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posted on May, 20 2012 @ 12:43 PM
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Thank you innerlight, that was a beautiful post, and all that needs to be said on the subject,

Yes, character.


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posted on May, 20 2012 @ 12:45 PM
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Originally posted by xuenchen
reply to post by Xtrozero
 


The pamphlet / booklet is not a fraud.

The Obama Campaign has acknowledged it and published a "rebuttal".

(related thread)
Obama Campaign Responds to Breitbart 'Kenya' Booklet Story !!


Obama is in Big Trouble with this fiasco.

We can see by how the reactive responses are coming, and by the off topic references continuing.





Foxy, mate, stop stirring the pot and then laughing at the responses!



posted on May, 20 2012 @ 12:46 PM
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Originally posted by jimmyx

Originally posted by xuenchen
reply to post by Xtrozero
 


The pamphlet / booklet is not a fraud.

The Obama Campaign has acknowledged it and published a "rebuttal".

(related thread)
Obama Campaign Responds to Breitbart 'Kenya' Booklet Story !!


Obama is in Big Trouble with this fiasco.

We can see by how the reactive responses are coming, and by the off topic references continuing.





the author says it is incorrect...of course, you won't believe that....that would make a rigid arguement into a flaccid one. and the one thing the GOP does not want to have against a black liberal president is a flaccid arguement.



What makes you assume everyone in this thread who thinks this pamphlet raises some questions is GOP? You seem to be attempting to box in the topic. Everyone posting here must be a birther and a GOP member...Why do you bring up the president's race?

The author, Miriam Goderich has been proven to be a committed financial supporter of President Obama...there are many reasons to ask questions about this....

Results 1–3 of 3 contributions totaling $2,000 for election cycles 2008, 2010, 2012. Contributions data provided by the Center for Responsive Politics.
Date Amount Recipient State Contributor Interest Group Occupation/Employer City State Zip
9/3/2008 $1,000 Barack Obama [about] IL Senate Dystel, Jane Employer listed but category unknown Literary Agent / Dystel & Goderich Literary Manageme NEW YORK NY 10128
10/24/2008 $500 Barack Obama [about] IL Senate Dystel, Jane Employer listed but category unknown Dystel & Goderich Literary Manageme New York NY 10128
11/3/2008 $500 Barack Obama [about] IL Senate Dystel, Jane Employer listed but category unknown Dystel & Goderich Literary Manageme New York NY 10128
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posted on May, 20 2012 @ 12:59 PM
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Originally posted by jimmyx

Originally posted by xuenchen
reply to post by Xtrozero
 


The pamphlet / booklet is not a fraud.

The Obama Campaign has acknowledged it and published a "rebuttal".

(related thread)
Obama Campaign Responds to Breitbart 'Kenya' Booklet Story !!


Obama is in Big Trouble with this fiasco.

We can see by how the reactive responses are coming, and by the off topic references continuing.





the author says it is incorrect...of course, you won't believe that....that would make a rigid arguement into a flaccid one. and the one thing the GOP does not want to have against a black liberal president is a flaccid arguement.


It's all about Perception my friend.

Perception

Perception

Perception



This boondoggle will change many voters' Perception of what Obama is or isn't !!

NOW,

What about that other little "problem" .....

You know .... the part that says Obama Sr. was a "Kenyan Finance Minister"


Obama Sr was Never a "Kenyan Finance Minister" now was he ??

Where did Ms. Goderich get THAT info from ????

And how does anybody even know for 100% certain that Ms. Goderich was actually the "literary agent" in 1991 ??

Why take HER word for it ???

For all we know, maybe she has been chosen to be the scapegoat now








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posted on May, 20 2012 @ 01:22 PM
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www.netwo.org...



And how do even know for 100% certain that Ms. Goderich was actually the "literary agent" in 1991 ??


There is web site that says she began working at the literary agency in 1995?


Miriam Goderich, completed a Masters Degree in English from Columbia University, and immediately when to work for Jane Dystel Literary Management. Six years later, she became a partner in the agency. In 2003, the agency was renamed to be Dystel and Goderich Literary Management.


Hot dang, Columbia. lol


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posted on May, 20 2012 @ 01:32 PM
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See !!

We can't even be sure that Miriam Goderich was the literary agent in 1991 !!!!!

This could be another "fact checking error"


Now What !!!




posted on May, 20 2012 @ 01:37 PM
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Originally posted by xuenchen
reply to post by Stormdancer777
 




See !!

We can't even be sure that Miriam Goderich was the literary agent in 1991 !!!!!

This could be another "fact checking error"


Now What !!!



That's true I am looking for more info on her like her age, when she graduated.



posted on May, 20 2012 @ 01:43 PM
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Originally posted by Stormdancer777
reply to post by xuenchen
 

www.netwo.org...



And how do even know for 100% certain that Ms. Goderich was actually the "literary agent" in 1991 ??


