Why the 2012 Phenomenon is Real!

reply to post by InTheFlesh1980

Well, at least you made it to the end! Congratulations on that. That's no mean feat!

And those predictions are not mine. I'm not that smart. They come from virtually all indigenous peoples and almost any lightworker leader or websites, and I cite at least ten of them.

We all believe those predictions, and can see evidence they are coming true if you know where to look. Someday you will too.
Just try to have a more open and loving attitude.

reply to post by InTheFlesh1980

One more thing that's even more important.

As you can see from just looking around you and reading the current news (I put some of the more relevant ones at the top of the article), this world appears to be going downhill FAST!.

You can continue believing in going downhill and maybe continue to be part of the problem.
Or you can believe in the only other reasonable alternative - going uphill toward a new Golden Age of man.

I and many others chose the later and are working to manifest those positive events.
I hope the rest of you come around too.
I did not say it would be easy. We need all the help we can get!

I'm briefly skimmed it and I'm sorry but I can't take anything that treats Drunvalo Melchizedek and Sorcha Faal as legitimate sources seriously.

Originally posted by Xcalibur254
I'm briefly skimmed it and I'm sorry but I can't take anything that treats Drunvalo Melchizedek and Sorcha Faal as legitimate sources seriously.

Even when they're backed up by multiple other sources?
That's just two. You have at least a 100 more to go!

reply to post by Apollo7


Sweden has not gone cashless, I bought a pizza with cash just today.

Otherwise, interesting thread, I have had some experiences pointing to the reality of this.

reply to post by fah0436


I'll do a full dissection depending on how much free time I have tomorrow. I will say though from just a scanning it seems like a shotgun approach to the topic. I mean you even include Sitchin who said nothing about 2012. After my scanning I do I have a few other points but I'll keep them to myself for now. I will ask a question though. Why did you think 2012 was special in the first place?

reply to post by Xcalibur254

It's in the article. The most important source was Geoff Stray's 2012 In Your Pocket.
I was amazed at all the stuff he found that was either directly related or very close to 2012.
I even made up a spreadsheet that has all of his data broken up a number of different ways.

To go much further, I had to rely a lot on channeled material which was completely new to me.
The first channeled material I read was Patrica Cori's Sirian Revelation books which resonated VERY closely with all the other material I had been exposed to.

Interesting, I just hope no 16 year old girls get to read this, as far as fear goes, this is right up there. Good read but its nothing i havnt heard before.

reply to post by fah0436


The problem is you can't really trust channeled material.Even if a person isn't hoaxing it's more likely that the message they are receiving are coming from their unconscious. For example ask yourself why there is no channeled material that refers to 2012 before 1983 when the GMT correlation placed the end of the 13th baktun at December 21, 2012.

reply to post by Xcalibur254

I generally agree as you'll find in the article. I do try wherever possible to use multiple sources. If insider info and channeled stuff agree, I tend to consider the info factual.

reply to post by DarthPhobos


If anyone reads this past the first paragraph they should take away an extremely positive message.
I tried very hard to NOT make the article not just more fear porn.

ETA But change is scary. And we are in an immense cycle of change. No one can avoid that. They must learn to deal with it.

reply to post by fah0436


Let's take a look over this stuff one item at a time.

Let's begin with 1 which you title in the OP "Mass Arrests are Imminent! "

The over 773 resignations is probably true. There are always lots of these resignations. People shift from job to job all of the time and people quit and take golden parachutes. They get forced out because they stink at their jobs. This is normal. Been going on for years.

Most important to notice: that has nothing to do with what follows.

You claim that all sorts of arrests are imminent. That's baloney. That baloney claim has been made every year for at least the last 25 years. Beginning back with 1984 there was this claim. Made all of the time. No matter how often that claim is made it will always be wrong.

In 1.2 you claim that martial law exists in the US. Breaking news - that's false too. Two strikes.

DHS is not preparing for civil war. Where did you get that tidbit? Did it come from some nutcase militant group?

The old imminent alien disclosure claim. That's been recycled for decades as well. To paraphrase Annie:

"Tomorrow, tomorrow, I'll tell you tomorrow."

So two occupy groups have actually written something. Jolly good for them. Having saved all of that energy by not marching I'm glad to see that this fizzle out occupy movement did something with their time.

It is now mathematically IMPOSSIBLE to ever balance the U.S. Budget. And the U.S. is actually in worse financial shape that Greece, not to mention the rest of the European Union! How long before it ALL collapses???

You hanging out with a militant group headed by Major Nincompoop? I'd love to see this math.

The New York Times is reporting that the FBI is the largest terrorist organization in the world and responsible for the vast majority of terror plots!

Please provide a link.

The above will be hitting the main stream media shortly!

Are you saying it is time for Annie to sing again?

provide extensive evidence

Nothing provided so far. Will check part 2 later.

reply to post by fah0436

To go much further, I had to rely a lot on channeled material which was completely new to me.
The first channeled material I read was Patrica Cori's Sirian Revelation books which resonated VERY closely with all the other material I had been exposed to.

Channelers used to be called mediums. Back then they let you talk to dead relatives. Problem was that they kept getting caught making mistakes. So now the channelers let you take to ancient warriors and aliens. Hard to show that a mistake was made.

Then again no channeler has ever provided verifiable information not known through other means. For example, has a channeler ever provided the location of an archaeological site telling what was there before the ground is opened up? No. Why not? Why can't they point to a location where a building foundation can be found?

reply to post by fah0436

The Mayans, the Aztecs, the Hopis, the Aborigines, the Dogons, the Eskimos and virtually every other indigenous culture believe that a new golden age on earth is imminent.

