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posted on May, 21 2012 @ 02:12 PM
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I'm actually excited to watch this election cycle

Romney's looking like he will collect more donations than Obama

can't tell ya any predictions yet

but I think it'll be ugly for the liberals


Rightfully so…

They’ve made a bad situation worse and screwed the country up (particularly the economy) even more. How in the world would someone consider their negative actions (NDAA and Obamacare come to mind) and lack of achievement (still in a recession and unemployment is still high) worthy of 4 more years???


Epic Fail!!




posted on May, 21 2012 @ 02:21 PM
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Originally posted by neo96



I would rather have 4 more years of Obama breaking promises, than 4 years of the right keeping their promises.


Translation:

He would rather have a proven idiot liar in chief .pretty sad the Democrats had their chance they lied they failed they blamed and this country is not better off that it was 6 trillion ago.

16 trillion deficit
88 million Americans out of work or underemployed

And they are sitting there begging for another helping of stupid.

Meh




He's done a hell of lot better than that spoiled brat W Bush


The man will forever be seen as the man who destroyed the world economy at the
beginning of the 21st century.

You guys go two helping of stupid and it really paid off didn't it Neo?


Losing 800,000 jobs a month and you guys are so smart, you want to enact the
same policies AGAIN


You guys really shouldn't vote because your judgement is piss poor dude.

When this Economy official returns, what are you gonna do???

You have invested so heavily in lies and BS, you're gonna be screwed and I'm
gonna be laughing. Not a scummier group could be disappointed IMO



posted on May, 21 2012 @ 02:23 PM
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Originally posted by seabag

I hate these grandma chain letters. bunch of nonsense, 20% truth, 80% not that simple and misdirection
Not for you (you probably wrote the grandma chain letter...propaganda nonsense)..but for the odd person whom may be slightly interested:



1. Hawaii is in Asia??

Gaffe.
[sub]Obama understandably had Asia on the mind, as his press conference came in the middle of the U.S. hosting the Asia-Pacific Economic Cooperation summit, where representatives from many Asian countries were in attendance. [/sub]
meh. amusing, but otherwise irrelevant. I prefer Biden's gaffes..far more humorous


2. Passing on the keystone pipeline.

The stalling is a cost/benefit ratio consideration. Yes, oil companies want it done, because they want the profit potential, but at max capacity, it will give a whopping 3% of nations oil (aka, your pump price may go down a few cents...must factor in the overseas exports will rise in price to keep profit levels steady, so no real big savings at the pump will be noticed).
Jobs: it will create a few thousand temporary jobs stretched out across the united states...aka, unless it was all in a single town, it wouldn't be of significance at all
It would however promote even more pollution (fact).
So, the big push is not to help the economy, but rather because some oil tycoons are pretending it matters, and have purchased politicians to make it seem like this is the key to life and the universe. No, its the key to letting a few more oil barons get a new golden ferrari with no significant change to anything besides the environment


3. Touts a Green Energy Company as exemplary that fails a year later.

So?
What..you think approving of a direction a company is trying to go will make it magically continue on? Do you think they should have gotten bailed out? Or are you just laughing at the idea of trying to get off oil?
I quite like this argument line. HAHAHA, Obama likes people trying to change things for the better...lol..what a fool.
I highly recommend pushing this line of thinking
I am sure it will do wonders for the campaign


4. Using the Gulf Oil Spill to promote Green Energy – instead of cleaning it up.


Is it the governments job to clean up corporate messes? Or...is it the governments job to apologise to BP should they make a mess and we accidentally frown?


5. Thinking the Tea Party is a passing fad – or that they are racists.

Tea Party Express are both of those things...neither of them are the RP tea party.


6. Pulling out of Iraq with no clear victory over insurgent forces.

omg, he kept a promise he was elected to do? my..god.
so much for broken promises, aye?
anyhow, I am sure some internet granny knows more than the generals...sure.


7. Trying to re-write history through speeches – with inaccurate information (i.e. Statue of Liberty)

not fully inaccurate. Emma's poem is on the statue (gimme your tired. weak, etc...the history of it is pretty interesting).
Bad phrasing I would call this.


