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posted on May, 18 2012 @ 03:06 PM
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Originally posted by burntheships


So, why the silence from The POTUS?



Because crazy people that don't understand facts will not be swayed by facts? Because you don't pet a dog with rabies?

You know ...expecting the President to respond to birthers every-time they have a logic-seizure is part of the birther delusion.




posted on May, 18 2012 @ 03:07 PM
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Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
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I agree 100% !!!

It's an outrage.

btw, Rye, NY is about 30 miles from Manhattan


And there we have it...the excuse.

I knew you guys wouldn't dissapoint.

So you are saying that since the error of the birthplace is only 30 miles away...and substituting the largest city in our country for a very small town is ok...because it is just 30 miles away???

So what are we saying here...is Barbara Bush a liar...did she commit fraud trying to mislead people that she was born in New York City...or maybe....just maybe...was she not aware of people mis-quoting her birthplace???


If I agreed that Barbara Bush committed or at least helped facilitate the fraud, would you agree that Obama committed or ar least helped faciltate the fraud?



posted on May, 18 2012 @ 03:08 PM
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Originally posted by Nite_wing

Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
reply to post by xuenchen
 



I agree 100% !!!

It's an outrage.

btw, Rye, NY is about 30 miles from Manhattan


And there we have it...the excuse.

I knew you guys wouldn't dissapoint.

So you are saying that since the error of the birthplace is only 30 miles away...and substituting the largest city in our country for a very small town is ok...because it is just 30 miles away???

So what are we saying here...is Barbara Bush a liar...did she commit fraud trying to mislead people that she was born in New York City...or maybe....just maybe...was she not aware of people mis-quoting her birthplace???


If I agreed that Barbara Bush committed or at least helped facilitate the fraud, would you agree that Obama committed or ar least helped faciltate the fraud?



"....I could agree with you, but then we'd both be wrong..."



posted on May, 18 2012 @ 03:11 PM
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Don't change your mind or I will have to order some Depends for you.



posted on May, 18 2012 @ 03:12 PM
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Originally posted by six67seven

Originally posted by Furbs

Originally posted by six67seven
You don't just publish information on assumptions, I don't care if it's today or 1991.


People publish information on ATS based on assumptions..

EVERY
SINGLE
DAY.


Nice, way to pick out the most unimportant part of my post and comment on it.

Well done! A star for you!

ATSers regurgitate information - already available - like the idea that Miriam regurgitated - from Obama!


In a post full of unimportant information, I will take it as a compliment that the author of said post felt I was able to successfully navigate and disseminate the least important of all of it.

Not only do ATSers regurgitate information, they draw conclusions based on that speculation, much like you are doing right now with the idea that Miriam got any information about Obama from him. There is nothing to suggest he gave her the information, yet here you are, publishing that information on your own.



posted on May, 18 2012 @ 03:15 PM
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reply to post by OutKast Searcher
 



And there we have it...the excuse.

I knew you guys wouldn't dissapoint.

So you are saying that since the error of the birthplace is only 30 miles away...and substituting the largest city in our country for a very small town is ok...because it is just 30 miles away???

So what are we saying here...is Barbara Bush a liar...did she commit fraud trying to mislead people that she was born in New York City...or maybe....just maybe...was she not aware of people mis-quoting her birthplace???



Big difference.

Obama Did make money off the books. The "booklet" reference to a Kenya birth would be "fraud" if not true.
Unless of course, It IS TRUE !!

Barbara Bush I think never did make money from the Rye reference.

btw, wasn't her Great Great Great Grandfather a President or something ?


Panic !!




posted on May, 18 2012 @ 03:16 PM
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WoW 55 pages!......Way to go ATS...

So what did we decide with all this debate?

Is Obama a natural born American citizen who lied for profit?

Or a Kenyan who lied about his citizenship?


I suppose since we have established he is a liar, we could simply ask him, and then assume the opposite
of what he says is true.....is that a logical argument?



posted on May, 18 2012 @ 03:18 PM
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I don't need to try anything. Not every word in the Constitution is broken out into exotic definition. If it were, the Constitution would by longer than the Obamacare bill. It was understood that the documents used at the time of formation would be used by the courts to extrapolate the specific meanings and context of the words and phrases used. Vattel Law of Nations was used. FACT. Now stay with me, here. I'm talking facts.

The term PARENTS is plural meaning the mother AND father of the child MUST be citizens at the time of birth. Not mother OR father of the child. Obamas father was NOT a citizen at the time of Obamas birth. Case closed.


So you are saying that not only under the law of Constitution...but we are also under the law of the entire Vattel Law of Nations???



posted on May, 18 2012 @ 03:18 PM
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Originally posted by rival

I suppose since we have established he is a liar, we could simply ask him, and then assume the opposite
of what he says is true.....is that a logical argument?



