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Why the secret rituals in college business fraternities?

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posted on May, 24 2012 @ 05:33 PM
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reply to post by protocolsoflove
 


The motto is deny ignorance. There is so much ignorance in regards to what people believe to be true, and what is actually happening in the real world.

Is it such a far stretch of the imagination to think that actual Masons would have an interest in discussing Masonry?
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posted on May, 24 2012 @ 05:57 PM
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Originally posted by protocolsoflove
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Some fraternities are blatant in their occult roots.



Occult
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For other uses, see Occult (disambiguation). The word occult comes from the Latin word occultus (clandestine, hidden, secret), referring to "knowledge of the hidden".[1] In the medical sense it is used to refer to a structure or process that is hidden, e.g. an "occult bleed"[2] may be one detected indirectly by the presence of otherwise unexplained anemia. The word has many uses in the English language, popularly meaning "knowledge of the paranormal", as opposed to "knowledge of the measurable",[3][4] usually referred to as science. The term is sometimes popularly taken to mean "knowledge meant only for certain people" or "knowledge that must be kept hidden", but for most practicing occultists it is simply the study of a deeper spiritual reality that extends beyond pure reason and the physical sciences.[5] The terms esoteric and arcane can have a very similar meaning, and the three terms are often interchangeable.[6][7] The term occult is also used as a label given to a number of magical organizations or orders, the teachings and practices taught by them, and to a large body of current and historical literature and spiritual philosophy related to this subject.


Since it seems you don't understand the word.



posted on May, 24 2012 @ 09:32 PM
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None the less it is still Christian in nature. The inverted pentacle pre-dates Christianity as well.

This is the logo (no circle around it):



reply to post by Sinny
 

Wow. I'm pretty sure I have just as much right to be on here as you do. You reference historical fiction, I'm still waiting to see any facts or real evidence to be posted by either of you. I'm posting facts I have from first hand information and first hand research that I've conducted.

You're behind a computer screen as well.

reply to post by protocolsoflove
 

He wasn't lying, he was just talking about the pentacle. He never mentioned the cross as he clearly quoted a specific part.

reply to post by yourmaker
 

Like what? Are you basing your opinion off of what non-members have said? How about getting your opinion from either first hand knowledge or research?

reply to post by protocolsoflove
 

You call me a liar, but if we were to throw the exact same words at you, you'd bitch til the sun comes up.

I have never lied nor misled anyone on the subject pertaining to Kappa Sigma or Freemasonry. Just because you cannot digest the truth doesn't mean its not just that...truth.
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posted on May, 24 2012 @ 10:45 PM
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Originally posted by network dude

Originally posted by protocolsoflove
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Some fraternities are blatant in their occult roots.



Occult
From Wikipedia,
the free encyclopedia
For other uses, see Occult (disambiguation). The word occult comes from the Latin word occultus (clandestine, hidden, secret), referring to "knowledge of the hidden".[1] In the medical sense it is used to refer to a structure or process that is hidden, e.g. an "occult bleed"[2] may be one detected indirectly by the presence of otherwise unexplained anemia. The word has many uses in the English language, popularly meaning "knowledge of the paranormal", as opposed to "knowledge of the measurable",[3][4] usually referred to as science. The term is sometimes popularly taken to mean "knowledge meant only for certain people" or "knowledge that must be kept hidden", but for most practicing occultists it is simply the study of a deeper spiritual reality that extends beyond pure reason and the physical sciences.[5] The terms esoteric and arcane can have a very similar meaning, and the three terms are often interchangeable.[6][7] The term occult is also used as a label given to a number of magical organizations or orders, the teachings and practices taught by them, and to a large body of current and historical literature and spiritual philosophy related to this subject.


Since it seems you don't understand the word.


Seems to apply pretty well to the inverted pentagram and skull and bones. Hey I think someone said something revealing about masonry in another thread you better go rebut it.



posted on May, 25 2012 @ 12:57 AM
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Maybe next you can come to my job and tell me how to fly since I'm probably just a low level operator.



posted on May, 25 2012 @ 01:02 AM
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Originally posted by KSigMason
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Maybe next you can come to my job and tell me how to fly since I'm probably just a low level operator.


You said it not me.



posted on May, 25 2012 @ 12:27 PM
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Well you seem to think you know more about my fraternal orders than I do even when what you say is wrong.



posted on May, 25 2012 @ 12:28 PM
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Originally posted by KSigMason
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Well you seem to think you know more about my fraternal orders than I do even when what you say is wrong.


You think you know everything when you're wrong.



posted on May, 25 2012 @ 02:17 PM
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Yes I'm wrong about the groups I'm a member of but you, a non-member, know more than my first hand experience with your second hand propaganda. I have yet to see anything from an "anti" that contradicts my experiences and personal research. You act as if us members are just blind morons who joined without doing any research. I find most "anti's" to be too arrogant to be logical our rational. You call us "low level" or "pawns" if we don't agree with you, but hold no true understanding.



posted on May, 25 2012 @ 02:20 PM
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Originally posted by KSigMason
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Yes I'm wrong about the groups I'm a member of but you, a non-member, know more than my first hand experience with your second hand propaganda. I have yet to see anything from an "anti" that contradicts my experiences and personal research. You act as if us members are just blind morons who joined without doing any research. I find most "anti's" to be too arrogant to be logical our rational. You call us "low level" or "pawns" if we don't agree with you, but hold no true understanding.