8. Getting a Nobel Prize for being the most ineffective President in the history of the United States, though some say it was for his pigment.

Meh, I disagree with american idol winners also..everyones a critic.


9. Putting all legislation on the Internet for five days before it comes to a vote.

...?


10. Returning the bust of Churchill to the Brits.

...and? (oh, and I am a big fan of the brits. but..having that is like a patton bust in the PM's office (aka, there is none)


11. Giving a collection of DVDs to the British PM.

They prefer beer. agreed here..crap gift


12. Denying the notion of American Exceptionalism.

Which is what exactly?


13. Promising to close Gitmo — failing to do so.

Republicans fault. too chicken--it to give em a trial


14. Securing the Olympics for Chicago in 2016.

?


15. Naming numerous Communists/Socialists/Progressives to his various Czar positions and then watching them scurry for cover when Beck begins to call them out, forcing them to resign.

to a neocon, anything left of theocratic fascism = socialist.


16. Government races for NJ, VA and the Senate Seat in Mass.

what of em?


17. The midterm elections, which Obama himself called a shellacking.

and? what..not suppose to view reality?

ran out of room. wall of nonsense stuff to overwhelm and therefore ignore tactic.
the rest was equal nonsense also (lol at the bowing thing...because no president before ever had shown approprate manners..nevermind the makeout sessions Bush had with the Sauds on camera

Anyhow, this list reminded me to check on my grandad today...haven't gotten one of his spam "Obama is a muslim" emails in awhile.



posted on May, 21 2012 @ 02:26 PM
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He's done a hell of lot better than that spoiled brat W Bush


Delusional




The man will forever be seen as the man who destroyed the world economy at the beginning of the 21st century.


Hard for anyone to beat the left wing lie machine




Losing 800,000 jobs a month and you guys are so smart, you want to enact the same policies AGAIN


There are currently 88 million Ameircans out of work/underemployed with 50 million on welfare

Yeah Obama has done a great job!!!




You guys really shouldn't vote because your judgement is piss poor dude.


That is how OBama is sitting in the oval office.




You have invested so heavily in lies and BS, you're gonna be screwed and I'm gonna be laughing. Not a scummier group could be disappointed IMO


Pot meet kettle.



posted on May, 21 2012 @ 02:27 PM
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All I know under Bush

I could get a credit card with a 10K limit
and gas was 2.50$ a gallon



under obama
no credit
4.50$ a gallon
NDAA



posted on May, 21 2012 @ 02:28 PM
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Originally posted by seabag
reply to post by DrNotforhire
 



I'm actually excited to watch this election cycle

Romney's looking like he will collect more donations than Obama

can't tell ya any predictions yet

but I think it'll be ugly for the liberals


Rightfully so…

They’ve made a bad situation worse and screwed the country up (particularly the economy) even more. How in the world would someone consider their negative actions (NDAA and Obamacare come to mind) and lack of achievement (still in a recession and unemployment is still high) worthy of 4 more years???


Epic Fail!!




The economy is far better than it was when Obama had his 1st day in office.

How are you guys gonna win with lies when anyone can lookup the truth?

...Oh ya, with more lies

NDAA???

The GOP blocked the effort to repeal the indefinate detention clause this last week.

GOP voted to keep it, will liberals voted to get rid of it

19 GOP members voted with good graces while over 95% of the party voted to
keep it.

19 DEMs are disgraceful bastards, but OVER 90% voted to repeal it.

So sorry, you should not utter the letters NDAA in a political debate if
you are smart




Lawmakers rejected an amendment that would have barred military detention for terror suspects captured in the United States on a 182-231 vote, beating back the proposal from a coalition of liberal Democrats and libertarian-leaning Republicans led by Reps. Adam Smith (D-Wash.) and Justin Amash (R-Mich.).

