I remember the good old days when even throwing a few molotovs was considered good rioting skills, but "Terrorism"?.... Seriously? Are they such pussies in charge now that demonstrators are considered terrorists?

Even if they did have molotovs or the bottles, rags and fuel for them, to charge them with terrorism is stretching it beyond all reality. I guess terrorism is the 21st century buzzword though, as it enables those in power to dole out harsher beatings, flood the streets with heavily armed goons, fill the skies with drones and generally act all butch, to compensate for their lack of 'nads!

Who doesn't have glass bottles. rags and gasoline at their house?
Desperate acts of desperate men, no, I don't mean the protesters either.

Originally posted by Britguy
I remember the good old days when even throwing a few molotovs was considered good rioting skills, but "Terrorism"?.... Seriously? Are they such pussies in charge now that demonstrators are considered terrorists?

In answer to that question, yes.

The idea is to turn the people against protest. They know that protest is on the rise, with the Occupy movement springing up all over the country. The best way to deal with that is to pay your media lackeys to spread some propaganda to make the idiot masses believe that protest is dangerous, that all protesters are anarchist, or even communists.

We've seen the propaganda agreements between the bankers, the media and PR companies. It is widely known that there is a plan to discredit any and all protest in America, to turn the people against it. Documents were leaked showing that the large banks had been working with a company on a propaganda campaign to turn the uneducated American against the Occupy movement. The news media was a part of that, and now that local police departments and government are feeling the pressure they've joined up to that plan too.

That's why you'll often see people on ATS using language like "commies" and "anarchists", they buy the partisan BS designed to put American against American, they lap up all the propaganda because it gives them an opportunity to cheer-lead for their political opinion or hate on people they see as different to them. It doesn't matter that they often believe the same things, that government is influenced by bankers and corporate interests, they would rather believe that it's some kind of communist movement than accept the truth.

They're the kinds of people who would turn on their own kids to support their narrow party-driven opinions.

It's easy to do when you have the media bought and paid for, you just sow the idea of protest being dangerous and many then choose to stay away for a little longer.

Of course, it won't work, because no matter how hard they work to give the impression that peaceful protest always turns to violence, they are forgetting that millions and millions of people will reach a breaking point eventually.

When a family loses their home, their income and their security, they have nothing left to do but protest. Even stories like this one will not dissuade them from joining the protests.

Having said all of that, we don't know many of the details of this case. But I can guarantee that these are trumped up charges designed to scare people away. I can almost guarantee that the case will be thrown out - and that it won't be reported that it has been. They want to scare people away, and for a little while that will work.

Wait until the € collapses, major US banks fail, the markets crash through the floor... there will not be much space for propaganda in the news, just the scenes of chaos across the country as people loot for everything they'll need to survive the collapse.

"Planned to make"

I absolutely hate any law which comes into conflict with the idea of actually doing something and accusing someone of WANTING to do something - because there is a big different. Based on the logic of this thinking, we should be able to charge anyone who WANTS to commit murder with conspiracy to do so and flood the system even more.

There should never be a punishment for something that was never done. It takes away the human idea of remorse. It sickens me every time I hear someone punished for something that MIGHT have happened, and this is no exception.

Originally posted by Britguy
I remember the good old days when even throwing a few molotovs was considered good rioting skills, but "Terrorism"?.... Seriously? Are they such pussies in charge now that demonstrators are considered terrorists?

It's not a buzzword ... it's basically the ability to throw you jail, without trail ... for the remainder of your remaining life.

It's called fascism ... and it's what you voted into power.

Everyone KNOWS this is bs. How do the police find out 3 people are trying to put gasoline in glass bottles. Youdont exactly need to go through shady nefarious channels to acquire those ingredients. In America they can't stop 9/11 but they can stop molotovs. !
Maybe our police should go to greece where the cocktails fly yearly.

What happened here was a cop overheard people just talking about them which is NOT a crime or the cops made it up. Freedom of speech is gone folks just mentioning key words in discussions at the wrong placee and time and you end up facing hard time. I really wonder where these guys (if they could be convicted under say NDAA, would spend their time? In reality of course they will walk as there is no basis for the charges, but people get wacky when the police or gov toss terrorism in the charge. I sometimes wonder if the "camps" aren't already serving their entire purpose as a symbol of fear.

Does the fact that the G8 has moved to s afer location seem suspicious to anyone else?

I have bad feelings about this NATO summit and what may happen

yeah and they are plotting our future of all us slaves and we are not even included

a molotov was thrown in montreal just yesterday and I don't hear cries of terrorism...

they are incrementally removing all forms of dissent, nothing anti-government will be justified.
no dictator necessary as now they can all share the dictatorship, but eventually that will dwindle and their trust in each other will strain to a point where one takes shots at the others. sad truth.

Were these the ones they arrested???

Well I suppose we finally found out what all these bills being passed were for.

The Patriot Act
The NDAA
SOPA
PIPA
etc.

Now, when you protest our government you get charged with conspiracy to commit terrorism.
This is exactly what we get.
This is what the parents of these young men get.
This is what THEY get.
This is what we ALL get.

When we are collectively ready for this madness to end, it WILL.
We are not ready yet.
It will take someone close to you and I to get locked up on trumped up charges.
It will have to hit home first.

I'll bet the parents of these boys wish they would have been paying more attention when all of these things were getting passed. I'll bet they wish NOW that they would have been protesting BEFORE it was deemed a terrorist act.

These guys didn't NEED to have any molotove coctails or access to them.
The government says you did, then.......YOU DID!!!!
After all, that is what the box in my living room said. Why would it lie to me?
They are guilty so sayeth the box!!!!

We are now living in an Orwellian Nighmare that we can not wake up from.
Can't wait to see this country in 5 short years.
This should be good.