to you. I would rather make better use of my time, such as cleaning my fingernails.



posted on May, 24 2012 @ 11:52 AM
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Originally posted by xuenchen

That chart starts at Dec 2007.

What were the figures before that ?

Hmmm.



You guys know how to google stuff, right?

Frankly, for maximum impact, this chart is better...you can put a finger on 2005 and show the trend.

Seriously...if you need lessons, I can teach you how to use a search engine..their is a ton of information right there at your fingertips...



posted on May, 24 2012 @ 12:02 PM
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Let's not forget about the foreigners here who vote for obama even tho they have no FLUCKIN idea or understanding of what's going on! I live in a small town about 15 min from downtown and conservatives are the majority, half the population in El Cajon (my neighboring city) is black and muslim. Nothing here is racist okay people, I'm just saying!



posted on May, 24 2012 @ 12:04 PM
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I hope the OP knows when you vote, you're voting for the lesser of two evils. And at the time of the election, Obama was that lesser evil.


Though I agree that it’s always the lesser of two evils I completely agree that Obama was the best choice. I would take even slightly conservative policy over socialism any day.


Ron Paul is here now, so we can write him in if he's not on the ballot. They're all puppets, same agendas. Try not to be political, be moral.


I’m glad we have RP running. At least keeps the debate honest by keeping the important issues on the table and not letting the others get away with campaign lies (to an extent).

I am bound by my moral and political beliefs…they are aligned. Unfortunately there is no candidate that I completely identify with. We need to drop this two-party system and have open elections. Having two hardly distinguishable choices every 4 years is BS!!! No longer can we allow the two parties to force feed these bozos down our throats. Until we drop the two-party system this cycle will repeat.



posted on May, 24 2012 @ 12:07 PM
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Originally posted by SaturnFX

Originally posted by xuenchen

That chart starts at Dec 2007.

What were the figures before that ?

Hmmm.



You guys know how to google stuff, right?

Frankly, for maximum impact, this chart is better...you can put a finger on 2005 and show the trend.

Seriously...if you need lessons, I can teach you how to use a search engine..their is a ton of information right there at your fingertips...


This chart is much better!


It clearly shows that job growth died when Obama was elected. Everyone in business understood the ramifications of electing a big government socialist and Obama's election brought growth to a stand still.



posted on May, 24 2012 @ 12:12 PM
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nice Chart

I saw this today, something else to hinder O'bummers relection campaign

Obama a little flat in denver

uh oh he's losing money and then there's this gem

Biden not liked in swing states

Of course the resident obama-aid drinkers will call this propaganda.. (heck even things on CNN are propaganda now according to them)

I think they lost it... They know they are about to lose their messiah in a few months... :-p I'd be pissed too!



posted on May, 24 2012 @ 12:19 PM
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Originally posted by seabag
This chart is much better!


It clearly shows that job growth died when Obama was elected. Everyone in business understood the ramifications of electing a big government socialist and Obama's election brought growth to a stand still.

Your ability to read charts
is like my ability to give birth.



posted on May, 24 2012 @ 12:27 PM
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Originally posted by popsmayhem

Originally posted by SaturnFX

Originally posted by popsmayhem
Show some hocky stick charts, actual charts?
Oh i bet those charts must be something so special!!! HOLY mOLEY
don't do us any favors.
or actually go ahead, break em down elehondro



There..chart provided..now make sure to vote Obama


Al Gore has taught us never believe unprovens
statistics. In the quest for denying ignorance
one must not use such bias reports.
The charts is a farce.


It sounds like you believe in magic then, because
Backs math is the best way to eliminate bias from a
Discussion.

How is the chart a farce, other than the fact it makes
Your arguments appear ignorant?



posted on May, 24 2012 @ 12:30 PM
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OOO did you hear

the deficit last year was in the neighborhood of 5 Trillion dollars

WAY off the "official" report that was released

here's the source!

source



posted on May, 24 2012 @ 12:31 PM
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Originally posted by SaturnFX

Originally posted by seabag
This chart is much better!


It clearly shows that job growth died when Obama was elected. Everyone in business understood the ramifications of electing a big government socialist and Obama's election brought growth to a stand still.

Your ability to read charts
is like my ability to give birth.


I did not believe America is this sick or uneducated.
Because either these people are just liars, or they
Did not go to second grade? Is this new??? I just
Joined and it seems to be common place to be sort
Of off...





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