Is Sacha Baron Cohen a racist ?

page: 1
3
<<   2  3  4 >>

log in

join

posted on May, 18 2012 @ 01:05 AM
link   
First of all, I don't think he's that funny. Well ok, sometimes he is, but
his roles are often directed towards Arabs/Muslims and it's getting old.

Lately there was an ad which featured Ashton Kutcher as an "Indian"
with a brown face and a funny accent, well they took the ad down due
to so many complaints saying it was racist and offensive.

Sacha Baron Cohen is doing exactly what white American actors did in the past
when they portrayed black people, with black painted face and a funny accent.
Now he's doing it with a brown face, a beard and a funny accent.

Great article from Dean Obeidallah:


Cohen, who is not of Arab heritage, plays this Arab character while sporting a long fake beard and speaking in a strong Arabic accent, which would be fine, except the character is showcasing the worst stereotypes of Arabs.

For example, at a news conference in New York City this week promoting his film, Cohen exclaimed: “Welcome devils of the Zionist media and death to the West.” He then joked about liking TV shows that showed Arab terrorists killing Americans and admiring fashion designer John Galliano for hating the Jews.

To me, this is essentially the same as white performers in blackface portraying black people in buffoonish negative stereotypes for the enjoyment of white America.

But I am not advocating a ban on offensive comments or the telling of culturally insensitive jokes. I certainly am not calling for more PC comedy. I’m not calling for a boycott of anyone nor asking for one more insincere “I’m sorry to all those who were offended by me” from a celebrity.

I’m in no way arguing that Arab culture is off-limits or cannot be mocked. I’m a comedian of Arab heritage and have performed comedy shows not only for Arab-American groups across the United States, but also in the Middle East, from Egypt to Qatar to Saudi Arabia. I find the biggest laughs are elicited when performers hold up a comic mirror to Arab culture.

But for some reason, the entertainment industry appears to truly enjoy ridiculing “brown” people, Arabs and Indians, and has no qualms about casting people not of our heritage to portray us. Indeed, just last week Popchips snack company found itself embroiled in a controversy because an ad showed Ashton Kutcher playing an Indian character in brownface, similar to what Cohen is doing in “The Dictator.”


CNN

Dean Obeidallah: Sacha Cohen’s Movie a Minstrel Show




edit on 18-5-2012 by samsamm9 because: (no reason given)
edit on 18-5-2012 by samsamm9 because: (no reason given)
edit on 18-5-2012 by samsamm9 because: (no reason given)



+5 more 
posted on May, 18 2012 @ 01:16 AM
link   
his comedy is supposed to be social commentary on how how Americans see certain people like arabs., gays, foreigners in general etc,etc But it often flies over peoples heads



posted on May, 18 2012 @ 01:26 AM
link   
Is Dean unfamiliar with the larger body of Cohen's work?

SBC has basically skewered every single group, religion, and sacred thing you can think of, including his own Judaism. Personally, I used to find him funny, but he's really just too crass for me these days. But to charge him as racist because he merely dared to encroach on making fun of yet another group, with whom he has already sparred, in a more focused fashion is absurd.

Dean makes fun of Arab stereotypes all the time, and he also stereotypes other groups to facilitate this otherwise taboo subject.

He must have an album or tour coming up, because his dog don't hunt.



posted on May, 18 2012 @ 01:28 AM
link   
reply to post by paganini
 


Exactly. Cohen's comedy (or at least attempt at such) is no different than that portrayed in The Simpsons and South Park. Focusing on stereotypes and over-exaggerating the extremes. Borat - hardly a good example of the average citizen of Kazakhstan. Brüno - perfect example of a gay stereotype. And so on. This is what comedians do - doesn't necessarily make them racist. Or funny.

Edit to add:


HBO spokesman Quentin Schaffer has replied to criticism concerning Baron Cohen's characters, "Through his alter-egos, he delivers an obvious satire that exposes people's ignorance and prejudice in much the same way All in the Family did years ago." Regarding his portrayal as the anti-Semitic Borat, Baron Cohen says the segments are a "dramatic demonstration of how racism feeds on dumb conformity, as much as rabid bigotry", rather than a display of racism by Baron Cohen himself.

