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WA Threatens to split from Australia

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posted on May, 20 2012 @ 05:16 AM
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WoooHoo!!

Thats the best thread headline I`ve seen around here for ages


Good on ya Barnett (man that made me smile)


I`m off to grab my shovel to start digging a trench/motte along the WA border,see ya there Chadwickus or is that jumpimg the gun a bit?

In all seriousness its about time Camberra starts to see how much WA does for the country and play fair.




posted on May, 20 2012 @ 05:16 AM
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with reference to the title of the thread .................. no loss



posted on May, 20 2012 @ 05:32 AM
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Originally posted by steve1709
with reference to the title of the thread .................. no loss


Well steve,if it was to happen the revenue that WA provides will have to come from your pockets.

and all we want is a fair go over here.



posted on May, 20 2012 @ 05:44 AM
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i dont get economics, so someone needs to help me here.

WA has 35% of australias exports. but what portion of that is part of the GDP if this makes any sense?

im just confused im sure australias economy is more than just exports.



posted on May, 20 2012 @ 05:47 AM
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Is someone from WA having their period again? Poor diddums.



posted on May, 20 2012 @ 06:07 AM
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Originally posted by surrealist
Is someone from WA having their period again? Poor diddums.





posted on May, 20 2012 @ 06:20 AM
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No usually those who have periods want more than they give finacially,if your feelin moody give it a few days then continue putting your hand out,while we dig the motte and paddle WA further west.




posted on May, 20 2012 @ 06:25 AM
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The only states or mainland territories which can really complain about being ignored by Canberra, are SA, NT and TAS.

Queensland sure as hell has not been ignored by the feds. Are you kidding me?
They along with NSW and Victoria, are the spoilt brats of the federation.
Ok, so NSW and Vic get more, but Queensland is still far better off then the rest.

If WA goes, then SA and NT should join them.

WA can not sustain it self on it's own it's population is too small.
The population growth in WA is a result of the mining boom. People didn't just appear out of thin air. They moved out west from the east coast states.

WA breaks away, then that labor pool supply dries up.


WA, SA & NT should breakaway together.
Most of the uranium in Australia is in SA, and unless I'm mistaken, all the uranium resources are within these three states.
WA is in a mining boom.
SA is about to hit it's own mining boom.

WA - 2.3 million pop, $197 billion gdp
SA - 1.7 million pop, $78 billion
NT - 230 thousand pop, $17 billion

Total - 4.23 million, $292 billion
Per capita - $69,000


It would be one of the wealthiest countries in the world.
Richer then the small island state of Singapore which is considered a very wealthy country.



But back to reality, WA represents 2% of the national population.
It represents 46% of national exports.

Just because it has a higher stake of the exports and GNP, doesn't mean it deserves more funding or equal or similar funding to the east coast.
The majority of the nations population is on the east coast in NSW & VIC.
Therefore more money is needed there.
If WA's population explodes to 4 million, then they will get more funding to rival the east coast.
It's simple logic.



posted on May, 20 2012 @ 06:38 AM
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not my prob tripple 7, i'm off grid, own water, own food, own power. I could easily get by without their help. Only thing I have to watch for is the bl##dy govt wanting more dollars than I can find. Even there i'm OK for quite a while but there's always some way that they can get at the average joe. Gotta luv the govt as is evident by this idiot premier muscle flexing for everybody that lives over there in WA. So, in reality it won't happen because he doesn't have the power to do it. He's just a would be if he could be.



posted on May, 20 2012 @ 06:52 AM
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Originally posted by BLV12A


WA - 2.3 million pop, $197 billion gdp

But back to reality, WA represents 2% of the national population.


Back to reality Australias population 22,300,000 thats just over 10% for WA`s population,math fail for starters.

Your other opinions your welcome to have,we`re too busy diggin over here at the moment.



posted on May, 20 2012 @ 06:58 AM
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Originally posted by steve1709
not my prob tripple 7, i'm off grid, own water, own food, own power. I could easily get by without their help.

Good for you steve,way to go



Only thing I have to watch for is the bl##dy govt wanting more dollars than I can find.

