Congressmen Seek To Lift Propaganda Ban

Originally posted by AuranVector

Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
reply to post by longjohnbritches

 

I severly disagree. I don't think we have a covert communist agenda(which encourages atheism), I think we have a protocol of zionism agenda. Has anyone read those protocols? Why do you think europeans persecuted jews everywhere they went?

Hitler may have seemed evil and he DID hate communism, but national socialism is definitely not as bad as either capitalism or communism. When I say national socialism, I mean right wing socialism such as love of religion/spiritualism and respect for your nationality. It was the holocaust which painted a terrible picture of that system.

The ptb have DELIBERATELY SABOTAGED both socialism and communism and unfortunately millions throughout the world died in vain fighting FOR SLAVERY! How crazy is that??

This is such a complicated topic. I don't have time to argue with you. Marxism & Communism are essentially Jewish creations.

Yes it is a complicated topic and normally I avoid talking about it cause like you said it takes too much explaining and most people are too brainwashed of fake history to actually care about reconsidering what they already know.

I don't really care if jews wrote the communist manifesto or not. The fact the authors were jews is just icing on the cake. I read enough of it to comprehend it is BS of the highest order. It calls socialism as a transitionary period whereby everything is nationalised by the state in order to achieve communism which is a stateless and classless society.

In other words they seem to falsely and covertly associate communism to anarchy which is nonsense. A classless and stateless society is exactly anarchy, which should be absolute right wing ideology rather than left wing. Remember the further to the right you go the smaller the government and the further to the left you go the bigger the government. This alone proves marx and engels were idiots or more likely part of the zionist conspiracy to misinform at every corner.

Then they go on and on to demonise national socialism while more or less downplaying stalin who killed many times more what hitler did. Any person who does at least modest research into the above topics will see that I am correct.

This isn't the first we have heard from these two "congressmen" on this subject. I refer everyone to the Smith-Thornberry Amendment to the 2009 Defense Authorization Bill which is commented on by the Heritage Foundation in this article

If you read the article I hope you have a strong stomach, I found the open adoration of propaganda and political lies revolting. For the faint of heart, here are a few excerpts detailing changes that would be brought about by the amendment:

the Smith–Thornberry amendment (H.A. 5) to the 2009 Defense Authorization Bill (H.R. 5658)...This amendment would require the creation of a comprehensive interagency strategy for strategic communications and public diplomacy, a description of the specific roles of the State and Defense Departments, and a detailed assessment of the viability of a new Center for Strategic Communication.

Specifically, the legislation seeks to bolster strategic communication through three different proposals:

• National Strategy. The amendment would require the president to develop a comprehensive interagency strategy for strategic communication and public diplomacy by the end of 2009...

• Defining Roles. The amendment also requires the president to describe the respective roles of the State and Defense Departments—the two organizations most involved in strategic communication...

• Center for Strategic Communication. Finally, the amendment requires the Bush Administration to assess the Defense Science Board’s recommendation to establish an independent, nonprofit research organization for strategic communication. Modeled after the RAND Corporation and National Endowment for Democracy, the Center for Strategic Communication would serve as a research center for new, often private sector, techniques and technologies, as well as a focal point for different agencies to exchange common concerns and exchange best practices. Finally, the information gathered on regional trends, public opinion, and on local cultures, values,and religions could enhance the decision-making of our nation’s policymakersText

So, it seems this worked so well over seas, they figure it's too good to waste on just foreigners.

The news outlets have had government assets shaping the news since ww2. In the mid 70's they amitted to having over 200 CIA people in control of the news.

Originally posted by yourmaker
so....when does the revolution begin?

it would be completely justified if we establish change in the government protocol.

government doesn't have to be a big bad evil entity..

I do think this will be in the hands of the US military and allied forces.
One way or the other.
Be good to the troops.

Originally posted by guitarplayer
The news outlets have had government assets shaping the news since ww2. In the mid 70's they amitted to having over 200 CIA people in control of the news.

Very interesting. Doyou have a link or source?
Humm right after they got rid of John and Dick hmmm.
thanks ljb

I dont get it?
they lye all the time in the news.

So! why let us know they will lye?
are they trying to Antagonise us?

for me this says clealy that they WONT to start a civil war?

reply to post by silent thunder


The populace has been engaged in open psychological warfare for longer than I've been alive. Public Service Announcements and much of what is reported as news in the media technically fall under the technical definition of propaganda. Every time you see a U.S. Navy commercial that calls itself a "global force for good", it is propaganda. It's just that its not working so well these days, because most people are learning the tricks behind it thanks to the internet. That's the real threat, but they can't just destroy the internet. So, they have to crank up the power to the propaganda machine. That's what this is about.

Originally posted by buddha
I dont get it?
they lye all the time in the news.

So! why let us know they will lye?

Now that information is spreading rapidly among the populous, they may be covering themselves if they get called on it. If I were them, I'd try to regulate the internet so that only approved corporate entities could operate websites.

reply to post by longjohnbritches


It was the Church committee.
carlbernstein.com...
www.cpj.org...

