WA Threatens to split from Australia, page 4


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reply posted on 20-5-2012 @ 05:44 AM by choos
reply to post by CrimsonKapital



i dont get economics, so someone needs to help me here.

WA has 35% of australias exports. but what portion of that is part of the GDP if this makes any sense?

im just confused im sure australias economy is more than just exports.


reply posted on 20-5-2012 @ 06:20 AM by gps777
reply to post by surrealist



No usually those who have periods want more than they give finacially,if your feelin moody give it a few days then continue putting your hand out,while we dig the motte and paddle WA further west.




reply posted on 20-5-2012 @ 06:25 AM by BLV12A
The only states or mainland territories which can really complain about being ignored by Canberra, are SA, NT and TAS.

Queensland sure as hell has not been ignored by the feds. Are you kidding me?
They along with NSW and Victoria, are the spoilt brats of the federation.
Ok, so NSW and Vic get more, but Queensland is still far better off then the rest.

If WA goes, then SA and NT should join them.

WA can not sustain it self on it's own it's population is too small.
The population growth in WA is a result of the mining boom. People didn't just appear out of thin air. They moved out west from the east coast states.

WA breaks away, then that labor pool supply dries up.


WA, SA & NT should breakaway together.
Most of the uranium in Australia is in SA, and unless I'm mistaken, all the uranium resources are within these three states.
WA is in a mining boom.
SA is about to hit it's own mining boom.

WA - 2.3 million pop, $197 billion gdp
SA - 1.7 million pop, $78 billion
NT - 230 thousand pop, $17 billion

Total - 4.23 million, $292 billion
Per capita - $69,000


It would be one of the wealthiest countries in the world.
Richer then the small island state of Singapore which is considered a very wealthy country.



But back to reality, WA represents 2% of the national population.
It represents 46% of national exports.

Just because it has a higher stake of the exports and GNP, doesn't mean it deserves more funding or equal or similar funding to the east coast.
The majority of the nations population is on the east coast in NSW & VIC.
Therefore more money is needed there.
If WA's population explodes to 4 million, then they will get more funding to rival the east coast.
It's simple logic.


reply posted on 20-5-2012 @ 07:04 AM by crackerjack
Ever since the ranga put the knife into Rudd, she's been milking the sweet spots of Australia dry.
I'm from Tasmainia and poor old Tassie gets the bum end of the Canbera stick as well, left in the dark as the 'mainlanders' sip their wines with our fruits of labor. Now you have the Queensland gov absolutly broke, man the public servents even got their coffee, tea and indoor plants taken away to cut costs, no more flights, only driving. I can understand why WA is pissed having to prob the other states up.

Sure now Australia's biggest income is from the resource boom, but punters beware, the Red Dragon takes what it wants and will do anything to get it, If you google Chinese SOE's buying up vast land in WA, the figures speak. Right now, I think the Premier has his head stuck too far up his bum with all his cash to actually see what's going to happen with the Chinese economy cooling and also the Chinese buying up alot of African resources coupled with prices for raw materials in Australia getting extreamly high, there's going to be a slowdown in direct demand. Now add the stupid carbon tax and mining taxes in and you end up with a poo storm in a tea cup.

PS. I just COULD NOT IMAGINE the WA people 'adapting' the asian culture at all. I mean are they going to set up some ping pong tables and ditch the footy, doubt it, just a statement from a greedy Premier.

If you want to know the true mining culture I suggest watching a movie called RED DOG.



reply posted on 20-5-2012 @ 07:26 AM by Sublimecraft
Unbelievable diatribe coming from too many posters to name them all. You are pathetic with your narrow minded attitudes towards "how the financial gains resultant from the exploitation of resources of one state, within one country, should be divided up".

