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3 NATO Protesters Face Terror Conspiracy Charges

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posted on May, 19 2012 @ 03:57 AM
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3 NATO Protesters Face Terror Conspiracy Charges


abcnews.go.com

Police say three protesters at the NATO summit in Chicago have been charged with terrorism conspiracy stemming from allegations that they planned to make Molotov cocktails.

Stoppa identified the men charged as 20-year-old Brian Church of Ft. Lauderdale, Fla.; 24-year-old Jared Chase of Keene, N.H.; and 24-year-old Brent Vincent Betterly of Oakland Park, Mass.

Their attorney, Sarah Gelsomino, tells AP the men are "absolutely in shock and have no idea where these charges are coming from."
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posted on May, 19 2012 @ 03:57 AM
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I am not sure if the summit has commenced yet, but wow, people have already been charged with intent and conspiracy to commit terrorism. The terrorism based charges have come from the allegations that the people involved were going to make Molotov cocktails. The men arrested are reported to be shocked at the charges that they have been pinged with. Something tells me this is going to be a long weekend in Chicago...

What does ATS have to say?

abcnews.go.com
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posted on May, 19 2012 @ 04:20 AM
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I remember the good old days when even throwing a few molotovs was considered good rioting skills, but "Terrorism"?.... Seriously? Are they such pussies in charge now that demonstrators are considered terrorists?

Even if they did have molotovs or the bottles, rags and fuel for them, to charge them with terrorism is stretching it beyond all reality. I guess terrorism is the 21st century buzzword though, as it enables those in power to dole out harsher beatings, flood the streets with heavily armed goons, fill the skies with drones and generally act all butch, to compensate for their lack of 'nads!



posted on May, 19 2012 @ 05:01 AM
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Well, in a 2009 Department of Defense training manual for incoming employees, a multiple choice question was asked: 'Which of the following is a form of "low-level terrorism"?' The correct answer was "protest".

ACLU Challenges Defense Department Personel Policy To Regard Lawful Protests As "Low-Level Terrorism"

Only took them 3 years to ditch the "low-level" softener
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posted on May, 19 2012 @ 06:16 AM
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Who doesn't have glass bottles. rags and gasoline at their house?
Desperate acts of desperate men, no, I don't mean the protesters either.

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posted on May, 19 2012 @ 06:53 AM
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Originally posted by Britguy
I remember the good old days when even throwing a few molotovs was considered good rioting skills, but "Terrorism"?.... Seriously? Are they such pussies in charge now that demonstrators are considered terrorists?


In answer to that question, yes.

The idea is to turn the people against protest. They know that protest is on the rise, with the Occupy movement springing up all over the country. The best way to deal with that is to pay your media lackeys to spread some propaganda to make the idiot masses believe that protest is dangerous, that all protesters are anarchist, or even communists.

We've seen the propaganda agreements between the bankers, the media and PR companies. It is widely known that there is a plan to discredit any and all protest in America, to turn the people against it. Documents were leaked showing that the large banks had been working with a company on a propaganda campaign to turn the uneducated American against the Occupy movement. The news media was a part of that, and now that local police departments and government are feeling the pressure they've joined up to that plan too.

That's why you'll often see people on ATS using language like "commies" and "anarchists", they buy the partisan BS designed to put American against American, they lap up all the propaganda because it gives them an opportunity to cheer-lead for their political opinion or hate on people they see as different to them. It doesn't matter that they often believe the same things, that government is influenced by bankers and corporate interests, they would rather believe that it's some kind of communist movement than accept the truth.

They're the kinds of people who would turn on their own kids to support their narrow party-driven opinions.

It's easy to do when you have the media bought and paid for, you just sow the idea of protest being dangerous and many then choose to stay away for a little longer.

Of course, it won't work, because no matter how hard they work to give the impression that peaceful protest always turns to violence, they are forgetting that millions and millions of people will reach a breaking point eventually.

When a family loses their home, their income and their security, they have nothing left to do but protest. Even stories like this one will not dissuade them from joining the protests.