Here are just a couple of links search (cia church news media) and see what comes up

reply to post by guitarplayer


Searching "CIA Church Committee news media" brought up Operation Mockingbird. The article contains leads. The 1st Google link goes to the CIA's website, A Look Back … The Church Committee Meets.

Originally posted by Duamutef9
reply to post by silent thunder

 

It's just that its not working so well these days, because most people are learning the tricks behind it thanks to the internet. That's the real threat, but they can't just destroy the internet. So, they have to crank up the power to the propaganda machine. That's what this is about.

Actually the truth of the matter is, That they desire the mass confusion and disinformation that the internet provides. Make no mistake about it, it was intended to be this way. Otherwise, it never would have been allowed to occur. The internet just gives them the resources to follow, or group together individuals who are deemed a threat to the police state. It also provides them with the tools to pollute the minds of the youth. Porn and other filth is now just a click away. Read between the lies my friend. ~$heopleNation

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Church uncovered the MKULTRA cia experiments and I do berleive that Helms shreaded thousands of documents on the MKULTRA and other cia covert operation on the US public.

Smith-Thornberry again in 2010

Whose title states:

A BILL To modernize authorities to fight and win the war of ideas against violent extremist ideologies over the internet and other mediums of information, and for other purposes. 1 Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representa2 tives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, 3 SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE. 4 This Act may be cited as the ‘‘The Smith-Mundt 5 Modernization Act of 2010’’.

For more information:

The original Smith-Mundt legislation

The Smith-Mundt Act- A legislative History

A 2009 Washington Post article detailing the military take-over of the US's "strategic communications".


And finally a 2010 report commissioned by the Foreign Relations Committee on the "Broadcasting Board of Governors". Who are SUPPOSED to be running the whole "strategic communication" show. Which states:

Tasked with ensuring the U.S. message gets through is the Broadcasting Board of Governors. The Board oversees the operations of the Voice of America, Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty, Radio Free Asia, Middle East Broadcasting Network and the Office of Cuba Broadcasting, which together broadcast in some 60 languages through radio, TV and the Internet. The Board consists of eight members nominated by the President (four Republicans and four Democrats) with the Secretary of State as the ninth member. Congress originally established the Board in the mid-1990’s to ensure our broadcasting operations were free from political pressures from either end of Pennsylvania Avenue. After 15 years, however, it has become clear that the BBG, rather than functioning as a political “firewall,” has become a political “football” as Board membership nominations have become enmeshed and blocked due to partisan politics. The Board has not been fully staffed since 2004, and the chairmanship has been vacant since 2008.

Just my thoughts- An empty house is easy to subvert.

An interesting DARPA request for bids to "explore the use of social media for strategic communication."

www.fbo.gov...

Want to see who wants to control what you hear, see and think?
www.bbg.gov...

Walter Isaacson
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Walter Isaacson resigned as Board Chair on January 27, 2012. The position is vacant pending a nomination by the President and confirmation by the U.S. Senate.

He quit his job to protect his propaganda story of Steve Jobs of Apple Computers. When Apple came under attack for its overseas business practice and Steve Jobs having aids Walter Isaacson who wrote Steve Jobs autobiography and created his propaganda life and hid the real secret of the deal between Bush and Pelosi to make Pelosi rich through all her shares in Apple Computers Inc. They made that deal to stop all the investigations of the Bush Administration. Apple is the most valuable stock on the stock market. And became that right after the Bush Pelosi meeting. Steve Jobs went into Apple Computers Inc and changed the name to Apple Inc. Stopped all research and changed Apple over to the Ipod, Ipad, Iphones and so on.

Walter Isaacson is also President and CEO of the Aspen Institute.

en.wikipedia.org...

Victor H. Ashe

Ashe is a member of the Governance Committee and the Strategy and Budget Committee and serves as Corporate Board Vice Chair of Radio Free Asia.

en.wikipedia.org...

Hillary Rodham Clinton

On January 21, 2009, Hillary Rodham Clinton became the 67th Secretary of State of the United States.

en.wikipedia.org...

Michael Lynton

Lynton is the BBG’s interim presiding governor and also serves as a member of the Governance Committee.

en.wikipedia.org...

Michael Lynton is the CEO of Sony Corporation of America and Chairman and CEO of Sony Pictures Entertainment. Thats the same Sony who got hacked by Anonymous. Did you ever see what happened after the news died down? Well they hired a guy from The Department of Homeland Security Philip Reitinger. This guy served during the cold war as a spy on Russia. And don't forget the Anonymous hack was done by the FBI's own Lulzsec.

Susan McCue

McCue is co-chair of the Communications and Outreach Committee, chair of its subcommittee on Innovation and is a member of the Governance Committee. She is also Vice Chair of the Board of Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty.

Shes in charge of the One Campaign. A campaign named after that new rich guy who was part owner of Facebook spy machine when it went public. Bono of U2 there song "One". And the One Campign is tied to Millennium Development Goals. Which is tied to the UN, The World Bank, IMF, G8 and many others.

