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posted on May, 20 2012 @ 03:19 AM
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Originally posted by Anon008

Yes I know hypothetical situations are sometimes hard to understand , and things like 'logic' and 'rationality' are just abstract concepts. Just keep trying and someday you will get there. I promise.
edit on 20-5-2012 by Anon008 because: (no reason given)



Promise me nothing, your reasoning is preposterous and embarrassing, and once again, the info about Obama's birthplace was either a "fact checking error" or given by Obama or someone close to him.

The fact that you cannot concede this shows you out for the close minded Obamatron troll

*see what I did, I used Obamatron troll like some use birther*




posted on May, 20 2012 @ 03:22 AM
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Originally posted by blueorder

Originally posted by Autumnal

Are birthers all crazy?


more pathetic demonising terms



I see no fawning of any kind in that post or any of the other non birther posts.


you choosing what you want to read?



Shining a light is great until you start finding things that are not there. Those are hallucinations and you can see them with the light off too.


This pamphlet is there- either it was a "fact checking error" or Obama or someone close to him gave him this info, and there is jack s chance this Obama supporter/contributor actually remembers this specific detail from 20 years ago




What is an insult about "birther?"


it is used as a term of abuse by people who also throw about erroneous claims of being "crazy"

*sees the irony*


Your totally right man. She has to be a genius with eidetic memory to be able to recall a fact from twenty years ago. how dare she blatantly lie like something about like that! There is no way she could have known that Obama wasn't born in Kenya, so she is just lie'ing! Herp Derp Herp

*reveals ignorance*
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posted on May, 20 2012 @ 03:25 AM
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Originally posted by blueorder

Originally posted by Anon008

Yes I know hypothetical situations are sometimes hard to understand , and things like 'logic' and 'rationality' are just abstract concepts. Just keep trying and someday you will get there. I promise.
edit on 20-5-2012 by Anon008 because: (no reason given)



Promise me nothing, your reasoning is preposterous and embarrassing, and once again, the info about Obama's birthplace was either a "fact checking error" or given by Obama or someone close to him.

The fact that you cannot concede this shows you out for the close minded Obamatron troll

*see what I did, I used Obamatron troll like some use birther*


Yeah, Obamatron sounds like a transsexual decepticon, but whatever. Definitely the same thing.

But hey, since you have narrowed it down to
1) Obama lied
2) People lied for Obama

Who am I to argue against your immense deductive reasoning skills?



posted on May, 20 2012 @ 04:37 AM
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Sure turned out to be one hellofa thread.

Some great responses and discussion about this never ending topic of POTUS-the Greatest liar of them All.

Just remember as EVERYONE seems to forget and the MSM is only ever so happy to not remind anyone.

The ENTIRE Obama not being someone legally eligible to be POTUS was.....

HILLARY CLINTON and her Supporters during the 2008 POTUS Run> Thank you Mrs. Clinton.

Birther row began with Hillary Clinton
www.telegraph.co.uk...
(just one quick source. There are many many more).



posted on May, 20 2012 @ 04:50 AM
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Originally posted by anon72
Sure turned out to be one hellofa thread.

Some great responses and discussion about this never ending topic of POTUS-the Greatest liar of them All.

Just remember as EVERYONE seems to forget and the MSM is only ever so happy to not remind anyone.

The ENTIRE Obama not being someone legally eligible to be POTUS was.....

HILLARY CLINTON and her Supporters during the 2008 POTUS Run> Thank you Mrs. Clinton.

Birther row began with Hillary Clinton
www.telegraph.co.uk...
(just one quick source. There are many many more).


What a shock, there are stupid people on both sides.



posted on May, 20 2012 @ 06:25 AM
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Honestly, I'm half expecting someone to say

"I just figured out why they only show Obama from the waist up. He's a centaur! And centaurs only come from Kenya!"
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posted on May, 20 2012 @ 08:02 AM
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Originally posted by xEphon

Originally posted by AnonymousCitizen

Originally posted by xEphon
So, we have a newspaper on the day of his birth saying he was born in Hawaii.
And a booklet many years later saying he was from Kenya.

What to believe...what to believe...
edit on 17-5-2012 by xEphon because: (no reason given)


Close, but not quite. There is a subtle, but important difference.
We have a newspaper several days after his birth saying he was born to parents that resided in Hawaii.
Fixed that for you.


So, you're implying that Obama was born in Kenya, his parents found residency in Hawaii, decided to fly their less than a week old son from Kenya to Hawaii, and then contacted the local paper to report on it?

