reply to post by buster2010
Bingo. You sadly contradict yourself a bit, since you state that all start as a cult (implies that at a some point they may cease to be a cult), to
what I agree but you do not complete that reasoning...
CULT - Secret or modeled like a secret society
RELIGION - All dogmas are open to scrutiny, some non religious information may be private
CULT - Deceit in recruitment, information is provided in steps
RELIGION - Most if not all information is offered up front
CULT - Totalitarian
RELIGION - Allows freedom of thought/members have a say
CULT - Destroys that family unit and promotes segregation from society (Isolates its members from non mombers)
RELIGION - Promotes the family unit and participation in society. Works within society
CULT - Keeps non-believers out
RELIGION - Open to general community
CULT - Limits development of individual outside of cult's interests
RELIGION - Interested in promoting potential in accordance to dogma and human liberties
CULT - Exploits and manipulates its members/mind control techniques. Normally it involves money transference. Involves mismanagement of funds to
leadership interests outside of public stated cult's interests.
RELIGION - While there are guidelines members are not systematically controlled. Avoids taxation in exchange to service to community.
CULT - Commitment is encouraged during recruitment process. People are prevented from leaving (psychologically of physically)
RELIGION - Thought before commitment is encouraged as part of conversion process. Exiting may exclude practice of some rituals (but not
CULT - Criticism is met with threats of legal action and often suffer illegal sanctions or persecution.
RELIGION - People are free to speak out against the tenets of a religion.
CULT - Follower consider leader to be above reproach. Strictly pyramidal structure.
RELIGION - Clergy are expected to be responsible for their words and actions, They are considered at best knowledgeable pears.
CULT - Questioning the leader, or basic tenets, is not allowed, often discouraged or sanctioned.
RELIGION - Critical thinking is allowed and sometimes even encouraged. (ie Bible study groups)
CULT - Includes vows of obedience to a human hierarchy. Goes beyond "normal" mysticism (main religions and beliefs). Often based on fear.
RELIGION - Based on respect for the hierarchy and respect of the beliefs of others.
Based on the table presented on www.cultclinic.org...
(with a few rapid modifications).
PS: All organized forms of cult and religion are intrinsically evil as they limit human experience and freedom of thought. Even Buddhism has this
fault. All cults and religions should not require human intermediaries, even the most stoic atheist believe is something besides himself be it of
human origin or of natural origin (I have yet to meet a true and serious atheist). Faith in something is good and powerful, even if in science,
permits the creation of a positive outlook and motivates us to exceed ourselves and aspire to something more if not only more knowledge and
understanding of what surrounds us.
Hierarchic science at times is as bad as organized religions...
edit on 18-5-2012 by Panic2k11 because: (no reason given)