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Dear Mathematicians.. a question for you.

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posted on May, 21 2012 @ 09:44 AM
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Originally posted by 0mage


Ahhhh
Alas it is not i that am waivering back and forth between physical and theoretical but the equation itself. All infinite recurring decimal figures enter the theoretical realm. but first a question. how achieved is your logic and mathematical prowess? and do you have the imagination that will balance off your level of logical thinking?
If you may please google "brain dancer" and tell me which way she spins. and how difficult is it for you to make her spin the other direction.


OK, I'm giving you points this one and only time because that was a very cool site. www.perthnow.com.au...
She started counter clockwise, then quickly changed to clockwise and depending on how you look at it, she switches back and forth. Actually very easy to do though.




posted on May, 21 2012 @ 03:41 PM
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ok good. sounds like u are possibly balanced brain with a slight dominance on the logical thinking side. The test will provide this information. as long as what you said is true that it is quite easy for u to change perception and basically manipulate ur left brain right brain dominance at will. I asked for a very important reason. venturing to describe and ascertain such things as these with the attempt to use additional mathematical methods gets very complex. one may have strong logical thinking skills and as such be good at comprehending math and further math.

but if the right brain which is the creative side does not have great enough strength, you will program your brain in such a way that it crashes your operating system. in other words, these things will and have driven many a mathematician/scientist to the madhouse. the equations simply get so complex that the logical thinking brain is much too powerful. when this happens you can imagine what follows to be a "divide by 0" as the creative brain is way to far behind in development. the seesaw crashes into an error checking and correction that never ends simply because perception it self has be corrupted. one may experience constant "hallucinations" spontaneously or when they close their eyes. and in some cases are unable to comprehend reality at all when this happens.

so this was to ensure that i keep you from confusing yourself by trying to rationalize everything with complex mathematics. your imagination must somewhere within a range strong enough to hold logic in check and vice versa.

but this tells us something again. Creativity is a chaotic force. and logic is a rational force u can imagine. yet if you build logic alone and stagnate creativity logic crashes. also if you build creativity too far ahead of logic then logic is said to crash also as that person's creativity exceeds logic significantly enough for them to lose touch with reality. what does that tell you?

sound similar? if it does. that's because it sounds like pi (or any recurring decimal value used in calculations) with it's characteristic of infinite recurring decimals being used in logical computing. it would seem that even in pure math, a branch extends out into illogic. the incalculable! no?

as you can see i aim to describe everything in the simplest methods possible so that hopefully anyone can understand if they pay attention.
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posted on May, 21 2012 @ 03:47 PM
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mathematics is a great way to build logic. just playing with numbers. and having access to different viscosities for the senses to familiarize themselves with. these things build a child's logical thinking power from birth.

creativity building exercises include making music, drawing, painting, poetry and such art forms.

This is why you will discover that all the greatest mathematicians ended up partaking of these things. they very well understood the importance!
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posted on May, 21 2012 @ 03:52 PM
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From your writing, it is clear that you are right brain dominant and trying to comprehend mathematics without first allowing your left brain the control that is needed to assert logic where necessary. Perhaps you can do some of the mind building exercises to help you before you go further and it will come much more easily to you and you'll be more successful in the comprehension that you seek.



posted on May, 21 2012 @ 04:08 PM
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well fine. you resort to reproachful manner because i have successfully pointed out that logical computing as it is so-called uses illogical and imaginative values in calculation yet calls itself accurate and 100% logical?

well

the point of this thread is so near it is here

infinite recurring decimals are the entire reason that the divide by 0 problem exists! mathematics has hidden an imperfection. such a trick that it must be the work of the devil himself! that trickster!
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posted on May, 21 2012 @ 04:39 PM
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Originally posted by 0mage
reply to post by PurpleChiten
 


well fine. you resort to reproachful manner because i have successfully pointed out that logical computing as it is so-called uses illogical and imaginative values in calculation yet calls itself accurate and 100% logical?

well

the point of this thread is so near it is here

infinite recurring decimals are the entire reason that the divide by 0 problem exists! mathematics has hidden an imperfection. such a trick that it must be the work of the devil himself! that trickster!
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reproachful? No, just pointing out that your right brain is more dominant than your left. Why would that be offensive to you?

You can't divide by zero because zero doesn't equal 1. Think on that one for a while

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posted on May, 21 2012 @ 04:42 PM
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well how ever could u make that assumption? i havent told you what my results were? so how do u know? seems like u assume alot.



posted on May, 21 2012 @ 04:44 PM
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Originally posted by 0mage
reply to post by PurpleChiten
 


well how ever could u make that assumption? i havent told you what my results were? so how do u know? seems like u assume alot.


From your presentation of your ideas, writing style, jumps in logic, they are all indicative of a right brain dominant individual

The internet optical illusion is not by any means the only way to investigate right/left brain dominance, in fact, it's probably less accurate than analysis of conversation
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posted on May, 21 2012 @ 04:49 PM
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well ur writing is indicative of someone who sounds like they lied about their results. lol

perhaps you were left mostly, with a little effort can change it to clockwise, but cant hold it as it shoots back to anti clockwise after a very short period.



posted on May, 21 2012 @ 05:00 PM
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Originally posted by 0mage
reply to post by PurpleChiten
 



well ur writing is indicative of someone who sounds like they lied about their results. lol

perhaps you were left mostly, with a little effort can change it to clockwise, but cant hold it as it shoots back to anti clockwise after a very short period.