Michael P. Meehan

Meehan is co-chair of the Strategy and Budget Committee and co-chair of the Communications and Outreach Committee and its subcommittee on Global Internet Freedom. He also serves as Chair of the Board of Radio Free Asia.

www.politico.com...

Dennis Mulhaupt

Mulhaupt serves as the Chair of the BBG Governance Committee and as Chair of the Board of Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty.

I find his linkedin history interesting.
www.linkedin.com...

University of Cambridge MPhil, International Relations/Criminology 1978 – 1981 University of Southern California AB, International Relations/Psychology 1973 – 1977

Dana Perino

Perino is co-chair of the Communications and Outreach Committee and its subcommittee on Global Internet Freedom.

From President Bush Administration to Fox News and the official Propaganda board of the US government.
en.wikipedia.org...

S. Enders Wimbush

Wimbush is co-chair of the Strategy and Budget Committee and serves as Chair of the Board of the Middle East Broadcasting Networks, Inc.

www.gmfus.org...
Interesting DOD and DOD contractor Booz Allen Hamilton.

Prior to joining Hudson, Mr. Wimbush spent 10 years in the private sector with Booz Allen Hamilton and Science Applications International Corporation directing analyses of future security environments for both government and corporate clients, with special emphasis on the dynamics of nuclear proliferation, Asia’s changing strategic environment, and energy competition. Of particular note, for 30 years Mr. Wimbush has consulted for the Director, Office of Net Assessment of the Office of the U.S. Secretary of Defense, where he has directed dozens of exercises and studies on the character of the emerging competition on future security landscapes. In the private sector, Mr. Wimbush has directed international risk and opportunity assessments for a number of large corporations. His experience includes 12 years as an expatriate in Europe and extended travel for business, research, network building, and consulting in Asia, the Middle East, and states of the former USSR.

Originally posted by Jean Paul Zodeaux

Originally posted by silent thunder
reply to post by TKDRL

 

The problem with it, in my opinion, is that it legalizes government-sanctioned lying. Yeah, they've always lied. Now they can do it freely, openly, and proudly. Moreover, they can earmark huge budgets to bring to bear on the issue of how to influence public opinion.

It's basically a declaration of open psychological warfare on the populace.

Because the Constitution never expressly, nor even implicitly prohibited the federal government from lying, they, of course, view this as a Constitutional right to do so...to lie. This is why Feds Embrace Lying in Response to Public Records Request. This is why the federal government lied about the debt crises. This is why the call the Federal Reserve a bank. This is why they have continually lied about American wars, why they continually lie about the national debt, why they lie, and lie, and lie, and lie, because they can.

AND THEY DO IT UNDER THE GUIS OF NATIONAL SECURITY.

Do you really think that you are not already swimming in an ocean of State sponsored propaganda at the behest of multinational corporation? Here comes dystopian Capitalism fascism.

And the best part of all is we the tax payers, are paying them to lie to us.
And while their getting us up the you know what, they are partying on like the good little fascists they are, with the best healthcare, food, etc money can buy.


Also, in occultic style fashion, they also have to clue the public in on what their doing so that they will bare no responsibility, or karma since we have been told, and will allow it.


Thanks a heap chumps.

Originally posted by Jean Paul Zodeaux

Originally posted by silent thunder
reply to post by TKDRL

 

The problem with it, in my opinion, is that it legalizes government-sanctioned lying. Yeah, they've always lied. Now they can do it freely, openly, and proudly. Moreover, they can earmark huge budgets to bring to bear on the issue of how to influence public opinion.

It's basically a declaration of open psychological warfare on the populace.

Because the Constitution never expressly, nor even implicitly prohibited the federal government from lying, they, of course, view this as a Constitutional right to do so...to lie. This is why Feds Embrace Lying in Response to Public Records Request. This is why the federal government lied about the debt crises. This is why the call the Federal Reserve a bank. This is why they have continually lied about American wars, why they continually lie about the national debt, why they lie, and lie, and lie, and lie, because they can.

This bothers me very much.

It seems the fact that citizens are gaining more knowledge through means other than a television is threatening to our precious 'democracy'. But until something happens, this propaganda will indeed sway the people they intend to. I don't think they're out to change the view of those of us who know that they are poison, but rather make the "politically active" continue to fight each other over the distance of their piss, which blinds the ones who could make a huge difference if they knew the truth as well; or at least refused to take part in this.

It's sickening how much they do already. Recently it's been gay marriage, race issues, Greece's economy, trials, all wrapped up in showing us which president sucks more at any given time. It doesn't matter how 'right' the presidential candidates are (albeit some more than others), they will all utilize this even more openly than they do now. It isn't only politicians that will do so, but businesses (who we all know really run sh** around here) will be free to advertise and showcase anything they have the money to. And we're forced to support it, no matter how directly, through means like taxes. Even responding to the media's mirage by speaking out, occupying, protesting, etc., feeds the beast.

But hey, at least we're free right?

reply to post by silent thunder


What is even more troubling is that it has bipartisan sponsorship. So you see, kids, they are ALL owned by the corporate overlords.