There is web site that says she began working at the literary agency in 1995?


Miriam Goderich, completed a Masters Degree in English from Columbia University, and immediately when to work for Jane Dystel Literary Management. Six years later, she became a partner in the agency. In 2003, the agency was renamed to be Dystel and Goderich Literary Management.


Hot dang, Columbia. lol


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Great catch,if true !!!

What lengths does the facade go?



posted on May, 20 2012 @ 02:02 PM
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Let's talk about Columbia for a SECOND

Columbia University and Communism
historyhalf.com...

List of characters,


When it comes to left wing politics, however, one university stands alone as the all-time champion. Columbia University has been a training ground for America-hating radicals since at least the start of the twentieth century. The left has had to take new directions since the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991, but before that, leftist scholars from Columbia often expressed their loathing of the American way by supporting Soviet-centered Communism, as the following examples will show.



In 1991 the Soviet Union sank ignominiously onto the ash-heap of history, and Soviet sympathizers in this country were left without a cause. Next week’s post will look at the left wing causes Columbia scholars have adopted since the fall of Soviet Communism.


ew 1991, I love dates.

Columbia University Today


Last week’s HistoryHalf post described Columbia University’s historic role as a meeting place and recruitment center for Soviet sympathizers and agents during the Cold war. From 1917 through the late 1980’s, Soviet Communism was a great unifying cause for leftist radicals, and Columbia was the most Moscow-friendly of all the universities in the United States. The Columbia scholars profiled last week all communicated with the Soviet government through one channel or another, and most of them actually worked as spies.


the spies among us


The world is full of anti-American, anti-democratic, anti-capitalist movements, some of which were never closely connected to the Communist International or the Soviet Union;and Columbia professors and grads have been among the leaders of most of them.


Sound familiar?

Obama class of 1983


Manning Marable

Columbia hired Professor Manning Marable in 1991. Marable is a self-described Marxist who writes magazine articles about how Fidel Castro’s Communism has cured all the ills that the evil United States imposed on Cuba back in the bad old days. He is a member of the Communist splinter group “Committees of Correspondence,” with other radicals like Angela Davis.


en.wikipedia.org...


At the time of his death, Marable had completed a biography of human rights activist Malcolm X, entitled Malcolm X: A Life of Reinvention,


ooooH how cool he even wrote about Malcolm X.

and endorsed Obama of course.


William Ayers

William Ayers got his Masters of Education at Columbia in 1987, several years after he planted bombs





President Obama

President Barack Obama, like President Franklin Roosevelt before him, studied at Columbia. He received his BA in Political Science in 1983. It would appear that he imbibed Columbia’s radical atmosphere pretty deeply. He took a class taught by Edward Said, and maintained a relationship with him until Said’s death. He later served with William Ayers on the board of a foundation that gave money to radical causes, including a group headed by Rashid Khalidi. He launched his political career at a fund raiser at Ayers’ home. In 2008 Manning Marable supported then-Senator Obama in his run for the White House, saying that Obama would make a good president because “a lot of people working with him are, indeed, socialists with backgrounds in the Communist Party.”

historyhalf.com...

Obama would make a good president because “a lot of people working with him are, indeed, socialists with backgrounds in the Communist Party.”
Manning Marable



posted on May, 20 2012 @ 02:03 PM
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Originally posted by xuenchen
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See !!

We can't even be sure that Miriam Goderich was the literary agent in 1991 !!!!!

This could be another "fact checking error"


Now What !!!



Obviously, the literary agent was Jane Dystel. The original article says that she carried Obama over as a client when she started Jane Dystel Literary Management, after she left Acton & Dystel.

So, Miriam Goderich must have been the person responsible for making updates and changes after she joined Jane.
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posted on May, 20 2012 @ 02:17 PM
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to what lengths does it go?
All the way to the top.

www.trevorloudon.com... /


“When this information is examined in context,” Loudon and Kincaid stated, “it is clear that Panetta, whose nomination to be CIA director was considered mystifying even to those in the intelligence business, has been a key component of a network of left-wing activists and socialist organizations for over two decades. These individuals and groups include not only Hugh DeLacy and his communist associates but the communist-dominated Progressive Party, Democratic Socialists of America and the neo-Marxist New American Movement. Panetta, in short, was a player in the network that sponsored the political career of a young Barack Obama in Chicago. This helps explain why Panetta was picked, seemingly out of nowhere, for the CIA job.”



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posted on May, 20 2012 @ 02:19 PM
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Yep.

Very strange.

Somethings not adding up here.


Miriam Goderich, who helped edit a 1991 booklet for Barack Obama's then-literary agency, Acton & Dystel, which erroneously stated that Obama had been born in Kenya, has issued a press release--first reported by her own client

A 'Fact Checking Error'--Again, and Again, and Again...



and btw ... Ms Goderich is an immigrant from Spain


Wheeeww....time for a music break !