Here is my take, but before I comment, these are some of my credentials:-

1. All my life I have lived in NZ, QLD, TAS, WA, SA as well as Christmas Island and Nauru.
2. I work in the crux of the Oil & Gas industry - specifically the Marine operations of the Gorgon Project off Dampier, more specifically I am directly involved in the laying of the Gorgon-Jansz gas pipeline as I currently write this.
3. I suspect that the amounts of money being spent/consumed AND TAKEN OUT OF THIS COUNTRY are in the Billions already.
4. There are 18 Blokes onboard my vessel - representing every Australian state & Territory as well as NZ. I showed them after todays safety meeting the first 3 pages of this forum and ALL agree that WA has, is and will continue to prop up the Australian economy - FACT!
5. They asked me to say this to you bitching Aussie whingers - grab a can of toughen the F#%-up.
6. I love Australia and as long as the revenue stays in Australia and is used for the betterment of those most unfortunate (the ones who cannot afford a computer to even read this post) and to improve hospitals etc then that is a good thing.

Now for my take: "Divide and Conquer" - as this forum was designed to do

If this forum went national around Australia my take would play out perfectly into the hands of the real enemy within one week
Who is the real enemy? Well, being a member of ATS that seems obvious as we march towards our destruction
which has been planned for hundreds, if not thousands of years.
Stop playing into their hands and snap out if it.
If this post offends you - then it was meant to.


reply posted on 20-5-2012 @ 07:45 AM by Sublimecraft
reply to post by BLV12A



Not just the mining boom helping the economy my friend - also the Oil and Gas industry. between the Gorgon project and the Wheatstone project the industry is worth hundreds of Billions, yes Billions, to Australia, in the next 5 years alone. Too bad most posters on this forum do not realise that our paymasters are American Oil giants (Chevron / Kellog group) and our main customer is the sleeping red Goliath - China.

United we stand, divided we fall

Your call people!


reply posted on 20-5-2012 @ 08:44 AM by BLV12A
Originally posted by gps777
Originally posted by BLV12A


WA - 2.3 million pop, $197 billion gdp

But back to reality, WA represents 2% of the national population.


Back to reality Australias population 22,300,000 thats just over 10% for WA`s population,math fail for starters.

Your other opinions your welcome to have,we`re too busy diggin over here at the moment.




Eh, big deal, one little error that I read off another site and didn't bother to check as I was on the phone at the same time as I was typing.
Congrats, do you feel like a big man now?

The point I was making is still valid.
WA is not a sizeable, population wise, part of the country.
It has 2.3 million people.

Queensland 4.5 million
NSW 7.3 million
Victoria 5.5 million
ACT 365 thousand

Total 17.6 million out of the 22 million total population of the country.

Three quarters of the Australian population living on the eastern seabord, as opposed to around 10% living mostly in one single city in the south west tip.

Yes, I can see how WA has been short changed.

If WA thinks that it deserves a bigger slice, that's their problem. They can always tax the mining companies more.

The fact is besides WA's exports which mostly come from its mining sector, which is the only thing it really has going for it, WA isn't as special as they think they are.

Queensland is the other big mining state at the moment. I don't think I've ever heard them have a tantrum and threaten to break away from federation.

The Feds wanted to turn part of outback South Australia into a nuclear waste dump. A bigger issue then WA not getting enough federal funding compared to NSW or VIC.


I remember a few years ago, NSW was also complaining it didn't get enough federal funding, despite most of the GST receipts coming from them.

Fact is every state has a little cry every now and then about federal funding.
But fact is the east coast has the bulk of the population and therefore will always get more funding.

Even if those decisions weren't politically motivated, you aren't going to build the same level of infrastructure for 2.3 million people, as you would for 17.6 million people.
It's just simply not needed and a massive waste of money.


Of course, if Perth is short on money, they could always scrap their new $1 billion 60,000 seat stadium before construction starts.
And rather spend a few hundred million instead to upgrade Subiaco.

They are also building a 15,000 seat indoor arena.

They have a freeway network.
They are building some giant underground train tunnel system.


Maybe they should scale back their ambitious plans, or increase their time frame, if they cant afford them...rather then threaten like children to run away.
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