This disturbs me for 3 reasons, page 1


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reply posted on 20-5-2012 @ 09:46 PM by MagesticEsoteric
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That 1st picture is just a little too much......

I miss the ol' days.....


.....SIGH..........

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reply posted on 20-5-2012 @ 09:48 PM by UFCG2012AFHS
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I couldn't help but think the following thought for the guy in the first pic aka. groperapist. "Mmmmm, yeah, I almost got the nuts..." Sir, could you please move to your left? "Oh yeah, there we go... ballsack times!" Ok sir, you're good to go, NEXT!
Ohw, hang on, am I next?!?!?! MOMMMYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!

It's just a logical application of US policy in foreign countries. 9/11 has allowed the US government to dictate its rules as to how domestic security should be managed and which tools should be used as well as to what is or isn't a terrorist threat. The US enforces those policies on international aviation organizations that implement them and by such force other countries to follow the US's lead in ridiculous "security" spending and violating human rights in the name of "often fabricated" terrorism.
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reply posted on 20-5-2012 @ 10:55 PM by magma
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The irony in your comment is the fact that when tshf the people who bag the government out will also be the people who have their hands out asking for food and water.

whinging and complaining

Everybody has got a complaint right?

Tis a double edged sword


reply posted on 20-5-2012 @ 11:03 PM by Afterthought
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The best thing you can do for you and your family is to stop living in fear of dying and being in the wrong place at the wrong time. This happens everyday on the road. I was in the wrong place at the wrong time in my car and my neck now has chronic pain. Should the guy I hit who couldn't wait to do a u-turn be labeled a terriorist? Maybe ALL people who suffer from lack of patience and common courtesy be deemed terrorists. I think they're more of a threat than someone who's decided to blow up an airplane.

Bottom line is that nobody ever has a right to touch you in certain areas. Children should ALWAYS remember this and know there are NO exceptions! If we allow this to go on, we've failed every child who will ever be flying to visit grandma for the summer or for any other reason. We have a right to travel freely about without being violated by strangers.

Tragedies happen every day. Crazies enter all sorts of places to hurt people. It sucks when you're in the wrong place at the wrong time, but we cannot allow ourselves to be frisked everywhere in the name of keeping people safe. I really don't want to get felt up before going to the mall, the grocery store, or anywhere else for that matter.
See what it can morph into if people keep living in fear?


reply posted on 20-5-2012 @ 11:32 PM by Talvar
Originally posted by magma
Originally posted by nimbinned
Originally posted by magma
As long as it stops my family being put at risk from extreme groups of people who aim to kill and injure innocent people, then I vote yes!

I say no to scrotum groping though. But some will like it.


Was your first paragraph sarcasm ? I hope so for your benefit.

If you are for real then I am gobsmacked. Did you register here accidentally instead of facebook ?

Do some research please on this issue and get back to me. I would be happy to debate this subject with you then.

Peace Out


If you have nothing to hide you also have nothing to fear



Is it possible anyone actually believes this? I will allow two others to make the counterargument much more eloquently than I can....

One of the most haunting impressions of my Soviet childhood was stories my grandparents told about the Black Raven. As a small boy, I was terrified of this polished and poised creature of the night, usually sighted as it crouched to swoop upon an unsuspecting victim and carry him away, never to be seen again.

The Black Raven, however, was no avian figment of the human mind. Rather, this secret-police sedan — named for the Russian symbol of death — was a very real fixture of life in the Soviet Union of the 1930s.

Those who saw the Raven stop outside their building of communal flats contemplated last words to families as they waited tensely for the dreaded knock. Its reverberations from another door brought a macabre sense of relief, lasting only until the Raven’s next appearance. Such was the abject terror of living in the claws of despotism. Unsurprisingly, it wasn’t tempered by that infamous platitude: “If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear.”

How very different from a life in America, secured from fear by the assurances of individual liberty.

But in the 17 years since I became an American, we’ve been averting our gaze as these sacred assurances slowly waned. With enactment of the 2012 defense authorization bill, we look away again as Congress exposes Americans to the specter of prison without charge or trial and smothers that basic right of free citizens to invoke the law against their government.


Source

And

Too many wrongly characterize the debate as "security versus privacy." The real choice is liberty versus control. Tyranny, whether it arises under threat of foreign physical attack or under constant domestic authoritative scrutiny, is still tyranny. Liberty requires security without intrusion, security plus privacy. Widespread police surveillance is the very definition of a police state. And that's why we should champion privacy even when we have nothing to hide.


This is actually from a comment to this article which is well worth a glance.
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