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Can someone plz debunk this.. MUST WATCH~! Ghost? Angel?

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posted on May, 17 2012 @ 11:00 AM
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I did a search for the exact title of the video and couldn't find it.. if so, my bad.

Just saw this on YT from ECN channel.. I have NO idea what this could be .. cept for an angel or angelic being..





posted on May, 17 2012 @ 11:05 AM
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That's pretty weird! What was more weird is that Alan Carr said his name was Chris??



posted on May, 17 2012 @ 11:06 AM
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For those that dont understand Spanish, the captions are sayin that it took place in Indonesia. This thing appeared out of nowhere and it also disappeared as fast as it came.

It looks pretty convincing to me, however, there seems to be so much lighting around and perhaps its just a blown fuse of some sort from a lamp.



posted on May, 17 2012 @ 11:07 AM
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this has already been posted here not too long ago.
but it still is an amazing video! i don't think this was faked,even judging from the reaction of the security guards.
i'm not gonna yell at you to use the search option,i hate when people do that!

there is a better vid. on ATS of this though,ya just gotta find it. maybe another member can direct you to it.



posted on May, 17 2012 @ 11:14 AM
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One possibility, it could be a lighting fixture lowered down from the ceiling in order to switch out a burned out bulb.

Other than that, who knows? Great find.

edit: from the original youtube link, this was part of the description (translated to English)

An angel or a Being of Light was captured on closed circuit television (CCTV) video Cilandak Town Square, South Jakarta, Indonesia. The bright light appeared in the video of CCTV grainy black and white certainly has all the characteristics of being an alien present. You do not need any imagination to see that the alien creature sports large white wings visible on the sides of your body. Seems to fall from heaven to nothing and disappears as quickly as it came. According to the timestamp in the video, this stranger was registered on September 11, 2011. A woman named Pramana Abbas commented on the event saying: .. "My cousin was in Cilandak that night and saw people were talking about it all night its true saw that bright light descending from heaven, struck the ground, then left." And you think your right? angel? alien? Created by dodero2008

edit on 5/17/12 by AnonymousCitizen because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 17 2012 @ 11:34 AM
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Originally posted by reficul
this has already been posted here not too long ago.
but it still is an amazing video! i don't think this was faked,even judging from the reaction of the security guards.
i'm not gonna yell at you to use the search option,i hate when people do that!

there is a better vid. on ATS of this though,ya just gotta find it. maybe another member can direct you to it.


can someone please find this vid. i cant watch yt vids at work. I would look myself but i dont know what to look for..



posted on May, 17 2012 @ 11:47 AM
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Existing thread here -
www.abovetopsecret.com...

I think the mystery still remains unsolved.



posted on May, 17 2012 @ 11:48 AM
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Probably a jin and they do have wings, they do fly fast and its plenty in Indonesia.
Angel ? I doubt.
Alien ? I doubt
Jin ? Most probably.
CGI ? Most probably.

edit on 17-5-2012 by NullVoid because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 17 2012 @ 11:50 AM
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As someone posted, Thor..
but it looks like he forgot his hammer and so flew back up,



posted on May, 17 2012 @ 11:53 AM
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reply to post by beatbox
 

hope this helps
www.wnd.com...



posted on May, 17 2012 @ 11:57 AM
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This is really amazing!.. i have not seen any video like this.. i do not want to say it couldnt be fake, but i am not a video editor of any sorts but this was pretty convincing to me.. i have been doing a good amount of research on extraterrestrials, aliens, angels, and just outta this world type of studies and it has totally changed my belief on so many things.
To me, this angel coming down is wonderful, i wish more things like this happened for the publics eye so that people started to believe more, thats what really needs to happen, no more of this skeptical thinking, not saying its bad, all your doing is hurting yourself for not believing it.
There have been many sites that have been fascinating about all these types of subjects. Here is one that i have come across lately that really opened my eyes to many things.

thegreatwhitelodge.org...

And like i said, try not to be so skeptical about everything, just because things dont seem right or seem outta this world, does not mean it is not true. Because there is so much more to realize about this universe that just cant be put into words. But this site gives descriptions about many different things that probably most people have never even heard of but it really makes sense in a way.
I would prefer you to read all of whats on that website but its not a big deal if you do not either.



posted on May, 17 2012 @ 12:44 PM
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Originally posted by reficul
reply to post by beatbox
 

hope this helps
www.wnd.com...


thanks for that link. someone points out that the "thing" is yellow but the video is filmed in black and white. it's fake. the "thing" was added in and they made the mistake of not changing it to B&W before adding it.



posted on May, 17 2012 @ 12:56 PM
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Ok, here I'm playing debunker


Angel Light come down and flew back....what is wrong...