I hope it is logical since that is what I do everytime I see him say something on television. I haven't been surprised yet.



posted on May, 18 2012 @ 03:19 PM
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Originally posted by Furbs

Not only do ATSers regurgitate information, they draw conclusions based on that speculation


Yes...birther threads are often like watching someone regurgitate their meal back onto the plate and announce that they are having seconds at an all you can eat buffet.



posted on May, 18 2012 @ 03:20 PM
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Originally posted by burntheships
reply to post by OutKast Searcher
 


It is not relevant. Barbara was not POTUS.
Grasping at straws much?

So, why the silence from The POTUS?

'Born in Kenya':



The White House did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

abcnews.go.com...



It's completely relevant....people in this thread has made it relevant by saying there is no possible way Obama didn't know about it and no one would ever have their birthplace be published in error.

This proves that wrong.

I know it destroys your argument...which is why you are trying to deflect it away...but you should really be honest with yourself.



posted on May, 18 2012 @ 03:22 PM
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Originally posted by Indigo5

Originally posted by Furbs

Not only do ATSers regurgitate information, they draw conclusions based on that speculation


Yes...birther threads are often like watching someone regurgitate their meal back onto the plate and announce that they are having seconds at an all you can eat buffet.


Yeah, we don't all have the same play book as the Forgers do.

Is it blue or red, white and blue with a big circle on the front?



posted on May, 18 2012 @ 03:22 PM
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Both were born outside the country — Obama in Indonesia,


I missed that one.



posted on May, 18 2012 @ 03:23 PM
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If I agreed that Barbara Bush committed or at least helped facilitate the fraud, would you agree that Obama committed or ar least helped faciltate the fraud?




No...you've completely missed the point.

You see...I don't care why Barbara Bush's birth place was reported in error...because I know that MISTAKES happen. For me to try to claim that she did it on purpose would be ridiculous.

The only point you should take from this is that mistakes happen...deal with it.



posted on May, 18 2012 @ 03:23 PM
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I don't think you exactly understand how this makes the Right, the Tea Party, and Republicans look...the Republican establishment won't even talk about this...that is how embaressing it is to them.



You know, I admire the people who don't act like sheeple and stand up for what the believe. If anyone is embarrassed by this issue that is their problem. Nobody is forcing anyone to post on ATS.

I'd rather stand alone against injustice than join the cesspool of politicians who are embarrassed or afraid to commit career suicide for supporting an unpopular idea

America is falling because people are afraid to look stupid. You want to stay in your corral go ahead. I pray that wisdom and truth prevails and I don't mind being proven wrong either. If you expect me to be fat, dumb and happy rolling with the flow, it is not going to happen.



posted on May, 18 2012 @ 03:25 PM
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Originally posted by xuenchen
reply to post by burntheships
 




The other will be Gargantuan and will not be refutable.





Really?
Can you give us a hint?



posted on May, 18 2012 @ 03:25 PM
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I am still curious why no one is answering the obvious question...

If these renowned publications OF THE EXACT SAME TIME PERIOD could get Barbara Bush's place of birth wrong, could an assistant literary agent make a mistake about a no-name author at the time on a single flyer?


Originally posted by Indigo5



* Barbara Bush was NOT born in "Rye, New York" as most sources report.

Incredibly, most trustworthy publications get Barbara Bush's place of birth wrong.

All of the following publications, in some past editions, erroneously claim Mrs. Bush was born in "Rye, New York." (She was raised in Rye, New York, but was born in New York City.)

Chase's Calendar of Events

Daily Celebrity Almanac by Bob Barry

Encyclopedia Britannica

People Entertainment Almanac

Who's Who in America

World Almanac and Book of Facts

The World Almanac of First Ladies

and many, many more!

www.accuracyproject.org...

edit on 18-5-2012 by Indigo5 because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 18 2012 @ 03:26 PM
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Originally posted by sad_eyed_lady
America is falling because people are afraid to look stupid. You want to stay in your corral go ahead. I pray that wisdom and truth prevails and I don't mind being proven wrong either. If you expect me to be fat, dumb and happy rolling with the flow, it is not going to happen.


You have made it perfectly clear that you are not afraid to look stupid. Keep up the good work.



posted on May, 18 2012 @ 03:28 PM
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reply to post by xuenchen
 



Big difference.

Obama Did make money off the books. The "booklet" reference to a Kenya birth would be "fraud" if not true.
Unless of course, It IS TRUE !!

Barbara Bush I think never did make money from the Rye reference.

btw, wasn't her Great Great Great Grandfather a President or something ?


And...just in case you missed it earlier...Obama didn't write the bio. And do you honestly think him being born in Kenya was a big selling point for the book


Hell...next time someone wants to promote a book...they should try that...apparently claiming you were born in Kenya boosts your book sales


You have an odd view of what fraud is.

The example of Barbara Bush shows that mistakes happen...even with peoples birth places...even confusing the largest city in the country with a very very small town.

If you think people are so concerned about the accuracy of their birth place...then why didn't Barbara Bush make it a point to correct all those and release a public statement that they were all wrong???

Maybe because it's something that isn't really that important.




Panic !!


If I was in a "panic" over this...do you really think I would keep bumping this to the top of the page???


I love this story.



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