Having said all of that, we don't know many of the details of this case. But I can guarantee that these are trumped up charges designed to scare people away. I can almost guarantee that the case will be thrown out - and that it won't be reported that it has been. They want to scare people away, and for a little while that will work.

Wait until the € collapses, major US banks fail, the markets crash through the floor... there will not be much space for propaganda in the news, just the scenes of chaos across the country as people loot for everything they'll need to survive the collapse.


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posted on May, 19 2012 @ 09:07 AM
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"Planned to make"

I absolutely hate any law which comes into conflict with the idea of actually doing something and accusing someone of WANTING to do something - because there is a big different. Based on the logic of this thinking, we should be able to charge anyone who WANTS to commit murder with conspiracy to do so and flood the system even more.

There should never be a punishment for something that was never done. It takes away the human idea of remorse. It sickens me every time I hear someone punished for something that MIGHT have happened, and this is no exception.



posted on May, 19 2012 @ 09:19 AM
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This is a message going out to all you protesters of evil. Protesting will be met with zero tolerence. We have the power to charge you and lock you up forever, if you don't like what we're doing to you ?

Shut up and take it ? Cattlesheep slaves ! We are your Gods and we say what happens to you. Back in your pen.



posted on May, 19 2012 @ 10:05 AM
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Yep Just saw it too:

usnews.msnbc.msn.com...

Well, guess what, this is exactly what we at ATS have been talking about. You protest and throw a little molotov and you get arrested for terrorism under patriot act and NDAA. No wonder Obama wanted to pass the NDAA before he went to this conference. These NATO are the biggest terrorists there ever lived. Have you seen how many people they have killed, and then they arrest the protestors on terrorism charges!



posted on May, 19 2012 @ 10:12 AM
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Are there going to be big protests in Chicago on May 20th?

EDIT-

Sorry, let me rephrase that!

Are we expecting there to be mass protests in Chicago- a false flag against these people would be sick- but it would put a lot of people off protesting in the future!

This is just crazy.

Will those 3 protestors be chargded via the NDAA?




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posted on May, 19 2012 @ 10:26 AM
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Originally posted by Britguy
I remember the good old days when even throwing a few molotovs was considered good rioting skills, but "Terrorism"?.... Seriously? Are they such pussies in charge now that demonstrators are considered terrorists?


It's not a buzzword ... it's basically the ability to throw you jail, without trail ... for the remainder of your remaining life.

It's called fascism ... and it's what you voted into power.



posted on May, 19 2012 @ 10:30 AM
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Everyone KNOWS this is bs. How do the police find out 3 people are trying to put gasoline in glass bottles. Youdont exactly need to go through shady nefarious channels to acquire those ingredients. In America they can't stop 9/11 but they can stop molotovs. !
Maybe our police should go to greece where the cocktails fly yearly.

What happened here was a cop overheard people just talking about them which is NOT a crime or the cops made it up. Freedom of speech is gone folks just mentioning key words in discussions at the wrong placee and time and you end up facing hard time. I really wonder where these guys (if they could be convicted under say NDAA, would spend their time? In reality of course they will walk as there is no basis for the charges, but people get wacky when the police or gov toss terrorism in the charge. I sometimes wonder if the "camps" aren't already serving their entire purpose as a symbol of fear.
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posted on May, 19 2012 @ 10:33 AM
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Does the fact that the G8 has moved to s afer location seem suspicious to anyone else?

I have bad feelings about this NATO summit and what may happen



posted on May, 19 2012 @ 11:41 AM
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yeah and they are plotting our future of all us slaves and we are not even included



posted on May, 19 2012 @ 11:45 AM
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a molotov was thrown in montreal just yesterday and I don't hear cries of terrorism...

they are incrementally removing all forms of dissent, nothing anti-government will be justified.
no dictator necessary as now they can all share the dictatorship, but eventually that will dwindle and their trust in each other will strain to a point where one takes shots at the others. sad truth.



posted on May, 19 2012 @ 11:51 AM
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Ironically.. the act of terrorism in this story is the police arresting people for thought crimes.
Terrorising people away from their right to protest.

