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Ascended Masters,What place will there be for defenders?

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posted on May, 20 2012 @ 07:22 AM
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It is easy to make a sweeping statement like: "Pure thought requires none of those five senses you listed."

Can you please tell me what you think 'pure thought' is.

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posted on May, 20 2012 @ 07:32 AM
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posted on May, 20 2012 @ 07:35 AM
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A thought is an appearance.
Nothing can appear to appear without the witness/seer/observer..
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posted on May, 20 2012 @ 07:56 AM
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Originally posted by Itisnowagain

Originally posted by artistpoet
When you die your soul will ascend to it's alloted/suitable place
Nothing on Earth can change that only you.


You are already home. Where do you think you are going?
The asended masters have not gone anywhere. They have just asended the conditioned mind. They see the conditioned mind for what it is, they observe it. They have overcome the world by seeing that the mind is the world, the world is no more than an idea and the asended masters know this.


I am talking about the soul within a mortal body here on Earth
When one's body dies the soul is freed of it's mortal bonds
The soul ascends beyond the Earth and in some cases beyond the stars
When this occurs one is truly home though I do understand what you are saying about being home already.
I choose to view my soul as fixed to Earth for this lifetime for a purpose - Yes I know my soul is Immortal by nature
I am not wanting to escape it for one day I will when the time comes
I am wanting to connect the Earth and Nature rather than dismiss it as blink of the eye illusion in the big scheme of things

Keep it real so any can understand


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posted on May, 20 2012 @ 08:09 AM
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Originally posted by Itisnowagain
reply to post by Chamberf=6
 


It is easy to make a sweeping statement like: "Pure thought requires none of those five senses you listed."

Can you please tell me what you think 'pure thought' is.

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Says the Sunday morning koan writer.
lol



posted on May, 20 2012 @ 08:10 AM
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A thought is an appearance
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So you see thoughts?

Odd.

I think mine.



posted on May, 20 2012 @ 09:10 AM
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Originally posted by Chamberf=6



A thought is an appearance
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So you see thoughts?

Odd.

I think mine.


This is what you believe to be true because you have not inquired into the nature of thought or the nature of you.
Do you know what a koan is? What is a koan used for?
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posted on May, 20 2012 @ 09:16 AM
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This is what you believe to be true because you have not inquired into the nature of thought or the nature of you..

Thanks for simultaneously being condescending and assuming I haven't led a self-reflective life.



Do you know what a koan is? What is a koan used for?

No I just go around using words I have no understanding of.

I was being sarcastic earlier, oh didactic one.

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posted on May, 20 2012 @ 09:20 AM
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'Pure thought'??
'Koans'??

Yes i believe you are right when you say you use words you have no understanding of.
If not explain, 'pure thought' and 'koan'.



posted on May, 20 2012 @ 09:25 AM
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Why the hell should I?

Do you have your red pen ready to grade and critique?

I said earlier I didn't even feel like posting anymore in this thread, but you seem to be in the mood to try to "enlighten" me.

Turn that finger inward.



posted on May, 20 2012 @ 09:28 AM
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Originally posted by Chamberf=6
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Why the hell should I?

Do you have your red pen ready to grade and critique?

I said earlier I didn't even feel like posting anymore in this thread, but you seem to be in the mood to try to "enlighten" me.

Turn that finger inward.


You have nothing but sweeping statements.
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posted on May, 20 2012 @ 09:36 AM
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It is difficult to see what goes on next to you with blinders on. Though, you can see the horizon. Yet, what good is a forward vision if you neglect that which is to your right? And if you want to look towards your right, do you not neglect what is in front of you? In doing all these things, you never even caught a glimpse of what goes on to your left.

Take your blinders off.



posted on May, 20 2012 @ 09:39 AM
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You really want to find a debate don't you.

What I have said is fairly pointed and non ambiguous.

the same cannot be said of your posts.

Just as an example:

You saying twice that all am doing is making sweeping statements is a sweeping statement coming from your direction.

Go poke at someone else that may wish to have a pointless argument on ATS, I for one wish to Enjoy my Sunday.

Remember not to stare directly at the eclipse today, Lao Tzu



posted on May, 20 2012 @ 09:40 AM
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You replied to me.
You told me that 'pure thought' is made of none of the five senses.
You were teaching me, so i am ready for more.

What is 'pure thought' and what is a 'koan'?
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posted on May, 20 2012 @ 09:45 AM
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My request isn't for myself I am me as I am.My request was what place for defenders in general.Too many have put up a response that we are limited as we took a limiting path when in fact it is a path of sacrifice for others.



posted on May, 20 2012 @ 09:52 AM
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Too many have put up a response that we are limited as we took a limiting path when in fact it is a path of sacrifice for others.


"Too many", is a blinder for one of your eyes. Take it off.


My request was what place for defenders in general.


How do you know who is defending and who is attacking if you only look in one direction? Take those blinders off. There is but one defender facing attackers.

PS.

I'm not a master nor ascended.
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posted on May, 20 2012 @ 03:54 PM
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Perhaps this will suffice:
"One (A defender) must be willing to use force,tempered with intelligence,to prevent harm to the innocent.However extraordinary understanding,self discipline and courage are required to effectively prevent brutality,without being overwhelmed by the malice than motivated the brutality."
www.bibliotecapleyades.net...
Interview with an alien.I don't know if this is real but that statement covers what American soldiers try to do as best as we can.Some can't and go mad with the malice,even drunk with it.It is an inhumanly hard thing to do.It is no blinder it is a calling. Not everyone will step into hell knowing where they are going, warriors do it daily,because we love you and the flag,that's all we get really.And the knowledge that maybe others won't have to fight as we had.
Who sent us, why it happened is on them not us.
I do not accept this as a failure the term "Guardian" is throughout all NewAge expressions as so with yours I'm sure.So I suppose I should ask where do guardians go?

PS I am a fighter for a reason, it is in me for a reason.I can disturb a psychic just by standing near one.They sense the violence in my nature.I do of course apologize for disturbing them.It beats being a serial killer any day.
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posted on May, 20 2012 @ 04:48 PM
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I think people get where they are more connected.. It looks like this
but i didn't understand well the question



posted on May, 20 2012 @ 06:52 PM
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I am a fighter for a reason


We all have matters we must overcome. Are you enough of a fighter to overcome the fighting? Enough of a guardian to guard your own soul?

If you cannot find answers in war, would it be crazy to look for peace? You are not Atlas, the weight of the world does not lie on your shoulders. Take those blinders off, see, and be free.



posted on May, 20 2012 @ 07:14 PM
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If there is nothing left to fight that would be true,but there always is.My fight is with my own mortality now I am soon to croak I have COPD and a 15 year expiration date.I'll be taking a trip sooner rather then later.The question does still stand.




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