Instead, the House passed, by a vote of 243-173, an amendment to the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) sponsored by Reps. Louie Gohmert (R-Texas), Jeff Landry (R-La.) and Scott Rigell (R-Va.) that affirmed U.S. citizens would not be denied habeas corpus rights.


thehill.com...



posted on May, 21 2012 @ 02:31 PM
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Originally posted by DrNotforhire
All I know under Bush

I could get a credit card with a 10K limit
and gas was 2.50$ a gallon



under obama
no credit
4.50$ a gallon
NDAA


Bull crap GAS, was $4.50 the summer of 2008

NDAA was just reaffirmed by the GOP who voted in mass to keep it -

95% -

The DEMS voted to get rid of it,
so...

good luck



posted on May, 21 2012 @ 02:31 PM
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Again, because it did not sink in the first time:


University of California $1,648,685
Goldman Sachs $1,013,091
Harvard University $878,164
Microsoft Corp $852,167
Google Inc $814,540
JPMorgan Chase & Co $808,799
Citigroup Inc $736,771
Time Warner $624,618
Sidley Austin LLP $600,298
Stanford University $595,716
National Amusements Inc $563,798
WilmerHale LLP $550,668
Columbia University $547,852
Skadden, Arps et al $543,539
UBS AG $532,674
IBM Corp $532,372
General Electric $529,855
US Government $513,308
Morgan Stanley $512,232
Latham & Watkins $503,295


Hahahahahaha. now what was all that crap you attempted to spread about corporations and supporting candidates? You are in denial... Deny ignorance.


Ron Paul 2012!



posted on May, 21 2012 @ 02:32 PM
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I never said 2008, I said UNDER Bush
hmmm you could be wrong though as well

edit on 21-5-2012 by DrNotforhire because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 21 2012 @ 02:33 PM
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It wasn’t chain mail…I provided a link.


Anyway, I could go line by line and debate every issue but it’s clear you love our POTUS and will distort his record into a model of brilliance for future presidents to follow, so I won’t waste my time. If you want 4 more years of his ‘great achievements’ then cast your vote. I don’t begrudge anyone their right to be wrong.

Everyone is free to enjoy their Kool Aid. I prefer mine with a lot more conservatism and a tea spoon of common sense.



posted on May, 21 2012 @ 02:35 PM
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The obama-aid has sunk in deep, who knows who they will actually pull the lever for this Nov. A lot of the obama lovers will prolly pull the lever for Romney but speak a big game here to save face... (no one likes to admit they are wrong)


I had a better quality of life when Bush was president.... That's a FACT!



posted on May, 21 2012 @ 02:38 PM
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Originally posted by DrNotforhire
reply to post by seabag
 


The obama-aid has sunk in deep, who knows who they will actually pull the lever for this Nov. A lot of the obama lovers will prolly pull the lever for Romney but speak a big game here to save face... (no one likes to admit they are wrong)


I had a better quality of life when Bush was president.... That's a FACT!


The reason your life is not better now is because Bush did such a bad job, things have not gotten
back to normal. That's a fact!

Europe is still crashing do to Bush's marvelous job, FACT



posted on May, 21 2012 @ 02:38 PM
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Originally posted by seabag
A question for Obama supporters - Are you still buying it?


Buying what?



After almost 4 years of lies and broken promises have any of you seen any change in Washington? Is your hope still alive? Was it "change you can believe in" or just more of the same...be honest?


ALL presidents have told lies and broken promises. If we used that criteria to elect our presidents, we wouldn't elect ANYONE. And as my signature used to read: I'd rather have 4 more years of Obama's "broken promises" than take the chance that the GOP might keep theirs...

Obama actually kept a LOT of his promises, but they don't count when you're trying to discredit him.



The fact that he has even one supporter left saddens me.


Well, then you're going to be REALLY bummed after this election!




If flip flopping is the greatest sin a political figure can commit then why don’t you Obama supporters get behind Ron Paul??


Oh, so NOW we see the real purpose of this thread: "Don't vote for Obama, vote for MY choice, Ron Paul!"

And I don't think flip-flopping is the greatest sin a political figure can commit.



I think the real reason people still support Obama is because they still believe he’s going to provide for their every need.


