Congressmen Seek To Lift Propaganda Ban

Originally posted by queenofswords
Why are so many of these changes to old Acts now inserting the words "or domestic" into them? Makes you wonder.

I shudder to think... they have removed the Pro-Western leaders from several Islamic countries, all the while telling protesters they are terrorists and treating our returning vets like they are threats to the homeland. Very creepy stuff. Not to mention assassinating US citizens without a trial.

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
I could not find any right wing spin on this at all....so I am inclined to think that there is a Soros component here.

edit on 21-5-2012 by ThirdEyeofHorus because: (no reason given)

Aka, if you don't like the truth...change or dismiss it.
Sounds like your on board the propaganda train.

(hint: right wing is pro-nationalistic propaganda..always have been..wheres your flag pin boy!)

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I should hate this incidentally...just having some minor issues committing to full anger due to a touch of realism tempering my idealism.
I should stop posting in this thread before I start sounding like a lunatic

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
I shudder to think... they have removed the Pro-Western leaders from several Islamic countries, all the while telling protesters they are terrorists and treating our returning vets like they are threats to the homeland. Very creepy stuff. Not to mention assassinating US citizens without a trial.

and thats the other realism I am haunted with that makes me think twice before fully condoning this measure. (other side of the coin)

reply to post by EarthCitizen07


I think you're insane and ditto for the other two posters who starred you.

I don't care about the TOS here.

I care about denying ignorance.

If you think that naziism is "not bad" then wait until you're being fed to a furnace.

Originally posted by silent thunder
reply to post by TKDRL

 

The problem with it, in my opinion, is that it legalizes government-sanctioned lying. Yeah, they've always lied. Now they can do it freely, openly, and proudly. Moreover, they can earmark huge budgets to bring to bear on the issue of how to influence public opinion.

It's basically a declaration of open psychological warfare on the populace.

The American people are lied to every single day by their politicians and tv and print media about agendas specific to that media platform, IE FOX NEWS etc. It's time that these folks were held to task, and reminded that this law banning propaganda is in place.

What about shows like Bill Maher, Rush Limbaugh, and Glenn Beck? These are incendiary shows based entirely on propaganda from one side or the other.

reply to post by silent thunder

If this kind of law passes, then everyone should know that our allegedly "elected" supposed "representatives" are nothing more than traitors. I see where this is going, the government can say ANYTHING they want, trump up any charge, falsely accuse anyone of anything for any reason and destroy lives, families and whole communities (by association), to further their unethical, immoral and illegal agendas. With marshal law already in place in Montreal (bill 78), Greece going batsh*t, Spain, Italy and Portugal falling next, France on the edge, the UK slipping under debt wave, I can't see the US being far behind. This legislation is like a preemptive strike against US citizens. All I can say is hope for the best but prepare for the worst.

Cheers - Dave

Here, are a few quotes from: War, Propaganda and the Media

"Next the statesmen will invent cheap lies, putting the blame upon the nation that is attacked, and every man will be glad of those consience-soothing falsities, and will diligently study them, and refuse to examine any refutations of them; and thus he will by and by convince himself that the war is just, and will thank god for the better sleep he enjoys after this process of grotesque self-deception."

--- Mark Twain, The Mysterious Stranger, 1916, Ch. 9
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ "1. Decontextualizing violence: Focusing on the irrational without looking at the reasons for unresolved conflicts and polarization.

2. Armageddon: Presenting violence as inevitible, omitting alternatives."

reply to post by silent thunder


S&F A very important topic. These %^&*$# are sneaking this thru as quietly as possible? No surprise there.

You could argue that we are heavily propagandized already. This will make it worse.

I believe TPTB are preparing for civil war & WWIII. War is always a great distraction from a collapsing economy and a great cover for "culling" the population.

Those who make the mistake of questioning things openly will be accused of treason. No, I don't think an accusation of anything is even necessary anymore.

Remember what the open Internet was like in the 90's? What happened? The corporations took over -- four zillion ads everywhere. Search function limited to "approved" sites.

Make no mistake, everything you do on the Net is being tracked. There is no privacy at all.

reply to post by The Sword


amen. With you.

Just like people on here sometimes realise…
When you’re arguments are ****
Lie
Distract
And be generally unfair

Seems the American government has (unfortunately) at least, caught onto this same strategy. And what a wonderful way to help the economy in times of recession (i.e. give it all to marketing guys, on 50k plus salaries).

at some point i feel the u.s. taxpayer has to just quit paying well-intentioned taxes to an odious unconstitutional gubberment.

