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Originally posted by garberinc
Super Mod "Don't Tread on Me" advised to post this here and it will be moved to appropriate forum.
I'm a long time reader, first time poster!
I live in NW Ohio near Toledo in a rural area. Two Sundays ago, a good friend of mine went to a local and very rural gun range to practice his skills. He has his CCW permit and goes there frequently. On this day he was getting ready to shoot, when four "Arabic looking" men came in. They spoke broken English and requested access to the range. As per the rules of the range, they had to provide ID. They each produced Student Visas from Saudi Arabia and said they were attending a university in the area. My friend said each wallet was brand new, had crisp cash in it and the student visa only.
The men requested to shoot an American made Uzi specifically. They said they were new to shooting, and that they never fired and Uzi and wanted to try.
While on the range, my friend watched them. He said one of the men was clearly trained or had experience in using an Uzi or other similar firearm. He said he was center mass on every shot. he said they spoke a lot among themselves in a foreign language and the "leader" was showing the others how to shoot the weapon.
When my friend left, he said the same vehicles were parked outside as when he came in, but the four men were still inside the range shooting. He figures they were dropped off.
There were many red flags, as you can read above. After hearing this info, I couldn't not say anything. I asked my friend to call the FBI tip line, but he said he didn't want to get anyone in trouble, didn't want the gun range owner to be mad at him, or whatever.
I couldn't take it. We have a nuclear power plant in our county, only a few miles from this gun range! So, I called the local FBI office. The agent took all the info and seemed very interested. He said they would send a team to investigate the gun range. I asked him if he has heard of this type of activity in the area. The agent said, "all I can say is that we have made terror related arrests in the Toledo area. This is what they are doing.... they are in training". My jaw dropped. This could be the real deal!
I told my friend this info and now he is on board with reporting it to the FBI. He called the agent and got involved. A few days ago, another FBI agent called my friend and asked a few more questions. He then told my friend that they called the university the four men claimed to have student visas to attend. The university denied have anyone enrolled on a student visa from Saudi Arabia. So, the plot thickens.
I guess the point of this post is to let any ATS readers know in NW Ohio that there definitely is some suspicious activity in our area. Please be vigilant. Please report anything you see that is unusual. The FBI is very interested in any and all tips, no matter how seemingly minute. Who knows if this will amount to anything, but I can sleep better knowing I did my part by reporting it to the authorities.
Thank you for reading. And, it's my first time, so go easy on me!
Originally posted by FenderWolf
Real terrorist ask for AK's.
Anti-terror committee says agents have arrested three suspects and found surface-to-air missiles, TNT and grenade launchers.
Russia says it has foiled a plot by Islamist rebels to attack the southern city of Sochi when it hosts the Winter Olympics in 2014.
The country's anti-terror committee said agents from the Federal Security Service (FSB) had arrested three suspected rebels and seized a large cache of weapons during a raid last week in Abkhazia, the Georgian breakaway region that borders Sochi.
"Russia's FSB could establish that militants were planning to move these weapons to Sochi during 2012-2014 to use for terror acts while planning and hosting the Olympic Games," the committee said in a statement.
Originally posted by jhn7537
I sometimes wonder if profiling is a good or bad thing ,on one end we are doing our due-diligence to make sure another "terrorist" attack doesnt happen, but on the other end we are usually wrong 99.9999999% of the time when we do profile and we likely are hurting the good people we are profiling...
I guess what it comes down to is SHOULD we profile people or not?
Unfortunately, I'm truly on the fence with this one... I dont want thousands of americans to die from an attack, but I also dont want to ruin a perfectly good citizens life while they stay here in USA... Tough one for sure...edit on 18-5-2012 by jhn7537 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by pavil
If the story of the OP is accurate, he did the right thing reporting the activity his friend witnessed. There were enough pieces of the puzzle to warrant the FBI being called to find out more. It's better to be safe and sorry then to not have tried to follow up a suspicious event. Like it or not, profiling does happen. Groups of Arabic/Muslim looking men will ALWAYS get looked with a suspicious eye, especially when they do certain things. Add the other parts of the story and you end up with something that bears further investigation.
Originally posted by Sahabi
We should really be on the lookout for domestic terrorists who are persuaded, funded, or trained by the FBI, CIA, or other governmental affiliates.
Any American nationals who may engage in terrorism... to further along the agenda of gun control, domestic espionage, dissolution of freedom/liberty/privacy, to discredit popular movements and protests, and to help usher in martial law.
Islamic terrorism no longer serves a function. It is the average American who is next to be demonized and oppressed.