Nope, why would I lie about it???
It started out counterclockwise, switched to clockwise and I quickly found that by focusing on different areas of it, it would switch back and forth between the two. I even found one point where the optical illusion gyrated back and forth, always with her back/sides to me, never face on. That was pretty interesting.
You certainly get very defensive, is there a reason you are uncomfortable with your right brain dominance? Very odd.

...it did go clokwise more often than I would have liked, but hey, creative day I guess

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posted on May, 21 2012 @ 05:04 PM
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Originally posted by PurpleChiten

Originally posted by 0mage
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well ur writing is indicative of someone who sounds like they lied about their results. lol

perhaps you were left mostly, with a little effort can change it to clockwise, but cant hold it as it shoots back to anti clockwise after a very short period.


Nope, why would I lie about it???
It started out counterclockwise, switched to clockwise and I quickly found that by focusing on different areas of it, it would switch back and forth between the two. I even found one point where the optical illusion gyrated back and forth, always with her back/sides to me, never face on. That was pretty interesting.
You certainly get very defensive, is there a reason you are uncomfortable with your right brain dominance? Very odd.

...it did go clokwise more often than I would have liked, but hey, creative day I guess

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ohh that's not what i meant. that's cheat. look at the dancer directly and change your perception of her flow manually. can u do that?



posted on May, 21 2012 @ 05:28 PM
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Originally posted by 0mage

Originally posted by PurpleChiten

Originally posted by 0mage
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well ur writing is indicative of someone who sounds like they lied about their results. lol

perhaps you were left mostly, with a little effort can change it to clockwise, but cant hold it as it shoots back to anti clockwise after a very short period.


Nope, why would I lie about it???
It started out counterclockwise, switched to clockwise and I quickly found that by focusing on different areas of it, it would switch back and forth between the two. I even found one point where the optical illusion gyrated back and forth, always with her back/sides to me, never face on. That was pretty interesting.
You certainly get very defensive, is there a reason you are uncomfortable with your right brain dominance? Very odd.

...it did go clokwise more often than I would have liked, but hey, creative day I guess

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ohh that's not what i meant. that's cheat. look at the dancer directly and change your perception of her flow manually. can u do that?


Yes, easily, that's why I looked for other ways, to make it interesting. ...
Your communication style is very different when you are defensive. Interesting....



posted on May, 21 2012 @ 05:38 PM
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lol
yeah whatever.. quit trolling. the thread objective has been reached. the thread may be locked.



posted on May, 21 2012 @ 05:41 PM
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Originally posted by 0mage
reply to post by PurpleChiten
 


lol
yeah whatever.. quit trolling. the thread objective has been reached. the thread may be locked.


Very odd... so your questions were answered and you understand more clearly now. Good.
I doubt they'll lock the thread, that would be silly, but now that you understand what was explained to you, have a good day



posted on May, 21 2012 @ 05:46 PM
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much thanks to you sir for your participation in this thread. as well as the others' contributions.



posted on May, 21 2012 @ 05:48 PM
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In a circle it is a chord angle, in a sphere it is rectangle (slab). There is no such thing as a perfect circle or a perfect sphere because the closer you zoom in on the edge, it eventually resolves to a straight line.



posted on May, 21 2012 @ 05:48 PM
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ain't no thang but a chiten wang, L8R T8R



posted on May, 21 2012 @ 10:41 PM
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Originally posted by PurpleChiten
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They paid 25 for the room plus 2 to the clerk, for a total cost of 27 and that accounts for everything
30 original dollars, 3 to each man, 2 to the clerk = 25, the cost of the room

it's all in the way you tell it

You are correct in saying it is in the way you put it but there is an actual answer based on the way it is written.
The Thirtieth Dollar is in the pocket of the Clerk. Split Infinity



posted on May, 21 2012 @ 11:33 PM
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An ideal circle has no straight lines.

The tangent line to a circle has some interesting properties. There is a unique point P which lies on both the line and the circle. Now take a point Q lying on the same line so that PQ has non-zero length. Let C be the center of the circle. By the Pythagorean theorem CQ > CP. Therefore Q does not lie on the same circle as P. This is true regardless of how small PQ gets. No matter how closely you "zoom in" only one point on the circle is ever going to touch the line. Aren't ideal objects wonderful?


Ooh, pretty picture.



posted on May, 21 2012 @ 11:38 PM
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Originally posted by socialist
reply to post by charlyv
 

An ideal circle has no straight lines.

The tangent line to a circle has some interesting properties. There is a unique point P which lies on both the line and the circle. Now take a point Q lying on the same line so that PQ has non-zero length. Let C be the center of the circle. By the Pythagorean theorem CQ > CP. Therefore Q does not lie on the same circle as P. This is true regardless of how small PQ gets. No matter how closely you "zoom in" only one point on the circle is ever going to touch the line. Aren't ideal objects wonderful?


Ooh, pretty picture.


You are absolutely correct, and in the context of an "Ideal Circle", which only exists in theory, but not reality.
Good one! and a mathematical absolute.




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