Source
edit on 18-5-2012 by Gemwolf because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 18 2012 @ 01:29 AM
link   
He always plays foreign characters, in Sweeney Todd he's an Italian guy. He doesn't discriminate though, so no. He plays on stereotypes, not just around other countries though, Ali G was from his own country.
edit on 18-5-2012 by SpearMint because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 18 2012 @ 01:31 AM
link   
People often use comedy or jokes to make light of very serious situations as a way of coping with the pain of living in such a whacked out world. This guy's comedy showcases his talents - he isn't just going to Adam Sandler his way through the rest of his career, he is going to do these extreme characters. Let's laugh at the absurdity of the idea that there are multiple human races; the well informed recognize only one.



posted on May, 18 2012 @ 01:53 AM
link   
How isn't a racist? Seriously, everyone has a prejudice against everyone. Just try to prove that you don't.



posted on May, 18 2012 @ 01:55 AM
link   
Ali-G a racialst?

You must be pulling a leg, innit.




posted on May, 18 2012 @ 01:57 AM
link   
What about if someone in Great Britian tried to make a joke in a similar vein as Cohen. Would they get punished?



posted on May, 18 2012 @ 01:58 AM
link   
So basically "black face" comedy is not offensive to black people ?

And why did the Indians feel offended by the Ashton Kutcher ad ?



posted on May, 18 2012 @ 02:01 AM
link   

Originally posted by satron
What about if someone in Great Britian tried to make a joke in a similar vein as Cohen. Would they get punished?


Um, "Baron Cohen, the middle of three brothers, was born in Hammersmith, West London."

He IS a pom, so why do you think he would get punished?



posted on May, 18 2012 @ 02:02 AM
link   
reply to post by samsamm9
 


Ya know the irony of black face, at least in Aus, is we got blasted for it recently, when it was people with dark skin who were performing the skit. Dark skinned Aussies.

That's how stupid it all is.



posted on May, 18 2012 @ 02:06 AM
link   
post removed for serious violation of ATS Terms & Conditions



posted on May, 18 2012 @ 02:10 AM
link   

Originally posted by spoor

Originally posted by satron
What about if someone in Great Britian tried to make a joke in a similar vein as Cohen. Would they get punished?


Um, "Baron Cohen, the middle of three brothers, was born in Hammersmith, West London."

He IS a pom, so why do you think he would get punished?


I've seen that the British are more stringent on racism.



posted on May, 18 2012 @ 02:14 AM
link   

Originally posted by satron
I've seen that the British are more stringent on racism.


Well, as Sacha Baron Cohen is not racist why would it matter?



posted on May, 18 2012 @ 02:18 AM
link   
no, just a reaaaaaly bad comedian



posted on May, 18 2012 @ 02:21 AM
link   

Originally posted by spoor

Originally posted by satron
I've seen that the British are more stringent on racism.


Well, as Sacha Baron Cohen is not racist why would it matter?


Because some of his spiel could be interpreted as racist. It doesn't matter if he is or not, it's other people's perception of his act.
edit on 18-5-2012 by satron because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 18 2012 @ 02:25 AM
link   
reply to post by samsamm9
 


Satire ... Heard of it?


Satire is primarily a literary genre or form, although in practice it can also be found in the graphic and performing arts. In satire, vices, follies, abuses, and shortcomings are held up to ridicule, ideally with the intent of shaming individuals, and society itself, into improvement. Although satire is usually meant to be funny, its greater purpose is often constructive social criticism, using wit as a weapon.


It's funny really. The reaction in the OP, is likely just the kind of reaction he's after.

I haven't seen his new film, but his charcaters are meant to shock.

From Ali-G to Borat to Bruno. These characters are meant to bring out and show the ignorance, bigotry and idiocy in our society.

edit on 18-5-2012 by skitzspiricy because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 18 2012 @ 02:28 AM
link   

Originally posted by samsamm9
So basically "black face" comedy is not offensive to black people ?

And why did the Indians feel offended by the Ashton Kutcher ad ?



Remember that movie White Chicks?



posted on May, 18 2012 @ 02:29 AM
link   
reply to post by FoundingSon
 


Please indulge us be mentioning your favorite comedians. Or did you really want to make one of those worthless one line posts that are so frowned upon? Something tells me you are into Dane Cook.





new topics
top topics
 
3
<<   2  3  4 >>

log in

join