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Topic started on 20-5-2012 @ 09:23 AM by Icarus Rising

Calif. burning rocks victim tells of strange horror

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At first, Lyn Hiner thought it was a bug bite when she felt a sudden sting on her right thigh. She gave her thigh a swat and the next thing she knew flames shot from her shorts where she stood in her San Clemente kitchen...The rocks, described as a smooth orange colored one and a smaller green one, have been sent to a state lab for testing. Initial tests at the county health department revealed phosphate.

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reply posted on 20-5-2012 @ 09:23 AM by Icarus Rising

Burning rocks? She'd had them in her pocket for hours, how could they just spontaneously ignite?

The rocks were collected from tide pools on a beach that sits between the San Onofre nuclear power plant and the Marine Corps' Camp Pendleton. Officials from both the plant and the base deny the rocks could have anything to do with their activities.

Maybe that explains it.

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reply posted on 20-5-2012 @ 09:45 AM by The X

You just know that high strangeness in the area of two classified facilities means that whatever the actual truth is, we won't know about it.
The moment those "Rocks" were removed from her possession, the truth was lost.

reply posted on 20-5-2012 @ 09:45 AM by watchitburn

I have been following this story since it first came out.

Here is a picture of the rocks she had.

After discussing this with my co-workers and studying the image. I believe the rocks had White Phosphorus on them. The orange residue on the rocks is very likely WP.

I think once the authorities release their results, it will confirm this.

How the rocks got the WP on them in the first place is anyone's guess.

reply posted on 20-5-2012 @ 09:53 AM by Jordan River

shouldn't the title be. Tales of strange horror

Probably some chemical reaction between two rocks, maybe

reply posted on 20-5-2012 @ 09:54 AM by Silcone Synapse

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Are the rocks remnants of military flares I wonder?
Is there a base nearby?

reply posted on 20-5-2012 @ 09:57 AM by pavil

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Sounds plausible.

Here's a quote from the inital report:

The rocks her daughters collected at the beach that day appeared smooth, slightly white and granite-like but nothing odd.

. It seems that once they dried off and they came in full contact with the air, things began to change with the rocks. That would be something that WP would do. Would WP be inert in saltwater?

reply posted on 20-5-2012 @ 09:59 AM by Redwookieaz

Originally posted by watchitburn

How the rocks got the WP on them in the first place is anyone's guess.

Maybe from flares or rockets, that didnt fully combust, possibly from Camp Pendleton? Just MY guess.

Edit:Somebody above beat me to it, but I agree.

edit on 20-5-2012 by Redwookieaz because: (no reason given)

reply posted on 20-5-2012 @ 10:05 AM by jisujaaljo

reply to post by watchitburn

Hi there.
I used to work as a blacksmith for 15 years.
When i did candelabers and such, i always stroke lineseed oil on the stuff i made, and heated the objects just enough for them to get black by the burned oil.
If i sometimes heated it to much thats the way it looked.
Lineseed oil also has the ability to selfcombust in to flames.

So if there was lineseed oil on those rocks they very well could have started to burn

/Jimmy

reply posted on 20-5-2012 @ 10:13 AM by fixer1967

I wonder how many more of those rocks are in that water. Some one needs to get some samples from the area. Keep them under water until they can get them to a lab. They may have to end up digging up and hauling off tons of rocks to some safe area so they can dry our and burn off the "what ever it is" that may be on them. What other areas are they around the country that may be just like this.

reply posted on 20-5-2012 @ 10:16 AM by paradox

Originally posted by Silcone Synapse
reply to post by watchitburn

Are the rocks remnants of military flares I wonder?
Is there a base nearby?

Yes it was on the beach close to Camp Pendleton. WP is my guess.

edit on 5-20-12 by paradox because: (no reason given)

reply posted on 20-5-2012 @ 10:20 AM by Liberal1984

Just plain weird!
But I believe a flare falling into the water, coating these rocks in phosphorus, and then burning once dried off is the most likely reason. It’s either that or the area has phosphorus in it naturally, and although this stuff (like most metals) has normally reacted with the earth’s atmosphere over the millions of years since the Earth’s formation, the phosphorus in these rocks was (until recently) wear too heaveily encased for this to occur.

reply posted on 20-5-2012 @ 11:11 AM by rebellender

but,
did she also have a ni-cad battery and coins in her pocket?

reply posted on 20-5-2012 @ 11:36 AM by silo13

I'm so glad you posted this thread!

really hope someone here can shed some light on this. I am so intrigued but the recounting - though of course I feel rotten for this poor lady - but that being said - WHAT HAPPENED!

I want a couple a those thing!

peace

reply posted on 20-5-2012 @ 02:01 PM by PhoenixOD

If this is the same story that was posted here a few days ago then the rocks ignited because they contain a natural form of phosphorus. Its the same stuff in red matches.

reply posted on 20-5-2012 @ 02:36 PM by Icarus Rising

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I didn't know the story had been posted previously. I did a search on the lady's name and "burning rocks", and nothing came up.

The story doesn't say she had anything else in her pocket besides the rocks. Could the rocks have reacted with coins or a battery?

My dad told me once they used to have phosphorus matches when he was a kid. They were kept in water and ignited when taken out and exposed to air.

reply posted on 20-5-2012 @ 07:40 PM by WatchRider

Interesting, could be a form of power source if harness correctly...

reply posted on 20-5-2012 @ 07:46 PM by Common Good

"Frantically the couple tried to bat the flames out. Then Rob yelled for Lyn to open her pants and he pulled as hard as he could to get them off. "

I LOL'd at this.

More mature response- I like how quick the Govt was to deny any role.

They need to find out where those rocks came from.

reply posted on 20-5-2012 @ 08:12 PM by WeRpeons

I was wondering if teens were possibly playing with the chemicals. I remember when I was young making homemade firecrackers, but not with phosphate. More like using caps and match heads. Maybe the spilled some of those chemicals on those rocks? Just wondering how it could have possibly gotten on the stones.

reply posted on 20-5-2012 @ 09:04 PM by IntegratedInstigator

When I read the story I immediatly thought of a toy I had when I was younger. They were colorful round balls coated with a powder and when you throw one up in the air and catch it and allow it to hit the other one it make a loud crack like a cap gun. I wonder if someone either left a pair of those on the beach, or if thats what she had in her pocket.

The only thing I could find to describe the toy is an old ended listing on ebay.
cgi.ebay.com... YqI%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc#ht_499wt_922

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