reply to post by jonnyc55
I think you've officially been welcomed to ATS.
I signed up in 2005 and it wasn't long before I totally gave up on this place. You can't help
having your threads spun way off topic and filled with fluff that people like me have to scroll through when we're trying to read what the OP is
trying to say. The best thing you can do is ignore the off-topic, flaming, trolling and other random posts so the thread length is at least cut in
half from how long it would be if you took the time to reply to them all (which would literally cause you to kill yourself after losing all faith in
humanity if you actually tried to reason with these people). There are, despite all appearances, some people here who actually 'get it,' so cross
your fingers with every new topic and hope they chime in with something worth reading and replying to. Failing that, take my route and make a blog and
leave this place in your wake. (Hey, I do check in from time to time to try to save some souls like a Buddha
Some people don't realize that all movies, stories, and myths, are multi-layered, have subtext, hidden meanings, easter eggs, and socio-political
commentary in them. Well, maybe not all
those things all the time, but if you can only see the basic surface plot, you're at the lowest level
of interpretation. To use an analogy (though some people here clearly don't know that analogies exist..), the Jews have 4 levels of interpretation of
religious writing. The second being a hint that there's more there, and the third using their intuition to find out what that hidden meaning is (I
think, though Rabbi's are probably the only ones who practice this).
I always have to bring up the movie Sublime
where in the director's commentary the filmmakers explicitly state that the movie is a commentary
on Geroge 'Dubya' Bush's America. There's no way to suss out that story from the horror movie plot, however, so you can see that you may never
know 100% what a movie is really
about according to the filmmakers, but you can often make some educated guesses. And at the very least, you
will enhance your own enjoyment of the film, even if no one agrees with you.
Back on topic,
I agree that the movie title is a clever reference to the "dark night of the soul." Seeing as how it's the second of a planned trilogy, I think
there's a parallel to having Empire Strikes Back
being the second in the original "Star Wars" trilogy. It's like the Hero's Journey
beginning with the reluctant hero starting off, falling into the underworld/magical realm, and coming back full circle but at a higher level/changed.
It's like an up-down-up motion of the story, or good-bad-good. "The night is always darkest before the dawn."
The Batman is a split-personality, and Christian Bale could have drawn upon his character in American Psycho
to play Batman. Someone I know put
the films in this order: Batman Begins, American Psycho, The Dark Knight.
Both the Joker and Batman want to save people, but the Joker wants to save them from themselves. The Joker takes the route of chaos and throws modern
culture back into the face of Gotham with its transient flexible morals and subjective belief in "good" and "evil." He burns a mountain of money.
Bruce Wayne is
a mountain of money!
The dark night is illuminated by the midnight sun, which I think is being referenced in the title of the final chapter of the trilogy, The Dark
, like a phoenix rising and the promised sunrise of the dawn.