Yeah don`t we all


Gotta luv the govt as is evident by this idiot premier muscle flexing for everybody that lives over there in WA. So, in reality it won't happen because he doesn't have the power to do it. He's just a would be if he could be.


I can`t see it honestly happening myself nor do I really want it other than a fair go for West Aussies as well.



posted on May, 20 2012 @ 07:04 AM
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Ever since the ranga put the knife into Rudd, she's been milking the sweet spots of Australia dry.
I'm from Tasmainia and poor old Tassie gets the bum end of the Canbera stick as well, left in the dark as the 'mainlanders' sip their wines with our fruits of labor. Now you have the Queensland gov absolutly broke, man the public servents even got their coffee, tea and indoor plants taken away to cut costs, no more flights, only driving. I can understand why WA is pissed having to prob the other states up.

Sure now Australia's biggest income is from the resource boom, but punters beware, the Red Dragon takes what it wants and will do anything to get it, If you google Chinese SOE's buying up vast land in WA, the figures speak. Right now, I think the Premier has his head stuck too far up his bum with all his cash to actually see what's going to happen with the Chinese economy cooling and also the Chinese buying up alot of African resources coupled with prices for raw materials in Australia getting extreamly high, there's going to be a slowdown in direct demand. Now add the stupid carbon tax and mining taxes in and you end up with a poo storm in a tea cup.

PS. I just COULD NOT IMAGINE the WA people 'adapting' the asian culture at all. I mean are they going to set up some ping pong tables and ditch the footy, doubt it, just a statement from a greedy Premier.

If you want to know the true mining culture I suggest watching a movie called RED DOG.



posted on May, 20 2012 @ 07:26 AM
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Unbelievable diatribe coming from too many posters to name them all. You are pathetic with your narrow minded attitudes towards "how the financial gains resultant from the exploitation of resources of one state, within one country, should be divided up".

Here is my take, but before I comment, these are some of my credentials:-

1. All my life I have lived in NZ, QLD, TAS, WA, SA as well as Christmas Island and Nauru.
2. I work in the crux of the Oil & Gas industry - specifically the Marine operations of the Gorgon Project off Dampier, more specifically I am directly involved in the laying of the Gorgon-Jansz gas pipeline as I currently write this.
3. I suspect that the amounts of money being spent/consumed AND TAKEN OUT OF THIS COUNTRY are in the Billions already.
4. There are 18 Blokes onboard my vessel - representing every Australian state & Territory as well as NZ. I showed them after todays safety meeting the first 3 pages of this forum and ALL agree that WA has, is and will continue to prop up the Australian economy - FACT!
5. They asked me to say this to you bitching Aussie whingers - grab a can of toughen the F#%-up.
6. I love Australia and as long as the revenue stays in Australia and is used for the betterment of those most unfortunate (the ones who cannot afford a computer to even read this post) and to improve hospitals etc then that is a good thing.

Now for my take: "Divide and Conquer" - as this forum was designed to do

If this forum went national around Australia my take would play out perfectly into the hands of the real enemy within one week
Who is the real enemy? Well, being a member of ATS that seems obvious as we march towards our destruction
which has been planned for hundreds, if not thousands of years.
Stop playing into their hands and snap out if it.
If this post offends you - then it was meant to.



posted on May, 20 2012 @ 07:30 AM
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Too funny. Whatever happened to that king they had up mid northish? Leonard or something?

I remember the kids in WA (I spent a few years living there as a young un) were pretty stupid and/or ignorant. Most couldn't even point out Canberra on a map (in fact one of my friends thought Canberra was a country starting with c that sits directly north of the USA - lol). Not sure they would have the nous to manage themselves. Also a very religious state, which would make it extra scarey.

Is the main industry mining? Well I think that's a pretty steep claim to say they deserve more all they did was dug some holes and went down them, it's not like they fostered the metals.

Ps go the eagles!



posted on May, 20 2012 @ 07:45 AM
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Not just the mining boom helping the economy my friend - also the Oil and Gas industry. between the Gorgon project and the Wheatstone project the industry is worth hundreds of Billions, yes Billions, to Australia, in the next 5 years alone. Too bad most posters on this forum do not realise that our paymasters are American Oil giants (Chevron / Kellog group) and our main customer is the sleeping red Goliath - China.