Human Factor
1.Angel Light come down and flew back....4 people saw and suddenly running to the spot, shine on the floor, "its somewhere here, its angel", "yeah" .... ..... .... "ok lets go have a drink, I'm buying", everyone walk to cafe. Wrong!
2.Angel Light come down and flew back....security guard shine on the floor, looking for amulet, then walk away with the other bystanders - Wrong!
3.Angel Light come down and flew back....everyone running to the spot at the same time - Wrong!
4.Angel Light come down and flew back....everyone looking for something on the floor - Wrong!

Technical factor
1.Angel Light come down and flew back....lights from him doesnt shine on the left palm tree - Why ?
2.Angel Light come down and flew back....lights from him doesnt shine on the dark triangle - Why ?
3.Angel Light come down and flew back....lights from him doesnt cast shadow, there should be shadow of the nearest tree, where is it ? - Weird
4.5.Angel Light come down and flew back....the left palm tree base is lighten up (only that ?) and it doesnt match "before" and "after" lighting, you either will get the dimension wrong or lights misplaced. - Why ?
5.Angel Light come down and flew back....the glass pane doesnt reflect the light ? It just overcome by lights but doesnt reflect ? - Why
6.Angel Light come down and flew back....the ATM machine inside seems never to notice it, no shadow, no reflection, nothing, the strong light merely penetrate the scene just few feet ? Wow.

What should happen
Angel Light come down and flew back....the entire area will cast quick moving shadows, reflections everywhere because of the glass pane. 4 people from different directions will come near the spot but afraid being to near it, security guard will shine to where the angel went, then shine to the spot, 2 others talking and waving hands up and down-discussing. Security guard and probably 1 other will approach the spot, shine on the floor/area, then up again. Then security guard will chat a bit while shining to where the angel went and back to the area. The 2 witness then now will brave them self to approach the area and start chatting. The chat will last for more than a minute, hands and direction of the event is primary focus. After 3 or more minutes, everyone will go their separate ways with security guard optionally stay or shine everywhere dark.

That is normal human response to such incident.
You dont run to the spot, might be dangerous!
You will stay until "everything is OK", then you approach the spot.
You will stall around discussing things, not a mere 5 second stay, its a huge event after all!.
You dont go to same direction after discussion, you back on your doing/journey.
You dont look for something might drop there, you look to where "that thing" went!

Conclusion
Staged, acted, then later CGI addition, Things go toooooo smooth, bad.
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Add
No such story in Indonesia, even an Indonesian here on ATS never heard about it. Big giveway!
edit on 17-5-2012 by NullVoid because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 17 2012 @ 04:36 PM
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Originally posted by blackmetalmist
For those that dont understand Spanish, the captions are sayin that it took place in Indonesia. This thing appeared out of nowhere and it also disappeared as fast as it came.

It looks pretty convincing to me, however, there seems to be so much lighting around and perhaps its just a blown fuse of some sort from a lamp.


thanks for this ~!

It could be a lamp .. but from the vid it looks like security responds to the phenomea .. I dunno



posted on May, 17 2012 @ 04:37 PM
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Originally posted by JibbyJedi
Existing thread here -
www.abovetopsecret.com...

I think the mystery still remains unsolved.



thanks Jibby,
I did use the search feature but, used the exact title .. and which came up with 200hits..



posted on May, 17 2012 @ 04:41 PM
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Originally posted by pasiphae

Originally posted by reficul
reply to post by beatbox
 

hope this helps
www.wnd.com...


thanks for that link. someone points out that the "thing" is yellow but the video is filmed in black and white. it's fake. the "thing" was added in and they made the mistake of not changing it to B&W before adding it.


I don't have time atm to seach for this comment.

Anyone on here a video/photography/PS expert and dig a little deeper into this ?



posted on May, 17 2012 @ 04:53 PM
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Watch it frame by frame, it screams man made graphics.



posted on May, 18 2012 @ 02:45 AM
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Originally posted by michael1983l
Watch it frame by frame, it screams man made graphics.


I'm not an expert ...

and if you are plz point them out in detail ..



posted on May, 18 2012 @ 11:35 AM
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Not very convincing. It just sort of...looks competely fake. I do enjoy the guy in the video saying, "Its NOT fake, I can prove it." Okay, sir, then prove it. I'll just sit back and wait to be convinced. And yes, why DO the security people run up and look at the ground? Wouldn't you be looking up to see where that thing went?



posted on May, 18 2012 @ 11:39 AM
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Oh and make sure you subscribe to his channel... ?!?

I smell BS.



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