None of those you mention believe such a thing. XCalibur254 is sure to have the information about the Mayan. You mention no Europeans. They are indigenous people. You do not mention anyone in Asia. They are indigenous as well.

This is what is behind the Mayan date of 2012

The Mayans stated nothing about 2012 other than a ceremony was to take place. This golden age claim is not from the indigenous. It is from New Yorkers called New Agers. Hardly the words of the indigenous.

Our governments, monetary and social systems will collapse and be almost immediately replaced with much better systems already waiting in the wings to minimize transition problems.

That's the yen for the easy button. It sounds like the ending of "Lord of the Flies" when adults rescue the kids.

Our bodies will change and we will regain many lost ESP like capabilities.

Just more New Age claims. This is from Drunvalo and his associates isn't it?

This is needed so the rest of humanity can concentrate on the other needed changes and so we can celebrate and enjoy our new life filled with love, light and the abundance which has been stolen from us!

Yes-sir-ree, it is a wish for the easy button.

Guess what? That is not going to happen. The universe is not going to change. Magic won't happen. The glass slipper won't fit anyone. People will just have to try and get along as best they can. Despite all of the TV shows out there no one will get super powers.

reply to post by stereologist


You sure do like to nitpick. That's what I mostly see from you.

I will respond to two items.
Martial Law. Perhaps it would be better for me to have said the full capability FOR martial law is in effect. But i still agree that "for all practical purposes" !!! True we don't have military on each corner yet. And thankfully it is being opposed on lots of fronts. Which is indirectly one of the key points in the article. But the following query got millions of hits so it is VERY debatable:

www.google.com...:en-USfficial&client=firefox-a

Medium's, psychics and channelers:
Granted is a very troublesome and worrying field, but it has been proven to be valuable. To dismiss it completely is a big mistake.
Two phrases: Edgar Cayce and John Edward

reply to post by fah0436

Conservative NASA scientists are using superlatives to describe multiple MAJOR changes occurring to literally every single planet in the solar system as well as the sun itself.

That's not true is it? The sun and planets are not static. As we get more technological capabilities we are learn and able to do more observing than ever before.

As just one example the atmospheric pressure of Pluto has increased 300% while moving AWAY from the sun.

So some frozen gases boiled off the surface of Pluto. As Pluto moves away from the Sun these gases are coalescing into an atmosphere.

The probable scientific reason for all of this is that our solar system is approaching a galactic alignment with an immense energy field.

I'm pretty sure you did not get that from a scientific source. In fact I think you found that on any of thousands of sites proclaiming fake stuff.

A much better source with hundreds of URL’s (many from NASA) can be found in Wilcock: The Source Field Investigations – all of chapter 18.

There you go. That's one of the folks promoting nonsense. Wilcock likes to provide a statement and then gives a link to a place that does not support his wild eyed nonsense.

The increased energy seems very similar to the immense waves of energy given off by spinning wheel objects like our galaxy directly along the plane of the equator. Our solar system travels in a sine wave across the plane of the galactic equator and such an alignment occurs roughly every 64 million years and is now in process. This alignment lasts roughly 36 years from 1980 to 2016 with the midpoint at 1998.

If immense energy was being radiated then the object would be slowing down. No. Spinning does not cause energy to be radiated in waves. You are also mixing up alignments. We are some 20My away from going by the galactic plane.

reply to post by fah0436

You sure do like to nitpick. That's what I mostly see from you.

Nice excuse for being wrong in almost everything you posted.

Martial Law. Perhaps it would be better for me to have said the full capability FOR martial law is in effect.

If all you are saying is that the US could declare martial law in parts of the US then that would be correct. Martial law has been invoked in the US a number of times. So what?

True we don't have military on each corner yet. And thankfully it is being opposed on lots of fronts.

Another excuse. The US does not and has not invoked martial law unless extraordinary conditions exist such as lives in danger.

Which is indirectly one of the key points in the article. But the following query got millions of hits so it is VERY debatable

That has no bearing on the issue. Just because there are hits is meaningless. The fact is that there is no effort to implement martial law. Who is going to implement martial law? The military. Who are the military? They are people like you and I. How could martial law be declared across the US without a half million or more people? You think they'd all keep a secret?

Think about it. How could this be kept secret?

reply to post by fah0436

Medium's, psychics and channelers:
Granted is a very troublesome and worrying field, but it has been proven to be valuable. To dismiss it completely is a big mistake.
Two phrases: Edgar Cayce and John Edward

So you name the sleeping prophet whose claims have been a failure time and time again. The other is John Edward the cold reader pretending to be something else like a mind reader.

Great.

reply to post by fah0436


When do you think the arrests will take place?

reply to post by stereologist


You're the one making wild ass non-supported claims. I see no URL's or references from YOU!

Go ahead - debunk any one of the 172 references Wilcock has in just chapter 18 of Source Fields that discuss solar system changes. In my view, he's one of the best researchers out there - especially in the new age area which you obviously detest. Graham Hancock think so too and proof read the book, but I just that means nothing to you either. Or you could maybe supply just one reference that debunks any of the material in his recent financial tryanny articles on his website?

And if you know anything about Cayce you should know that over 90% of his remote healing reading have been prove to be correct. But obviously that's not good enough for you. You would insist of 100%.

I'm done with you. You just sling mud and hope it sticks.