Originally posted by Resurected
This is another example of a group of people wanting to believe something... You want to think he died long before then because it fits an agenda you want to believe in so any random person whos credentials you know nothing about from a source you know nothing about says what you want to hear.. And the village lights its torches. Sad IMO.edit on 19-5-2012 by Resurected because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by theCleeton
confirmed my beliefs that it was all a sham! I feel like I am the only one around here who isn't getting brainwashed and misinformed!
Originally posted by michael1983l
reply to post by jiggerj
The ones that did the raid wern't on the helicopter that went down.
Originally posted by theCleeton
reply to post by Texcin
I wondered about this the day I heard about them dying. I didn't believe anything the MSM said about the Seals killing Bin Laden... I had always thought he was already dead or would never be "found" because he worked with/for our government. I live in the city where most of Seal team 6 is stationed and actually have friends who are friends with some of the widows of those seals. I couldn't voice my opinion in public or on facebook without catching a lot of heat. When they died it basically confirmed my beliefs that it was all a sham! I feel like I am the only one around here who isn't getting brainwashed and misinformed!
Originally posted by jiggerj
reply to post by morder1
No matter which way I think about this I can only come up with a frustrated WHY WHY WHY???
Why would this ex-CIA lie about this?
Why would our government lie about killing Bin Laden?
Seems there is a very childish game going on and I want it to STOP.
Originally posted by JiggyPotamus
This makes sense. If I remember correctly US intelligence confirmed that Bin Laden's kidneys were shutting down, and that he was on dialysis multiple times per week. It was rather advanced by that time, which was not that long after 9/11. If they were pursuing Al Qaeda through the mountains as they said they did, then how could Bin Laden simply waltzed into a town with electricity and a dialysis machine, like a hospital, without being noticed?
I doubt they had the capability to administer these treatments in their mountain caves, so something is wrong with this picture. He should have been dead around that time, due to the previously mentioned condition. The life he was leading, being on the run in the mountains, definitely had a detrimental effect on his already shaky health, and he passed away.
But of course, the government looks at this incident as a tool. They do not want to announce this to the world because people may call for the war on Al Qaeda to end, or begin winding down, and the establishment was nowhere near finished with their plans and expectations. I agree as well about the 80's video quality. Surely if the organization was as well-funded and dangerous as the US made them out to be, they could afford a better camera.
So either these videos were much older, like from the time of the war with the Soviets, or they are fakes created this way to hide and mask certain minute details and features that would show up much more clearly on modern-day video cameras, thus running a higher risk of exposing their double, or stand-in. I really am only speculating, but that seems logical to me. It also seems highly illogical that Bin Laden could have survived in his condition and the location he was in for so long, stressed and on the run, up until recently. No way.
Unless of course the government was lying about other details. Maybe Bin Laden wasn't on the run. They did let him escape after the battle of Tora Bora, at least I think this was the one, by leaving one side of the square completely open, allowing Bin Laden and his battalion to simply walk unhindered to safety. So maybe he was able to get dialysis treatment, but only if the US was allowing him free reign on his movements and weren't keeping the fighters holed-up within the mountains.
Maybe the US were administering his treatments themselves, lol. I doubt it, but as I said, they didn't try very hard to catch or kill him when they had him cornered. They can say what they want, but mistakes that serious just don't happen under these circumstances....A resource-packed army against no more than a battalion of guerrilla fighters, who are surrounded by the way, does not simply forget to guard a perimeter. That is basic military tactics, and "forgetting" something that crucial is just beyond possibility in this situation, at least in my opinion.
...come right along and pluck that feather right out of Obamas cap