What these protesters need to do is riot like hell and show the cops what it looks like so they will be a little more considerate and thoughtful about where the defining lines are drawn. They are really impeding on our freedom of speech.. is it even illegal to make a molotov cocktail? It's a coke bottle, gas, and a rag.
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posted on May, 19 2012 @ 12:21 PM
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Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL
Yep Just saw it too:

usnews.msnbc.msn.com...

Well, guess what, this is exactly what we at ATS have been talking about. You protest and throw a little molotov and you get arrested for terrorism under patriot act and NDAA. No wonder Obama wanted to pass the NDAA before he went to this conference. These NATO are the biggest terrorists there ever lived. Have you seen how many people they have killed, and then they arrest the protestors on terrorism charges!




So, from what I read in your attached article, they were arrested on the grounds of possessing a suspicious beer home-brew kit. This is getting way out of hand.



posted on May, 19 2012 @ 01:06 PM
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Were these the ones they arrested???




posted on May, 19 2012 @ 01:07 PM
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Well I suppose we finally found out what all these bills being passed were for.

The Patriot Act
The NDAA
SOPA
PIPA
etc.

Now, when you protest our government you get charged with conspiracy to commit terrorism.
This is exactly what we get.
This is what the parents of these young men get.
This is what THEY get.
This is what we ALL get.

When we are collectively ready for this madness to end, it WILL.
We are not ready yet.
It will take someone close to you and I to get locked up on trumped up charges.
It will have to hit home first.

I'll bet the parents of these boys wish they would have been paying more attention when all of these things were getting passed. I'll bet they wish NOW that they would have been protesting BEFORE it was deemed a terrorist act.

These guys didn't NEED to have any molotove coctails or access to them.
The government says you did, then.......YOU DID!!!!
After all, that is what the box in my living room said. Why would it lie to me?
They are guilty so sayeth the box!!!!

We are now living in an Orwellian Nighmare that we can not wake up from.
Can't wait to see this country in 5 short years.
This should be good.


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posted on May, 19 2012 @ 01:09 PM
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Wow the fascist pigs are sloppy. I guess they forgot the laws they tried to pass making filming cops illegal was overturned by a judge. They can't hide. So now they lie.

The three young men facing these serious charges were the same people who posted online a video of a traffic stop wherein police interrogated them about their plans for NATO and made violent threats. Some observers think the arrest is retaliation for the posting of the video, available below.

privacysos




Update, 1:30pm ET: Protesters are gathering outside the bond hearing. The Sheriff originally allowed only three people to enter before allowing 10. Bail has been set at $1.5 million. Mainstream corporate media are reporting that the 3 arrested activists were planning attacks on police stations, the Mayor's home, and the Obama headquarters. Chicago Police admit they had infiltrated organizers. According to the Chicago Sun Times, ¨the undercover operation had been underway for weeks.¨ Lawyers, friends, and family of the accused maintain the ¨bomb making¨ equipment seized by police was actually a homebrew beer-making kit belonging to one of the residents and that the terrorism charges are sensational allegations to terrorize NATO protesters. It seems to have had an opposite effect - #NATO3 is trending on Twitter. A solidarity march has been called for LaSalle and Jackson to Daily Plaza at 3:30PM Central.

occupywallst

These 3 being charged now were part of the pre-emptive raid earlier this week.

According to witnesses in Bridgeport, police broke down a door to access a 6-unit apartment building near 32nd & Morgan Streets without a search warrant. Police entered an apartment with guns drawn and tackled one of the tenants to the floor in his kitchen. Two tenants were handcuffed for more than 2 hours in their living room while police searched their apartment and a neighboring unit, repeatedly calling one of the tenants a "Commie faggot." A search warrant produced 4 hours after police broke into the apartment was missing a judge's signature, according to witnesses. Among items seized by police in the Bridgeport raid were beer-making supplies and at least one cell phone.

occupywallstreet.net

This very much does look like retaliation for posting that video. "We'll come look for you, each and every one of you."




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