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Originally posted by lavenlaar
Was not WA a 'basket case' many years ago, and the funding from the East helped to rebuild the west?
AUSTRALIA's real unemployment rate is twice the official figure and the Reserve Bank must urgently cut interest rates, says the nation's biggest research firm.
A Roy Morgan Research snapshot of more than 4500 people in April put the national unemployment rate at 9.3 per cent.
This compares to Australian Bureau of Statistics estimates that only 4.9 per cent of Australians are unemployed.
``The RBA uses the Government's statistics and they say there is no unemployment, so we must keep the interest rates high,'' said Roy Morgan executive chairman Gary Morgan.
Originally posted by OmegaLogos
3rdly Here is a map of why it is impossible [currently] for WA to seceede and be successful at that ...
Note how many export pots WA has .... NONE!
Note how many export ports the eastern coast of Australia has ... ALL OF THEM!
Originally posted by BLV12A
Here are the FACTS..
Total Throughput(imports&exports) in tonnes for the 2010/2011 financial year
New South Wales 175,519,497 tonnes
Victoria 50,450,293 tonnes
Queensland 253,643,532 tonnes
South Australia 22,583,806 tonnes
Western Australia 422,640,419 tonnes
Tasmania 13,538,023 tonnes
Northern Territory 3,729,604 tonnes
Originally posted by daaskapital
Originally posted by CrimsonKapital
Originally posted by daaskapital
WA shouldn't cut ties with Canberra. If i were Canberra, i would be pulling out all military bases and forces out of WA just in case they decide to succeed.
And why shouldn't they succeed?
WA has lacked in proper funding by the Commonwealth for many years now, then the mining boom comes along and Canberra decides to hoard all their profits leaving nothing for the WA people.
The first attempt for succession was made in 1933. Take a look at the injustice.
At the 22 October 2008 Vista Public Lecture, former Western Australian Premier, Richard Court, indicated that the case for a secessionist movement is only strengthened while the Commonwealth government continues to exploit the State's resource-rich economy and fails to share the prosperity evenly.[8] He argued that Western Australia accounts for 35% of the nation's export income yet most of the revenue is used to strengthen the "financial muscle growing in Canberra". The state has approximately 9–10% of the nation's population, generates over 10% of the GST revenue, but receives only 6% of what is being distributed.[citation needed] Court highlighted that if the current Federation path continues, then by the year 2020, Western Australia will be receiving only 5% of what is being distributed by the Commonwealth Grants Commission. The former Premier said he was not advocating secession but stressed that the financial imbalance required addressing and that "the time to do so is now".
The Republic of Westralia is most definately on the horizon. I blame Gillard for all this, yes other governments contributed but her inept leadership has fractured the very Federation itself.edit on 19-5-2012 by CrimsonKapital because: error
While Western Australia has been treated unfairly (as has Queensland), it would be better for itself and Australia to remain one country. It will keep Australia stronger than what it would be if it were to be split. WA should grow up and stop whinging.
Originally posted by SplitInfinity
Check this out....www.2012.com.au...
This is a way for Australians to make a BOATLOAD of MONEY!
The United States is currently setting up for a policy of CONTAINMENT as far as CHINA is concerned. It would love nothing better than to have several large Naval Bases based on the Australian Island. The amount of money Australia could gain from this from this would be astronomical!
The face it. The United States is already protecting Australia. If you look at the link provided it will show you that the U.S....requardless of what the Australian Government tells you....a country the size of Australia with such a small population...does not get FREE PROTECTION of both Land as well as SEA LANES without giving something back. As for certain Australians who have the opinion that Australia...if it allowed such bases would become nothing more than a U.S. DUPE....WAKE UP! YOU ALREADY ARE! You might as well get PAID FOR IT! It is not like the United States has a History of making things worse...although IRAN is an exception....look at Japan, Korea, France, Germany, Netherlands, Belgium....etc. They all benefited from U.S. intervention.
In the case of Australia...no matter what you have been told...THERE ARE U.S. MILITARY AS WELL AS CIVILIAN INTELL GROUPS BASES all over your country. The U.S. People like Australians and you would never be conquered or such bull. You would be getting PAID! VERY WELL!
The best part is the U.S. Military tends to share some tech. with very close allies. The U.K. is allowed to purchase TRIDENT II D-5 MIRVED NUCLEAR SUB LAUNCHED MISSLES as well as their overall targeting systems. If the U.S. did not provide this to the U.K....all they would have is their SUB which is by the way built in conjuction with U.S. Military Contractors such as Electric Boat and the U.S. Navy basically developed with Electric Boat the U.K. Vanguard Sub.
I am not saying Australia should go this route but Australia could definitely use some Attack Subs as well as ABM's not to mention the tiny Aussie Airforce which consists of a few Super Hornets as well as a few F-18A's
Split Infinity
Originally posted by gps777
Originally posted by AussieDingus
Your the second east coaster to ask this,care to back it up,that WA used their profits because we were struggling?
What i asked was, did WA or QLD share in the profits of the steel industry boom when it was at its peak. So why shouldn't other states share in WA and QLD's mining boom ?
I don`t know your qualifications/work skills health age etc etc or the positions you applied for,I know I could get a job up there tomorrow.
If i had a dollar for every person that said they could get me a start in the mines, i wouldn't have to work in the mines !
Why would these workers complain if they`re already well paid?why should they get a double dip?
I'm not saying the workers should complain, or get a double dip. I'm saying the a large amount of miners fly in from other states to make the mines their profits. So why should the profits be excluded to just WA or QLD ?
There is a place called Wittenoom that used to mine asbestos which stopped in 1966 there is asbestos on the ground everywhere there I`ve been there many times,people still refuse to move.
This didn't answer my question, the question was, what happens to these communties after the mining companies have moved on. If there's asbestos everywhere at that site, then its hardly a case of a mining compnay caring for a community !
How would you like a special tax just for you? while everyone else was taxed less.
Well its funny you ask me that, because as a single male taxpayer living in Australia, i'm the most disciminated category their is according to tax purposes. And everyone else isnt being taxed less, they are being taxed according to their earnings, yet is the same rule applying to these mining magnates ?
No I wasn`t saying that,I was defending a persons right to spend their money as they see fit,against those who think they are entitled to have a say with others finances.
But you are defending these people, so aren't you also thinking that you're entitled to have a say with others finance's, but as long as everyone agree's with your opinion, its ok ! And i never said anyhting about how some one should spend their money, we were talking about how much these people should contribute in taxes, not spending !
For someone who complains about others whinging you do a heck of a lot yourself.Families can be like that rich or not.
Ahh, and there it is. No valid response so you have to resort to the whinging comments, yet i'm doing nothing different to you on here, i just have a different opinion. My comment about mining magnates whinging was backed up with examples to prove the point.
Good for you thanks,thats all we want
Yep, and when the majority live on the East coast, the majority of the fair share will more than likely end up towards the east more than the west. thats how a majority works. Thats not my system, thats just how it works .
Industries around Australia could have done with the Governments help to keep them alive or on our shores,it doesn`t help them by squeezing them.
And where do Governments get the resources to help out these indutries, by taxing the previous industry boom. Its a circular system with the few making the obscene profits, while the general population gets left with the clean up afterwards, and taxed more and more !
Not sure if your willing to move over here to get in the mines,From my experience with the mines they like families (depending on what site,Newman, Port Hedland if your trying to get in with BHP) if you`ve got a Boilermakers ticket,you should be snapped up pretty quick,there are many contract
I'm prepared to move anywhere in Australia for a mining job, but i'm currently not in a financial position to just up and move on the CHANCE of getting a job. But thanks anyway for the advice !