Yes I'm wrong about the groups I'm not a member of but you, a member, know more than my first hand experience with your second hand propaganda. I have yet to see anything from a mason that contradicts my experiences and personal research. You act as if us non-masons are just blind morons who haven't joined without doing any research. I find most masons to be too arrogant to be logical our rational. You call us "wrong" or "unintelligent" if we don't agree with you, but hold no true understanding.



posted on May, 25 2012 @ 02:23 PM
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You need to be brainwashed into accepting some sort of family relationship with the people you will lie and cheat for in the future. Buisness is all about taking as much as you can from others and keeping as much as you can for yoruself. When the time comes to break some rules these fraternal ties will be tugged and these good little idiots will fall in line. This is why America is in its current state.



posted on May, 25 2012 @ 02:28 PM
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Originally posted by Wertdagf
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You need to be brainwashed into accepting some sort of family relationship with the people you will lie and cheat for in the future. Buisness is all about taking as much as you can from others and keeping as much as you can for yoruself. When the time comes to break some rules these fraternal ties will be tugged and these good little idiots will fall in line. This is why America is in its current state.


Wert I love when you pop up in threads



posted on May, 25 2012 @ 02:56 PM
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You "Anti's" are ridiculous and unoriginal.

My experience is just that experience not propaganda. I have actually gone through the ceremonies, you haven't. I have covered the degrees and lectures, you haven't. You have no first hand experience with Masonry or Kappa Sigma since you are not a member. Anti's try to use fear and other deceitful tactics to defame good men - there is an overabundance of evidence of that in this forum.

I'll stand over here by Truth and you can continue to spread your malicious lies. I won't stop preaching the truth and countering your misinformation with fact.



posted on May, 25 2012 @ 03:00 PM
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Dont get me wrong... im all for a one world government and the destruction of religion.

I believe the only way to get everyone under control before the real world threatening tech comes out is to destroy the world economy and get everyone dependant on their governments.

If you can manipulate people from the shadows for the benifit of humanity while allowing them to do exactly what they want then thats a good plan.

The masons are just one cog in a very large machine. My disputes with their religious beliefs are exactly what make them usefull.
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posted on May, 25 2012 @ 03:04 PM
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Originally posted by KSigMason
reply to post by protocolsoflove
 

You "Anti's" are ridiculous and unoriginal.

My experience is just that experience not propaganda. I have actually gone through the ceremonies, you haven't. I have covered the degrees and lectures, you haven't. You have no first hand experience with Masonry or Kappa Sigma since you are not a member. Anti's try to use fear and other deceitful tactics to defame good men - there is an overabundance of evidence of that in this forum.

I'll stand over here by Truth and you can continue to spread your malicious lies. I won't stop preaching the truth and countering your misinformation with fact.


Haha you don't think use low lifes have access to your lectures as well? Silly



posted on May, 25 2012 @ 03:07 PM
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Not all of them. And from what I've seen the credibility and reliability of your sources is wanting.

Plus reading it is one thing versus giving it, and knowing it. Book knowledge only takes you so far. Like I said I have first hand experience in these matters.



posted on May, 25 2012 @ 03:26 PM
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Originally posted by KSigMason
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Not all of them. And from what I've seen the credibility and reliability of your sources is wanting.

Plus reading it is one thing versus giving it, and knowing it. Book knowledge only takes you so far. Like I said I have first hand experience in these matters.


That's right, blavatsky, manly p hall, albert pike, max heindel, the bible, edgar cayce, george washington, ben franklin, nicolai tesla

all persons whom I have sourced on multiple occasions here

you need to work on your lies



posted on May, 25 2012 @ 03:56 PM
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Just want to chime in here and say I am a member of the Pi Kappa Alpha Fraternity and have been since 1992. I am a little older now and dont really hang around with those guys any longer however I still consider myself a member. I dont think it was any sort of brain washing cult. And in fact to some degree christian values were pushed aside from the parties and drinking that is. The rituals and hazing are all part of the deal. The hazing was mostly meant to see if you had the guts and the loyalty to stick around. The weak hearted or those that were just looking for a place to part would leave and quit early. The guys that you knew were going to have your back later if you needed them stuck it out till the end and became members. This is common among most good fraternities. There are some that just let anyone in to get their dues. They are not strong and they do not have the kind of comeradery that others do. Yes there was a lot of symbolism in the initiation process and in meetings but keep in mind that the Pi Kappa Alpha fraternity was founded in 1868 in Virginia. I am not a mason though and I dont plan on being one but I do know how your typical college Fraternity works and I think they are a very good experience for your average college student. I learned a lot about organizing, about fund raising, about being a part of something bigger than myself and I learned about loyalty and the kind of loyalty that lasts a very long time.



posted on May, 25 2012 @ 03:57 PM
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Oh and FYI.. Calling a Fraternity a "Frat" is first off a dead giveaway that someone has never been in a fraternity and it is somewhat of a derogatory term towards a Fraternity.



posted on May, 25 2012 @ 06:21 PM
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Blavatsky was not a Mason and her quotes are irrelevant to Masonry. Masonic Light has already touched up on the MPH quote. Memory serves me right, you quoted something from the Taxil Hoax, not a legitimate Pike quote and the one legitimate one was taken out of context as you should really post the sentences before to get a much better understanding. I could care less what Heindel said. Cayce is irrelevant. You pulled a fabricated quote about George Washington that has long been documented as a lie made up years after George's death. I didn't see any Franklin quote nor a Tesla quote that would be relevant to anything in this thread or other threads we've been in.

I'm not a liar so I need not to work on them. You're the one using deceitful tactics.



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