Sorry if I fail to see the subtle difference.
edit on 17-5-2012 by xEphon because: (no reason given)


You have never seen a birth announcement where a couple native to a certain city, give birth overseas, yet it is announced in the local papers as if the birth happened in the states? It happens all the time. Just saying.



posted on May, 20 2012 @ 08:04 AM
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Originally posted by Jedimind
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The lack of journalists posing the question about how the mistake happened to occur in the first place is extremely strange to me. I don't understand why there is practically complete silence from the media as far as proper unbiased investigative journalism in this matter which certainly warrants such inquiry. Shouldn't this make for a good story? "For 16 years a bio of the current US prez said birthplace was not the US, but Kenya!"


Here's why the media is so quiet:


ARPAIO INVESTIGATOR: OBAMA THREATENS MEDIA WITH FEDERAL INVESTIGATION IF THEY PURSUE BIRTH CERTIFICATE

patdollard.com...


OBAMA ADMINISTRATION THREATENS TO ASSASSINATE AMERICAN JOURNALIST

disquietreservations.blogspot.com...


OBAMA THREATENS TV STATIONS AIRING AYERS AD

michellemalkin.com...


In all honesty, who HASN'T Obama tried to threaten?


MICHAEL SAVAGE: OBAMA THREATENS SUPREME COURT

www.westernjournalism.com...


You have Obama's administration suing the state of Arizona for trying to uphold federal law and you have him investigating Sheriff Joe, well, because he's pursuing the birth certificate! So, all of the journalists know that Obama will ruthlessly pursue them too.



posted on May, 20 2012 @ 08:04 AM
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Really, I don't know what I believe any more. I feel that every politician lies. I watched a documentary on PBS the other night about Clinton and how he cheated on Hilary. It amazes me how well a lot of his earlier campaign managers were able to conceal his deceit. They all lie, and so, is it really far fetched for Obama to be lying too? Is it far fetched that maybe Obama has his own affairs? I just don't know anymore.



posted on May, 20 2012 @ 08:09 AM
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Originally posted by Destinyone
I personally think, his Grand Mother blurting out he was born in Kenya, dovetails in nicely with this new bit of Obama history. This is one history he won't be so easily rewriting...

It's not like it is from a single piece of paper/flyer. It's part of a large listing of people on contract with the publicist at the time. I'm sure there are multiple copies, in many hands. BTW, the info a publicist uses, is provided by the person they represent. At that time, Obama wasn't anyone famous, why would anyone alter any information in his section of the booklet. Makes no sense.

Des




edit on 17-5-2012 by Destinyone because: (no reason given)


In hindsight, I believe his grandmother was being truthful as most women of her age are. They naturally blurt out what they know, unrehearsed. The handlers didn't get a chance to get a hold of her previous to that to tell her what she can or cannot say. Let's all think about how our grandparents in their old age pretty much say whatever they want to, and what is known to them. It makes sense now.



posted on May, 20 2012 @ 08:18 AM
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Mr. Obama arrived in New York in August 1981, at age 20, from Occidental College in Los Angeles. According to his memoir, he passed his first night in an alley near 109th Street and Amsterdam Avenue, unable to get into his apartment. The next morning, he bathed at a hydrant alongside a homeless man.


This is quite a rags to riches tale, but I think what really happened here is, Mr Obama reached New York, found a suitable hotel to stay in and charged it to his Visa card. His mother was not poor by any means. Don't get me started on the whole lie about how is mother was fighting with her insurance company as she lay dying from cancer. That part of her story was fabricated to gain more support and make Obama look like he cared about health care. I feel disgusted that he used his mothers death to produce political theater.



posted on May, 20 2012 @ 08:27 AM
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Originally posted by MsAphrodite
reply to post by Anon009
 


I am not telling you to read the thread so that you will understand my position. I am telling you to read the thread because you fail to comprehend most of this. You need to read in order to bring yourself up to speed. I am trying to save you from further embarrassing yourself here. Really just be quiet and try.


MsAphrodite, you need to recognize when you're being played and stop all communications with Anon009.

I'm sure Anon009 understands your position well, he just wants to wear you down. Don't let him.

You'd be doing yourself a favor by moving on and only address others' comments. From what I can tell from all of the warnings, Anon009 is well on his way to being banned anyway.

Edit: Well, I guess it didn't take long for Anon009 to become Anon008 after being banned!
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posted on May, 20 2012 @ 08:51 AM
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Originally posted by macman
reply to post by xEphon
 


You do realize that birth announcements are called into to paper.
Not exactly verified by reporters.
Like in the obituaries. People submit it to the newspaper.

Good lord, basic understanding of these processes would resolve 3 pages full of retorts constructed within your mind frame.


Yep. When my grandma died, we were shocked to see family and friends of hers coming from Nebraska to the wake. When we asked how they found out, we then learned my Auntie had called the paper there, and they printed her obit without any type of verification. She faxed it and there it was.