Originally posted by WhoKnows100
Communist Goals (1963) Congressional Record--Appendix, pp. A34-A35 January 10, 1963

15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the United States.
 
16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions by claiming their activities violate civil rights.
 
17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.

21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV, and motion pictures.

24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.
 
25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.
 
26. Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."
 
27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity, which does not need a "religious crutch."
 
28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state."
 
www.rense.com...

This move is simply formalising what's been allowed to occur in every western nation of Christendom. If you cannot see that society's beliefs, in the absence of faithfulness and obedience to God, are indoctrinated through every form of media, then you will not understand the time in which you've been created to live. The question that all need to examine is why and how the descendants of Christian grandparents and great-grandparents have been made Godless through something as seemingly innocuous as media. The answer is simple - you are what you eat. Your mind becomes a slave to either this world or God. How to break it? Ask the Lord. The above was just fifty years ago, and all has been accomplished by propaganda and indoctrination. That should scare the living daylights out of sensible people, yet the love of the world is too strong for most to act upon the truth. Understand the time in which you live, understand how others made you believe what you do, understand how others got you to fight for wickedness as a "right" instead of a "wrong". The truth hurts, but God is there to heal and to save. The first step comes when He allows you to start seeing propaganda, which leads you to start questioning the origins of your own beliefs... and to those who learned to value and love truth, those very same will finally understand what it means when you read "God is truth".

I would say they have been very successful in destroying traditional values. I am not a Christian or a member of any organized religion, but you have just outlined what has been happening to US society for decades. Really disturbing.

Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
reply to post by longjohnbritches

 

I severly disagree. I don't think we have a covert communist agenda(which encourages atheism), I think we have a protocol of zionism agenda. Has anyone read those protocols? Why do you think europeans persecuted jews everywhere they went?

Hitler may have seemed evil and he DID hate communism, but national socialism is definitely not as bad as either capitalism or communism. When I say national socialism, I mean right wing socialism such as love of religion/spiritualism and respect for your nationality. It was the holocaust which painted a terrible picture of that system.

The ptb have DELIBERATELY SABOTAGED both socialism and communism and unfortunately millions throughout the world died in vain fighting FOR SLAVERY! How crazy is that??

This is such a complicated topic. I don't have time to argue with you. Marxism & Communism are essentially Jewish creations.

Originally posted by PrincessofSwords
This makes me physically sick..
I will take every single "fact" I hear as a falsity from now on, until it can be proven otherwise.

This is bad... really bad.
Our 18 and younger generation are already f***ed, this will only make things worse...

I am 22.... my generation is supposed to redeem the masses....
Little off topic.. if anyone reads their natal charts...

Uranus is in 08 Degrees Capricorn. You, and your peer group as well, seek out practical solutions to a changing society's attitudes to customs, traditions and authority structures. Your logical and orderly manner of dealing with these matters will result in permanent and carefully planned, but sweeping, reforms.

Neptune is in 13 Degrees Capricorn. You, and your entire generation, will idealize work, practicality and the ability to attain reasonable goals. But, because you will also stress the need to be selfless and giving, you may find it difficult to attain your goals unless you have lowered your expectations on all fronts.

Pluto is in 15 Degrees Scorpio. For your entire generation, this is a period of intense research and discovery in areas that were heretofore considered mysterious, remote or taboo. The root causes for many complex occurrences will be unearthed due to the intensity and thoroughness of the search.

They know this.
They know the energies that we have been born under.
And are using unnatural means to suppress our natural instincts.

Thank the heavens for all of you...

We will ring loud until our silence deafens ears.

Don't put too much stock in this astrological info -- it's based on the Tropical zodiac, instead of the sidereal.

Originally posted by darkbake
Apparently, we are entering a new phase of the elite's operation. Between this and the 20,000 drones being released on American soil, and the ability to detain U.S. citizens, they seem to be preparing for something. I can't believe how outrageous some of the things the government is doing are - it is like they are openly working against the people nowadays.

I believe that's 30,000 drones by 2020 (less than eight years from now), if my source is correct.

The arrogant enemies within have reached a point where they no longer even care about hiding their agenda. It started with small steps in order to see if the $heople would notice. Then they take another step, and then another. Yep, you guessed it, the $heople didn't notice.

