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Complaints over use of 'Asian' label in grooming cases

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posted on May, 17 2012 @ 03:17 PM
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Groups representing Sikh and Hindu communities have complained about the term "Asian" being used to describe the men involved in recent UK trials where 9 Muslims have been convicted of a grooming white girls as young as 13 for sex BBC.

Muslims who commit crimes in the UK are routinely referred to as 'Asian' by the media. In light of the recent high publicity trial, non Muslim Asians have objected to this.

The case itself has in fact been something of a watershed in the UK with a Judge stating that the gang preyed on five girls, aged between 13 and 15, partly because they were from different 'community and religion' Link and the head of the Equality and Human Rights Commission stating that race was relevant Link and that it would be a national scandal if it turned out the authorities had failed to intervene to protect the children because of fears that it would lead to the "demonisation" of the Asian community.


Groups representing Sikh and Hindu communities have complained about the term "Asian" being used to describe the men involved in grooming trials.

Earlier this month, nine men were jailed for being part of a sex ring in Rochdale which groomed girls for sex.

The groups said the men involved were "almost always of Pakistani origin" and the term "Asian" was inaccurate.

The Ramadan Foundation has said grooming is "a significant problem for the British Pakistani community".

The joint statement was released by the Network of Sikh Organisations UK, The Hindu Forum of Britain, and The Sikh Media Monitoring Group UK.

It says the reluctance of the media and the government to discuss the "disproportionate representation of Muslims in such cases" and the fact victims are "almost always non-Muslim girls" is adding to the cause of far-right groups such as the BNP.

It said blanket use of the word "Asian" was "unfair to other communities of Asian origin".

"We believe that in this case the government itself is sanctioning the use of term Asian as a way of clouding responsibility," the groups say.

BBC


I am not suprised that the Sikhs and Hindus have objected to the media being politically correct and associating them rapists who are all of Pakistani origin.




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posted on May, 17 2012 @ 03:23 PM
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surely this is a simple problem to solve.....get them in a room and let them come up with an 'approved' name and job done but due to British PC it'll probably have to change every week so all we need is a website where we can get the current official word of the week and a reference number so that we can date when the new name was referenced



posted on May, 17 2012 @ 03:28 PM
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They should shut up moaning, Asian is the nicest word we have for these men around these parts


Although, ye, on after thought, the rest of the Asian world shouldnt have to stereo typed with these guys, we love the Chinese over here!
lol

No, I think you should name there race appropriatley, for the sake of keeping an eye on trends, example... Its estimated 80% of gang rapes in England are commited by Pakistanis..

I watched a channel four doc uncovering it, and trust me the Paki communities she interviews were LESS than sincere! They target white girls only and said its our fault for looking too up for it, they cannot target other Asians as all the families are in a tight nit community!

Looking up for it my arse! I got asked by 4 men in the space of ten minutes if I was on the game standing at a bus stop, in my *training tracksuit*.

No I'm not on the fekking game you dirty perverts, I'm trying to get to the army base where I have an appointment, and for some silly reason its located in Pakistani town!!

The biggest problem is that the police refuse to accept race and culture ARE playing a big part in these crimes!
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posted on May, 17 2012 @ 03:30 PM
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Never mind British PC! Fat Americans want to out law the word "obese" LOL

Keep living in fairy land you fat foooks lmaoo



posted on May, 17 2012 @ 03:35 PM
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hello, as soon as i saw this article in the paper it made my blood boil, the media are intentionally creating a divide between all of us, if it had been a white british gang then the media wouldn't have even mentioned ethnicity so they were bang out of order for doing that. Unfortunately most people don't realise that they are being brainwashed by the media on so many levels, together we stand, divided we fall....



posted on May, 17 2012 @ 03:36 PM
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It's strange because just over the ocean we only refer to Pakistani, Indians and Sikhs as "South Asian", if you are referring to Asians you are speaking about people from Japan, Korea, China, Vietnam, Laos, Thailand, etc.

Of course those mentioned are from a different group than South Asians. And while South Asian is still vague, it's the same part of the world.

It is the difference between saying Arab or Jordanian. You have a Jordanian Arab who could be called either or, just one being more specific.

Then you can have different groups and dialect speaking people within a ethnic group or community.

People need to stop being so worried about offending groups by describing them as they describe themselves or as they are known by in their community. And yes culture has a huge impact over the actions of certain groups, and in some cases it can be very good things or very bad things, but I don't see the harm in recognizing it without prejudice.



posted on May, 17 2012 @ 03:38 PM
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There IS an agenda to divide and conquer us, but also at the same time, you cannot argue with the facts, see my first post.

The fact is these crimes are commited far less by white men because most of us over here are raised on the basis any thing goes apart from perverts! Murder can some times be forgiven... Sexual abuse, no.



posted on May, 17 2012 @ 03:40 PM
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Completely agree with you, hence they should be named by race appropriately



posted on May, 17 2012 @ 03:40 PM
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Originally posted by Minnie1985
hello, as soon as i saw this article in the paper it made my blood boil, the media are intentionally creating a divide between all of us, if it had been a white british gang then the media wouldn't have even mentioned ethnicity so they were bang out of order for doing that. Unfortunately most people don't realise that they are being brainwashed by the media on so many levels, together we stand, divided we fall....


Perhaps you are correct, however both the judge of the case and the coloured head of UK Equality and Human Rights Commission have stated that race was an issue. See OP for links.

Historian David Starkey has stated that the Muslims were acting within their cultural norms. Link



posted on May, 17 2012 @ 03:44 PM
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Originally posted by Sinny
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Completely agree with you, hence they should be named by race appropriately


Exactly. There are huge differences in many ethnic groups, simply saying "Asian" or "South Asian" is fine in some circumstances, but I find it a little racist in that it is only describing a skin color. Which is strange because people often think they are being politically correct in this labeling.

Had it been more specific, Sikh, Chinese, etc. Then if you are familiar with those groups it gives you much more information. Sikh just recently had their new years celebration with thousands of them on the streets. If someone were to refer to them as having a "South Asian" new years gathering, it would make no sense. As it was a Sikh new years celebration.



posted on May, 17 2012 @ 03:59 PM
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hi Sinny, we must have been typing our replies to the op at the same time, i'll start by saying that i'm always dubious about posting as i worry sometimes i come across as blunt, but this couldn't be further from the truth, any post from me will always be done in the utmost good faith,

You said that i couldn't argue with the facts, but your post below is just an estimate,

Its estimated 80% of gang rapes in England are commited by Pakistanis..

Thank you



posted on May, 17 2012 @ 04:38 PM
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I think it is a fact, I was just recalling from a documentary after all, ill google it and get back to ya, but surely 80% give or take 10 is is worrying on its own?



posted on May, 17 2012 @ 06:48 PM
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Originally posted by Sinny
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Never mind British PC! Fat Americans want to out law the word "obese" LOL

Keep living in fairy land you fat foooks lmaoo


Okay then, enjoy your home in Pakistani gang rape land.

Maybe when they install your new government, it won't be so weak as to allow yourselves to be socially invaded.
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