How much longer will we be able to keep on living the way we are living? Consuming foods full of GMO's, the youth of today really doesn't care about anything else other than what's going on on Facebook or twitter etc. How much longer will we be able to keep on polluting the world with our waste? There's already 6 billion people in the world and that number will just continue to increase and so will the demand for more electricity, fuel and food.

I feel as if most of the population are just "livestock" for lack of a better word. Livestock are domesticated animals raised in an agricultural setting to produce commodities. In order to "survive" we are required to have a job, and thus we produce "commodities" those can be electronics, or any consumer products or services. Which go to stores to be sold. Thanks to mass consumerism those commodities are usually sold fast enough, and that only means more profit for the people at the top that hold the real power. We are just livestock for the people that control everything.

This has been going on for hundreds of years now, if not thousands and people feel that this is the normal way of living. We have obviously evolved from our days when we were hunters and gatherers, but in a weird way I think that our ancestors had it better than us today. They lived day to day, they were worried about catching that day's food and gathering supplies. They weren't worried sick about whether or not they were going to have enough money to pay off the mortgage on time. Or if they were going to be laid off. One could say that our ancestors lived life to the fullest, compared to the system of today that is controlled by a handful of people.

I wish people would wake up, and realize that there is much more to life than just living to work in order to keep up with the latest culture trends. I know that a lot of people will say that they work because they need to put food on their table, and I agree with that 100%. But it's only that way because we are hostages to the system. Everything is just intertwined that is really difficult to explain.

I don't think we can last much longer with our current way of living.

When are we going to stop complaining and actually do something about it? I have already educated myself on how to grow seeds and be able to survive off the grid. I also have supplies & tools ready. Might as well get off the grid now instead of waiting for the change that will never come, because let's face it. 90% of the population are livestock that have been domesticated in order to produce commodities for the elite.

The word" Socialist" might be on my avatar, but please don't be fooled. No system of government can fix the mess that we have created for ourselves. Big change is needed but that will never come I'm afraid. Everyone is so concerned about what's going on with Facebook and what the latest "tweets" are. Then you have the whole Liberal/Conservative conundrum that people like to go back and forth with. Then you get called a radical if you offer any solution to the current problems simply because your views don't fit in with theirs.

There's no going back now.


Good luck!

It will all get fixed in Europe. They have more important things to worry about than facebook or twitter. The Europeans are the ones that will fix things.

The system will fail at some point, pretty much most of the ATS users know this.

Pretty much most of the people that watch there X factor and so on know this but do not choose to accept it.

To survive you must leave the system, which is very difficult.

2 more years I give us

I tend to think about these things, being recently wakened to the whole food system, I walk down the street and see people so differently now, knowing I was there just a few years ago. Its like being in a glass box, witnessing the craziness unfold around you. People complaining of their newest disease, ongoing health problems and eventually cancer, but not actually understanding the possible root of the problem, and when light is shed on the possibility that choices they make every day could be the cause of their misery, they don;t want to hear it.

People complaining about their weight, people complaining about the cost of basic essentials. It's amazing to realise as a person you can research and have control of these things if you put in the effort. People are blinded by ignorance (and MsM)

How long can we keep living like this? It all has a cost and eventually people will realise what the cost is. It's definitely not going to happen any time soon. In fact I don't believe you will ever get 100% converts. Humans by nature don't comprehend long term effects, only living for sort term goals.

It's gotten to the point where I can't spare the energy worrying about the general populace. What they do with their lives, what they eat, how they consume; do what you want and GG when civilisation falls over. I do my part in my community, I make sure I put my money where my mouth is and support local, organic and small business. I live how I believe I should live and make sure my lineage will learn from our mistakes.

Unfortunately I will have to keep living plugged into the grid for a few more years until I am able to afford my dream 'off the grid' property but then, I'll have a measure of freedom

Well muse, it seems you have it all figured out.
The average person is just that, a commodity.
A bankroll. A taxable income.

The average person is taught, from birth, to be a part of the "system".
Taught that they HAVE to get an education and they HAVE to get a job.
There is no other way to live.
Both ideas are fully sponsored by the gov't.
Why?
Because with an education you can make more money, and spend more...
Wait for it...wait....and PAY more taxes!


Whoever thought up this entire scheme is devilishly genius.
Because at this rate and time more children are being taught how to conform.
Rather than resist.


But to answer your original question...how much longer can we live like this?
Depends on how stupid we allow ourselves to get.
And right now, it's pretty bad.

Its kinda scary, at some point we come on a crossroad of problems with billions and billions of people.
I don't know, what will happen but it won't be pretty for sure.

What will happen in a pool with too many fish, at some point all the fish ate everything in the pool.
I guess then most fish will die, some survive and start over again. At least we got a big lesson learned (hopefully) and don't do it again.

Look at the picture beneath my comment.

Time is accelerating. Technology is exponentially accelerating. Not only is computing power getting better and better and faster and faster - it is also getting smaller and smaller. We are caught in a spiral heading towards a Singularity. Think in terms of humanity evolving into a type of cyborg creature. We are well underway into this mechanical/biological metamorphosis. Twitter and Facebook and smart phones in our pocket is just the beginning. The "training wheels" as it were.

But your initial question still remains. When will reach the "crunch point"? We are still biological and part of a living planet. What will happen to the Earth and all of our infrastructure. Things seem to be getting better and worse at the same time. It is a paradox and it is very hard to determine in which way things are going to ultimately play out. I do suspect a big surprise in the near future - when "business as usual" will either no longer be an option - or it will be radically changed. A major overhaul and system reboot. The FEMA camp and "New World Order" scenarios may play into this somehow...

What can the average "awake" person do then.

Should I take me son out of school ?

Should I leave my job clear all debt find a small holding and raise animals.

Live of the grid.

It is a hard choice to make.