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Originally posted by jjf3rd77
Originally posted by yourmaker
why are you so pro establishment jj?
Why not? What do I have to gain to go against them? Why can't I work for them/work with them to help myself and friends and family live well and advance in social class?
Originally posted by michaelbrux
reply to post by CityFarmer
that RP has said the same thing for 30 years should be evidence that if he becomes president that he will reverse everything.
the point of him is to be a man who commits the greatest betrayal of trust possible.
a doctor who signs authorizations to kill? which happens to be a part of the job description of president.
no one could be as blind as not to see this.
Originally posted by michaelbrux
reply to post by CityFarmer
that RP has said the same thing for 30 years should be evidence that if he becomes president that he will reverse everything.
the point of him is to be a man who commits the greatest betrayal of trust possible.
a doctor who signs authorizations to kill? which happens to be a part of the job description of president.
no one could be as blind as not to see this.
Originally posted by SaturnFX
so you work for them. Fair enough. But, outside of a paycheck, what legacy are you leaving overall? Sometimes creature comforts of today make for living like a creature tomorrow...you may not be around, but your family will be through generations.
Not saying that being pro-establishment is a bad thing though, if you agree with their politics and long term vision, go for it...but the establishment needs the closest people stabbing them constantly in order to keep their eyes down on the people verses on themselves alone. As a establishment supporter, you should be trying to determine what the party should be like in 50 years from now idealistically and the nation as a whole, which area allows for maximum prosperity. Self interest and family interest alone is the biggest factor in what makes a person corrupt...the desire to build up their social class for themselves and their family. Such pursuits should happen in business, not in politics...
Originally posted by jjf3rd77
But saying stuff for 30 years and actually doing it is a bit different. It's easy to say end the Fed. But if you actually look into the history of the FED which I have. You will see, that it's not going anywhere anytime soon, and nothing Ron Paul has is any better! I suggest you look up wildcat banking on google.
“If the freedom of speech is taken away then dumb and silent we may be led like sheep to the slaughter.” – George Washington
Originally posted by jjf3rd77
Are you proposing that I share my wealth with everyone, even if I don't want to give it all to those who have not worked as hard as I? Because that's communism and my friend I ain't no communist!
Originally posted by SaturnFX
Originally posted by jjf3rd77
Are you proposing that I share my wealth with everyone, even if I don't want to give it all to those who have not worked as hard as I? Because that's communism and my friend I ain't no communist!
Proposing? no..your wealth will be shared..this isn't an option for you..never was. You don't get to opt out of paying for roads everyone uses, nor do you get to opt out of paying for a bridge you will never ride over...pretending like you have a choice in the matter is childish and unrealistic...and the concept is a bit communistic (community being the root word...the rulers of earth realized the average person is so moronic that they would let the forest burn without concern until their specific tree was on fire..so, they impose taxes to build things for the community as a whole, because the average individual is too stupid or selfish to do it themselves).
So, communism (forced community sponsorship) has always and will always be a part of society..the only area to discuss is how much communism is necessary verses capitalistic prosperity. Got to find that nice line
I use the term communism, even though it is an incorrect term, because you have no concept of what communism is, but seem to have redefined it to fit anyhow..so meh.
Enjoy your freedom to use your wealth as you see fit. just don't forget to pay your taxes, else to jail you go