Well, you get to think whatever you want, even when you're wrong. That video represents exactly ONE person, and you're using your videos to color all Obama supporters as system leeches and cult worshipers. You couldn't be more wrong. They tried that propaganda in 2008, too, and it didn't work then, either.



What’s your justification for voting to re-elect Obama...


I don't justify my vote to anyone.



Do you think 4 more years of Obama is REALLY the answer to the problems facing America?


I think he's the best choice. He's certainly better than Ron Paul or Romney.
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posted on May, 21 2012 @ 02:39 PM
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Originally posted by DrNotforhire
reply to post by braindeadconservatives
 


I never said 2008, I said UNDER Bush
hmmm you could be wrong though as well

edit on 21-5-2012 by DrNotforhire because: (no reason given)


Are you conscious?

Your own Graph shows that the highest spike is 7/11 - 2008

UNDER BUSH


Duuuh



posted on May, 21 2012 @ 02:40 PM
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Obama... bottom line.

Obama signs NDAA into law


Ron Paul 2012!!!

Ron Paul pleads with supporters to fight CISPA and internet censorship
edit on 21-5-2012 by MsAphrodite because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 21 2012 @ 02:41 PM
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Originally posted by braindeadconservatives

Originally posted by DrNotforhire
All I know under Bush

I could get a credit card with a 10K limit
and gas was 2.50$ a gallon



under obama
no credit
4.50$ a gallon
NDAA


Bull crap GAS, was $4.50 the summer of 2008

NDAA was just reaffirmed by the GOP who voted in mass to keep it -

95% -

The DEMS voted to get rid of it,
so...

good luck




If you think the economy was worse before Obama took office then I suspect you’re watching entirely too much MSM these days!



According the the Department of Energy’s Energy Information Administration, gasoline prices are currently averaging about $3.87 per gallon. When Obama was elected in November 2008, they were at about $2.40 and had been falling rapidly.
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posted on May, 21 2012 @ 02:43 PM
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That was the fear that Obama was going to take over actually... Late 2008, think hard about it... Bush was in office for 8 years, and gas spiked his last quarter in office...

Obama has in office 3.5 years and we have terrible inflation,unemployment,fuel pricing...


and no credit cards


thanks Obummer

Romney 2012, I bet you my quality of life will be better under him


just a guess



posted on May, 21 2012 @ 02:43 PM
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Originally posted by MsAphrodite
reply to post by braindeadconservatives
 


Again, because it did not sink in the first time:


University of California $1,648,685
Goldman Sachs $1,013,091
Harvard University $878,164
Microsoft Corp $852,167
Google Inc $814,540
JPMorgan Chase & Co $808,799
Citigroup Inc $736,771
Time Warner $624,618
Sidley Austin LLP $600,298
Stanford University $595,716
National Amusements Inc $563,798
WilmerHale LLP $550,668
Columbia University $547,852
Skadden, Arps et al $543,539
UBS AG $532,674
IBM Corp $532,372
General Electric $529,855
US Government $513,308
Morgan Stanley $512,232
Latham & Watkins $503,295


Hahahahahaha. now what was all that crap you attempted to spread about corporations and supporting candidates? You are in denial... Deny ignorance.


Ron Paul 2012!


Enjoy Mitt Romney - Ron Paul


I suppose 100% bank backed is even better than Obama's backing,
filthy colleges



posted on May, 21 2012 @ 02:44 PM
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The GOP blocked the effort to repeal the indefinate detention clause this last week.


So answer me this oh smart liberals if the GOP has so much power why the hell do we have Obamacare?


Liberal BS.



posted on May, 21 2012 @ 02:46 PM
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Originally posted by DrNotforhire
All I know under Bush

I could get a credit card with a 10K limit
and gas was 2.50$ a gallon



under obama
no credit
4.50$ a gallon
NDAA




I do love when people show how little they understand how things work.

You know why there is no credit now? Because there was a CC with a 10K limit out there for everyone under Bush. You know why gas is 4.50? Because the dollar is so damaged that it isnt worth as much anymore.





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