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What are your favorite 9/11 debunking tactics?

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posted on May, 25 2012 @ 07:39 PM
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Originally posted by maxella1
That's a good video which actually makes it even harder for you to explain what is happening to the right hand side of the building when the windows blow out.


Naturally, it couldn't have anything to do with the internal floors collapsing faster than the exterior? That's one of the main things I tried to point out in the video.




posted on May, 25 2012 @ 08:03 PM
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Originally posted by maxella1

That's a good video which actually makes it even harder for you to explain what is happening to the right hand side of the building when the windows blow out.


Dramatised with music! The big text banners were totally unnecessary too!

varemia forgot to explain how it fell symmetrically due to the left side collapsing?!



posted on May, 25 2012 @ 08:08 PM
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Originally posted by Varemia
Naturally, it couldn't have anything to do with the internal floors collapsing faster than the exterior? That's one of the main things I tried to point out in the video.


How can the internal floors fall faster than the exterior walls, when the floors and exterior walls are all connected?

How did fire cause all the floors to disconnect from the walls and fall independently?




posted on May, 25 2012 @ 08:09 PM
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Originally posted by 4hero

Originally posted by maxella1

That's a good video which actually makes it even harder for you to explain what is happening to the right hand side of the building when the windows blow out.


Dramatised with music! The big text banners were totally unnecessary too!

varemia forgot to explain how it fell symmetrically due to the left side collapsing?!


Yeah, I told you it was an older video. When I make a new one, it will be higher quality without the music.

The point wasn't to explain that. Why would it be?



posted on May, 25 2012 @ 08:10 PM
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Originally posted by ANOK

Originally posted by Varemia
Naturally, it couldn't have anything to do with the internal floors collapsing faster than the exterior? That's one of the main things I tried to point out in the video.


How can the internal floors fall faster than the exterior walls, when the floors and exterior walls are all connected?

How did fire cause all the floors to disconnect from the walls and fall independently?



It was a red-granite facade, probably much sturdier than a steel-aluminum exterior, and the debris from the internal floors had the holes in the building on the southern side to fall through. That's how.



posted on May, 25 2012 @ 08:24 PM
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Originally posted by Varemia


The point wasn't to explain that. Why would it be?


You say the left side collapsed first, so how did the building end up falling symmetrically?



posted on May, 25 2012 @ 08:38 PM
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If the left side fell first it would be obvious in post collapse pics.

Pls point out the evidence of what you're claiming...




posted on May, 25 2012 @ 08:44 PM
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Originally posted by Varemia

Originally posted by ANOK

Originally posted by Varemia
Naturally, it couldn't have anything to do with the internal floors collapsing faster than the exterior? That's one of the main things I tried to point out in the video.


How can the internal floors fall faster than the exterior walls, when the floors and exterior walls are all connected?

How did fire cause all the floors to disconnect from the walls and fall independently?



It was a red-granite facade, probably much sturdier than a steel-aluminum exterior, and the debris from the internal floors had the holes in the building on the southern side to fall through. That's how.


Wow! I actually laughed out load when I read that one. So the building essentially puked its innards out the holes in the southern side. Interesting theory.



posted on May, 25 2012 @ 10:57 PM
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NIST pretty much lays out the collapse sequence from the top down in this diagram




I see that the "inexplicable dust puffs" and windows blowing out under the penthouse are practically in-line with the support columns. Fire would have had to basically liquify the columns to cause the collapse that happened. Otherwise, where were the columns in the wreckage? Did they fold like accordions or what? What made them so weak or break into pieces if it was not explosives? Where was all the black smoke from rampant "office fires" that should have been coming up and out after the penthouse collapsed in?

One of these is not like the others



posted on May, 25 2012 @ 11:15 PM
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Funny how all the columns apparently turned to dust before the outer walls collapsed...



posted on May, 26 2012 @ 08:45 AM
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Because, you know... columns can't buckle or anything. That's just impossible.



posted on May, 26 2012 @ 08:51 AM
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Originally posted by jlm912
Funny how all the columns apparently turned to dust before the outer walls collapsed...

You can't be serious can you? Nothing can turn steel into dust.