This happens every day so...... it is not far fetched to think that this is the same circumstance of Obama's birth announcement.

Regardless of plane logs, or released birth certificates that have been fiddled with...... we still have Obama's grandmother's statement. I believe the old woman.



posted on May, 20 2012 @ 09:01 AM
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reply to post by LightsideAssassin
 


I agree, he's hiding something. A man does not pay out thousands upon thousands to teams of lawyers if he's not hiding something.

Youtube does not pull down a crap load of videos with his grandmother talking about his Kenyan birth, if there's nothing to hide either. I remember when youtube rushed to pull the videos, but it was too late, because many people already had those copied/downloaded.



posted on May, 20 2012 @ 09:05 AM
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Originally posted by blueorder
more pathetic demonising terms

Pretty subjective don't you think? My grandma is crazy and I love her to death. Nothing demonic about her. What makes your creazy demonic?



you choosing what you want to read?


Well yes.

Who else is going to choose what I want? That is strictly my job.
I wanted to read every post in this thread and I did. I see none of that fawning you are talking about. Neither do you.



This pamphlet is there- either it was a "fact checking error" or Obama or someone close to him gave him this info, and there is jack s chance this Obama supporter/contributor actually remembers this specific detail from 20 years ago


I agree the pamphlet is there and it could be a fact checking error or.....something else. What I cannot do is call this woman I have never met nor know anything about a liar and feel good about myself. I am not sure how you do it. Liar is pretty demonizing.




it is used as a term of abuse by people who also throw about erroneous claims of being "crazy"


That makes no sense. How is it "used as a term of abuse?" Am I abusing firemen when I call them firemen?



*sees the irony*


Not sure you see anything at all from this.



posted on May, 20 2012 @ 09:09 AM
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It is pretty far fetched when you find out that is not how those birth announcements work. It has been explained in this thread and every other birther thread already that those announcements did not come from family submissions so yes, it is really really far fetched.



posted on May, 20 2012 @ 09:30 AM
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man who witnessed the death of Andrew Breitbart


Lasseter reported he noticed a big thick band of blanched white skin around the top of Breitbart’s forehead, extending around the hairline to the back of Breitbart’s head, that him do a “doubletake.”

In the various reports of Breitbart’s death, WND is the first to report an eyewitness observed the thick white band around Breitbart’s forehead.

“There was a thick white band around his forehead all the way around his hairline, bright red face, thick, thick white band – made me make a double take,” Lasseter said.

inquiries about the thick white band have been sent to noted board-certified forensic pathologists Michael Bade



posted on May, 20 2012 @ 09:39 AM
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Originally posted by Starchildren

Yep. When my grandma died, we were shocked to see family and friends of hers coming from Nebraska to the wake. When we asked how they found out, we then learned my Auntie had called the paper there, and they printed her obit without any type of verification. She faxed it and there it was.

This happens every day so...... it is not far fetched to think that this is the same circumstance of Obama's birth announcement.

Regardless of plane logs, or released birth certificates that have been fiddled with...... we still have Obama's grandmother's statement. I believe the old woman.


You mean the Grandmother who was interviewed via a translator and who corrected her own mistake seconds after making it? And by the way, Obama was born in that far-off era when there were no faxes.



posted on May, 20 2012 @ 09:40 AM
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Originally posted by Stormdancer777
reply to post by Deetermined
 


man who witnessed the death of Andrew Breitbart


Lasseter reported he noticed a big thick band of blanched white skin around the top of Breitbart’s forehead, extending around the hairline to the back of Breitbart’s head, that him do a “doubletake.”

In the various reports of Breitbart’s death, WND is the first to report an eyewitness observed the thick white band around Breitbart’s forehead.

“There was a thick white band around his forehead all the way around his hairline, bright red face, thick, thick white band – made me make a double take,” Lasseter said.

inquiries about the thick white band have been sent to noted board-certified forensic pathologists Michael Bade




Sorry, are you claiming that Breitbart was murdered or something? I thought that he was just a very unhealthy man who lived a very unhealthy lifestyle and who therefore unsurprisingly died of a heart attack.



posted on May, 20 2012 @ 09:41 AM
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Folks, as someone who took an oath ''...to defend the COTUS ...'' and mostly to you that would brush this off as no '' big deal ''. Our ''supreme law of the land'' was wrote that way for a reason. If this clown can get away with this.. Your freedoms, everything you currently enjoy or still have mean nothing! You want to defend this clown? by all means carry on. But every American will get exactly what they deserve. Remember this when your in your worst ever life and they have branded you like a cow and you have no choices lift on how you live your life for you and your families. If he gets away with this, even the bill of rights you LIBS love using will mean NOTHING! as for me I will die on my feet, in my boots upholding my oath. God bless America and the Republic!



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