Marie Osmond - Who's Sorry Now -- lyrics only




Everybody's Somebody's Fool---Connie Francis -- lyrics only



posted on May, 20 2012 @ 02:20 PM
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Originally posted by Stormdancer777
Obama would make a good president because “a lot of people working with him are, indeed, socialists with backgrounds in the Communist Party.”
Manning Marable


Sorry, but that website you quoted from is a dribblingly insane place that sees reds under beds all over the place.



posted on May, 20 2012 @ 02:21 PM
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Wow, talk about connecting the dots! What a picture! Let me say for the record, I am an agnostic when it comes to the birth issue. I don't know (yet) where the man was born but I am beginning to understand just how he was bred. And the Bill Ayers connection has always bothered me.


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posted on May, 20 2012 @ 02:47 PM
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Originally posted by queenofswords
reply to post by Stormdancer777
 

Wow, talk about connecting the dots! What a picture! Let me say for the record, I am an agnostic when it comes to the birth issue. I don't know (yet) where the man was born but I am beginning to understand just how he was bred. And the Bill Ayers connection has always bothered me.


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Sorry, but what Bill Ayers connection? I thought that Ayers has long since disavowed his old beliefs?



posted on May, 20 2012 @ 03:06 PM
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Maybe we are barking up the wrong tree, ignore the scapegoat,


why doesn’t some enterprising MSM reporter track down Obama’s former literary agent, Jane Dystel, and ask her who really wrote Dreams From My Father? It’s not like she’s in hiding)


April 24,
DYSTEL IS THE KEY TO SO MUCH ABOUT OBAMA,
astuteblogger.blogspot.com...



JANE DYSTEL(USE THIS LINK AND KEEP SCROLLING), THE LITERARY AGENT WHO FOUND OBAMA AND CONVINCED HIM TO WRITE HIS AUTOBIOGRAPHY AND WHO SOLD IT...

... AND WHO SUED OBAMA WHEN HE VIOLATED THE TERMS OF THEIR CONTRACT - A SUIT THAT WAS SETTLED OUT OF COURT, A SUIT THAT REQUIRES SHE REMAIN SILENT.

OF COURSE: OBAMA COULD RELEASE HER FROM THAT.

SHOULDN'T OBAMA AT LEAST RELEASE THE NOTES AND DRAFTS OF THE BOOK - FOR POSTERITY'S SAKE?


AND WHO SUED OBAMA WHEN HE VIOLATED THE TERMS OF THEIR CONTRACT
astuteblogger.blogspot.com...

A SUIT THAT WAS SETTLED OUT OF COURT, A SUIT THAT REQUIRES SHE REMAIN SILENT.

Why is everyone so afraid of this guy?


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posted on May, 20 2012 @ 03:12 PM
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Originally posted by AngryCymraeg

Originally posted by Stormdancer777
Obama would make a good president because “a lot of people working with him are, indeed, socialists with backgrounds in the Communist Party.”
Manning Marable


Sorry, but that website you quoted from is a dribblingly insane place that sees reds under beds all over the place.


So?

Point out the lies.

Ayers for example, isn't he a radical that made bombs?



posted on May, 20 2012 @ 03:15 PM
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So I guess we need to ask is the pamlet true in form from 1991, or was it created as a scam?


If it was a scam way did Miriam Goderich, partner at the literary management agency Obama currently uses claim that she made the error?

It was us that got scammed.
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posted on May, 20 2012 @ 03:18 PM
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Originally posted by jimmyx

the author says it is incorrect...of course, you won't believe that....that would make a rigid arguement into a flaccid one. and the one thing the GOP does not want to have against a black liberal president is a flaccid arguement.


Once again how does one make a mistake like that and it happens to be Kenya...of course it was incorrect, but where did she get the info in the first place?

Has anyone EVER heard of an American tending college and someone in an official status mistakenly publishes a bio that they are from some other country?



posted on May, 20 2012 @ 03:22 PM
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Well, my first US Passport listed me as "F" when I'm an "M" and my first and only blockbuster card made my last name first and first name last. Just the other day I quoted a local news source only to discover they apparently weren't.

Personally, I find our whole political system a bit convoluted and shady, and maybe there is something secret about Obama (and Bush and Clinton and Reagan and so forth). But, it could also be just another typo. I've read newspaper articles about my father that were written incorrectly. I, as the family member, know that what they said was misquoted, but the average reader will just think "huh" or "hmm" and keep reading. I could easily be empathetic and say, they heard his father was born in Kenya and accidentally put that he was instead. This sort of thing does happen. It's usually the whole purpose for the "errata" section in early books and the "retraction" in modern papers.

Wouldn't the easiest way to solve this question be to find out if and when his mother had even been to Kenya, seeing as how she met Obama's father in college in the US? And if she has been to Kenya, when?

EDIT: Wow, 80 pages??? Forget I even bothered, someone probably brought up everything I just said many many pages ago.
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