At least, nothing that I've ever heard of or seen, and I've seen some wacky things in my time! If you know of something that can turn steel into dust can you send me a link?



posted on May, 26 2012 @ 08:59 AM
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Originally posted by exponent

Originally posted by jlm912
Funny how all the columns apparently turned to dust before the outer walls collapsed...

You can't be serious can you? Nothing can turn steel into dust.

At least, nothing that I've ever heard of or seen, and I've seen some wacky things in my time! If you know of something that can turn steel into dust can you send me a link?



Watch this




posted on May, 26 2012 @ 09:00 AM
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Originally posted by exponent
If you know of something that can turn steel into dust can you send me a link?


It is a conspiracy theory... beam weapons from space.....
www.drjudywood.com...
edit on 26-5-2012 by spoor because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 26 2012 @ 09:02 AM
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Originally posted by maxella1
Watch this


I dunno where this guy gets his information from, but they hauled out a huge weight of metal, and the EPA seems to back it up.

Still, what possible mechanism could do this? I've never seen any official reference to it in any way.



posted on May, 26 2012 @ 09:06 AM
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Originally posted by exponent

Originally posted by maxella1
Watch this


I dunno where this guy gets his information from, but they hauled out a huge weight of metal, and the EPA seems to back it up.

Still, what possible mechanism could do this? I've never seen any official reference to it in any way.


That's the point. What caused it?
Or do you think that guy is a truther and made it up ?



posted on May, 26 2012 @ 09:08 AM
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Originally posted by maxella1
That's the point. What caused it?
Or do you think that guy is a truther and made it up ?

I think he must have been confused. If someone tells me something happened but that something is either impossible or nobody's ever heard of any way to make it happen, then I tend to think they're confused.

Do you believe him, and therefore the inference, that a big fraction of the steel turned to 'microscopic dust'? If so, why?



posted on May, 26 2012 @ 09:22 AM
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Originally posted by exponent

Originally posted by maxella1
That's the point. What caused it?
Or do you think that guy is a truther and made it up ?

I think he must have been confused. If someone tells me something happened but that something is either impossible or nobody's ever heard of any way to make it happen, then I tend to think they're confused.

Do you believe him, and therefore the inference, that a big fraction of the steel turned to 'microscopic dust'? If so, why?


Funny how you believe that wtc 7 collapsed completely due to partial damage from fallen debris and fire but you don't believe your own eye and the EPA doctor because there no official report.

Ever heard of a cover up ? Maybe there is no official report because it cannot be explained without a word explosives?

I know it's scary. But you got to wake up sooner or later and stop lying to yourself. Deal with reality buddy!
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posted on May, 26 2012 @ 09:25 AM
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Originally posted by maxella1
Funny how you believe that wtc 7 collapsed completely due to partial damage from fallen debris and fire but you don't believe your own eye and the EPA doctor because there no official report.

Where did this come from? I don't believe that steel turned to dust because
1. Nobody has told me how steel can turn to dust
2. Nobody has shown me any evidence of steel turning to dust.

Seems reasonable enough to me!


Ever heard of a cover up ? Maybe there is no official report because it cannot be explained without a word explosives?

I've heard of a cover up, but explosives don't turn steel into dust. When I said I hadn't heard of anything, I mean literally nothing I have ever heard of could do it. Steel tends to deform and bend rather than break apart into little chunks, so you'd have to do something crazy like try and cryogenically shatter it. Obviously that didn't happen on 911



posted on May, 26 2012 @ 10:18 AM
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Originally posted by exponent

Originally posted by maxella1
Funny how you believe that wtc 7 collapsed completely due to partial damage from fallen debris and fire but you don't believe your own eye and the EPA doctor because there no official report.

Where did this come from? I don't believe that steel turned to dust because
1. Nobody has told me how steel can turn to dust
2. Nobody has shown me any evidence of steel turning to dust.


You haven't watched the video of the "collapse" of the spire?

I don't discuss it because I can't explain it. You end up arguing with people telling you that you don't see what you do see. So I just stick with simple physics that grade school kids should understand and adults have to explain how they can pretend it is "junk physics". Not having steel data on skyscrapers which held themselves up for 28 years. Ridiculous!

Engineering schools that can't build collapse models.


psik
edit on 26-5-2012 by psikeyhackr because: punctuation err



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