United we stand, divided we fall

Your call people!



posted on May, 20 2012 @ 07:56 AM
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Geez Barnett blabs on and on.. typical liberal.. abbot reincarnated..*god f**king help us!* He's just lucky enough to be swept up in an environment created by previous LABOUR state governments. Wanker... And he can talk until he is blue in the face (or six foot under) cause WA isn't going ANYWHERE cause the Australian constitution will not allow it.. FULL STOP.. AND that Red Head in Canberra will continue to leach billions of dollars out of WA pockets and that get right up his arse...



posted on May, 20 2012 @ 08:00 AM
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Screw the rest of Australia, West Australia should throw its hat in with China.
The rest of Australia is a basket case economy, NSW and Victoria are financial black holes. Everyone knows the country is over governed, if the rest of Australia pulled out of WA they would end up in a similar situation to Greece.

Unfortunately we need the bulk of WAs economic drive to sustain us, fortunately I think this is more a posturing from their state government than any real threat of secession.
If that happened then Qld would have to drive the Australian economy.
The fact is Gillard is stupid and WA deserve a fair cut of its GST revenue. Whats wrong with that.
Best we show a little respect.



posted on May, 20 2012 @ 08:05 AM
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Really, come on now lets get serious. We all know NSW should go!!! That way I wouldnt have to go through it on my way to a lovely sun filled holiday on the gold coast
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Really though, the only people that benefit from anything in this country are the pollies. Please dont leave us W.A. havent been there yet & dont have a passport



posted on May, 20 2012 @ 08:09 AM
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Does anyone seriously believe Colin Barnett cares that much about Western Australia to threaten breaking from the rest of OZ? I wonder where his invested corporate shares are.



posted on May, 20 2012 @ 08:44 AM
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Originally posted by gps777

Originally posted by BLV12A


WA - 2.3 million pop, $197 billion gdp

But back to reality, WA represents 2% of the national population.


Back to reality Australias population 22,300,000 thats just over 10% for WA`s population,math fail for starters.

Your other opinions your welcome to have,we`re too busy diggin over here at the moment.




Eh, big deal, one little error that I read off another site and didn't bother to check as I was on the phone at the same time as I was typing.
Congrats, do you feel like a big man now?

The point I was making is still valid.
WA is not a sizeable, population wise, part of the country.
It has 2.3 million people.

Queensland 4.5 million
NSW 7.3 million
Victoria 5.5 million
ACT 365 thousand

Total 17.6 million out of the 22 million total population of the country.

Three quarters of the Australian population living on the eastern seabord, as opposed to around 10% living mostly in one single city in the south west tip.

Yes, I can see how WA has been short changed.

If WA thinks that it deserves a bigger slice, that's their problem. They can always tax the mining companies more.

The fact is besides WA's exports which mostly come from its mining sector, which is the only thing it really has going for it, WA isn't as special as they think they are.

Queensland is the other big mining state at the moment. I don't think I've ever heard them have a tantrum and threaten to break away from federation.

The Feds wanted to turn part of outback South Australia into a nuclear waste dump. A bigger issue then WA not getting enough federal funding compared to NSW or VIC.


I remember a few years ago, NSW was also complaining it didn't get enough federal funding, despite most of the GST receipts coming from them.

Fact is every state has a little cry every now and then about federal funding.
But fact is the east coast has the bulk of the population and therefore will always get more funding.

Even if those decisions weren't politically motivated, you aren't going to build the same level of infrastructure for 2.3 million people, as you would for 17.6 million people.
It's just simply not needed and a massive waste of money.


Of course, if Perth is short on money, they could always scrap their new $1 billion 60,000 seat stadium before construction starts.
And rather spend a few hundred million instead to upgrade Subiaco.

They are also building a 15,000 seat indoor arena.

They have a freeway network.
They are building some giant underground train tunnel system.


Maybe they should scale back their ambitious plans, or increase their time frame, if they cant afford them...rather then threaten like children to run away.




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