Not that it's a suprise, they were much too busy slaving for their over bloated mortgages / rentals and let's not forget following the media fabricated, talentless idiot Kim Kardashian's latest tweets. Oh yes, the masters of puppets know all too well the masses of dunces that they are dealing with. Their dumbing down of the herds is such an unimaginable sized monster that it reaches it's slimey infection into every aspect of their lives. They have done their work well. Not with just their propaganda, but with their temptations and the degenerates inside the entertainment industry to push it so eventually it's accepted as the norm.

First these greedy old creatures start with the youth, because they know how much easier they are misled. Then they continue with their fear propaganda machine which is focused on the old and weak who shutter at just the mention of social security being threatened which was always intended to do just that, which is to keep their blind attention, obedience and falsified faith in an already broken and collapsed system.

These internationalist bottomfeeders depend on the stupidity of the masses. It's no matter if you're an uneducated idiot, a drug addict, a Barakian, a Tea bagger or just plain don't give a damn. All aspects of useful tools play their part in the play. Confusion is the focus. Keeping the $heople herded while squabbling with each other is the goal. Division is the name of their game. ~$heopleNation

Originally posted by The Sword
reply to post by EarthCitizen07

 

I think you're insane and ditto for the other two posters who starred you.

I don't care about the TOS here.

I care about denying ignorance.

If you think that naziism is "not bad" then wait until you're being fed to a furnace.

You are jumping to conclusions based on the lies written up by the allies who won world war 2. He who wins the war gets to write history the way they want. Of course nazism was bad and I explained that the holocaust painted a black picture of both nazism and facism; both denoting national socialism!

What the schools avoid telling people, unless you are lucky to have a very knowledgeable and unbiased teacher like I did, was that germany had lost world war 1 and as a result was humiliated/bankrupt/suffered great unemployment/severe inflation and lost access to all british/spanish/french/portuguese world colonies.

You have to comprehend that the old world was divided up by the western european superpowers and run by monarchs till the point that national socialism took over. NS was popular in spain, portugal, greece, italy, germany, romania, turkey and other places. Hitler came to power and rallied the people up to rebuild germany as mussolini did in italy. The situation WAS RIPE to finish what world war 1 did not accomplish. This is true history.

Of course the schools only make a big deal about the holocaust primarily cause the jews control wall street, media, gold/silver/diamonds, hollywood, etc. They exert lots of influence so it is natural to make everyone feel sorry for them. Most people could not care less about the gypsies or communists killed. And if you think hitler was bad then why not talk about stalin who killed many times more what hitler did? Is it because stalin was part of the allies or something deeper?

Nobody really liked the jews in europe or anywhere else. The protocols of zion probably play an important role in that as well as crucifying jesus 2000 years ago. Combine greed, a monopoly of power, a betrayel of jesus as the messiah, their clannish nature and it is hardely a suprise why they are disliked. I have no problem with ordinary jews but with those that have an unfounded superiority complex. Please stop with the typical knee-jerk reaction to national socialism. It is like saying since america is a capitalist nation, THEN ALL capitalist nations are equally bad. Since russia was a communist country that killed the most people on earth, THEN ALL communist countries are bad. It is called guilty by association and is FLAWED LOGIC!

Originally posted by EarthCitizen07


What the schools avoid telling people, unless you are lucky to have a very knowledgeable and unbiased teacher like I did, was that germany had lost world war 1 and as a result was humiliated/bankrupt/suffered great unemployment/severe inflation and lost access to all british/spanish/french/portuguese world colonies.

Avoid telling people? That's very basic world history, taught in just about any 8th grade and up history class. Whatever gave you the impression it wasn't?

It is not surprising that most don't remember this modus operandi.
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Pravda (Soviet newspaper) -- Britannica Online Encyclopedia
www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/474092/Pravda - Similarto Pravda (Soviet newspaper) -- Britannica Online Encyclopedia

Pravda, ( Russian: “Truth”) newspaper, published in Moscow and distributed nationwide, that was the official organ of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union ...



Pravda, ( Russian: “Truth”) newspaper, published in Moscow and distributed nationwide, that was the official organ of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union from 1918 to 1991.

Pravda published its first issue on May 5, 1912, in St. Petersburg. Founded as a workers’ daily, the paper eventually became an important organ of the Bolshevik movement, and Vladimir Lenin exercised broad editorial control. It was repeatedly suppressed by the tsar’s police, reappearing each time with a different name, until it finally emerged in Moscow in 1918 to assume its role as the official party paper. It retained this function until the demise of Communist power in the Soviet Union in 1991

so....when does the revolution begin?

it would be completely justified if we establish change in the government protocol.

government doesn't have to be a big bad evil entity..