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Report of several chem trail planes over Helena, Montana

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posted on May, 17 2012 @ 07:53 AM
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A personal and good friend who has been aware of the conspiracies called me yesterday very concerned that he witnesses not one but several aircraft at different times spraying chem trails over and around the Helena and surrounding area.

He and I have discussed a lot of things over the years and have witnessed UFOs and other phenomena in the Montana skies. Last year we witnessed on two different nights the erratic flying patterns of UFOs in the region.

For him to call me with a report that they were spraying chem trails over the area is not like him. He questions everything I bring up to him, but this time he was adamant on what he saw.

Is there anyone else in the Helena area who witnessed this event?

He is going to send me the pictures he took from his phone.

Where are these planes being fueled and loaded?




posted on May, 17 2012 @ 08:40 AM
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And this is different than any other location? Yes the central northern states get hit time from time. I am in North Dakota.



posted on May, 17 2012 @ 08:43 AM
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Before I make the following statement....which is half in jest and half serious....I want to say that I usually look for the more logical or practical explination to things before I look for the conspiracy.

I also want to say that I don't beleive in the whole "chemtrails" bit. I guess anything is possible. But I have some aviation background, and aircraft, at altitude, under the right conditions, make contrails, and that's pretty much the extent of it.

That being said;

Maybe they are trying to do something to dampen the radiation coming from Japan??

I don't know how that would be, knowing how radiation behaves, but I am not a chemist or physist, so who knows....assuming of course there really are "chemtrails"....which there arent'
It's just the first thing that popped in my head when I saw the thread.



posted on May, 17 2012 @ 09:09 AM
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I live about 55 miles west of Helena and yes my husband and I saw some chemtrails above us. Later in the evening I had a runny nose and we both kept sneezing. It is not uncommon around here for them to start spraying heavily May - August. I have seen some really bad ones last summer following the Japan quake.



posted on May, 17 2012 @ 09:12 AM
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Originally posted by prophetboy12


Where are these planes being fueled and loaded?


They could be fueling up at Helena's airport, or Missoula. There are many around the Montana area.



posted on May, 17 2012 @ 09:31 AM
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reply to post by Thunder heart woman
 


It doesn't make sense that they would be fueling and loading in the area they are chem trailing. They must be coming quite a distance or are refueling where they refuel fire fighting aircraft. Any body seen anything strange ate USFS sites?

There must be an elite team of pilots who have sold their souls to this operation. This has got to be a cover-up at the highest levels. UN probably or the TPTB.



posted on May, 17 2012 @ 09:38 AM
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I just had thought. I have hashimotos disease. A type of hypo-thyroidism caused by the exposure to radiation fallout. We received the radiation in the form of Iodine-131 in the 50s and 60's. It came from Yucca Flats. The place that had the highest levels and now has one of the highest thyroid cancer rates, is where they used to use smudging to protect fruit trees from freezing. Is this what they are doing. Forcing the radiation down to the ground?



posted on May, 17 2012 @ 10:33 AM
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reply to post by prophetboy12
 


no
according to some at educateyourself.org
it's radioactive iodine and other stuff that's being sprayed

so as to blame it on fuku

which is a psy-ops by the way



posted on May, 17 2012 @ 10:36 AM
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reply to post by DerepentLEstranger
 


Why would they need to spray radioactive material in the air if it already exists. To speed up the process?



posted on May, 17 2012 @ 10:38 AM
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reply to post by prophetboy12
 

reply to post by Thunder heart woman
 


you should get geiger counters
[see my prev. post]
it would be interesting if you could show that rad levels always rise after a spraying



posted on May, 17 2012 @ 10:40 AM
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But that happened a year ago.

What about the other 19 odd years they have supposedly been spraying?

Suggests to me that educateyourself haven't a clue about what they're talking about.

edit on 17/5/12 by Chadwickus because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 17 2012 @ 10:42 AM
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because there is no radiation coming from japan

it's a psy-ops for promoting natural gas and frakking
see my post here:
www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on May, 17 2012 @ 10:50 AM
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reply to post by Chadwickus
 

g'day chad
or it suggests re-purposing
regular chemtrailing was on a hiatus/downslide due to efforts of the etheric resistance's
use of chembusters and other orgone tech worldwide

let's not forget that i originally considered CTing to be garbage disposal
and that i do not presume to know what or why's of spraying

other that i and neighbors got sick with a persistent cough
which the local gov blamed on a fungus cloud

so hows the fallout in your corner of the world, btw?



posted on May, 17 2012 @ 11:02 AM
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Ugh...I didn't realise you believed in that orgone stuff...

Anyway, so they can spray whatever they like and it doesn't change in appearance or how it spreads out or anything like that?

That's some might clever work there...

What they should have done was make it invisible!

And fall out? Nothing here, no trails either.

But I'm not under any flight paths, so why should I see any?



posted on May, 17 2012 @ 11:27 AM
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Originally posted by Chadwickus
reply to post by DerepentLEstranger
 


Ugh...I didn't realise you believed in that orgone stuff...


my dear chad, i have made no secret here about being an occultist,
though i've only posted 1 thread on that subject:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

while science was my 1st love,
ive long upgraded from positivism 1.0



Anyway, so they can spray whatever they like and it doesn't change in appearance or how it spreads out or anything like that?

That's some might clever work there...

What they should have done was make it invisible!


perhaps they all use the same base medium and just mix whatever they are spraying?



And fall out? Nothing here, no trails either.

But I'm not under any flight paths, so why should I see any?


lol
the non existent fallout from fukushima only seems to drift to the us
and not the rest of the world eh?

ummm didn't you once post a vid of a persistent contrail in your area?



posted on May, 17 2012 @ 11:30 AM
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That was from where I worked at the time.

About 3000km North of where I live.




posted on May, 17 2012 @ 11:48 AM
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en.wikipedia.org...

western OZ covers a LOT of area [varied climates as well]

if i remember correctly you live near[or in] the desert
rising hot air would make spraying the area difficult...

lol
i'm afraid record temps of 122F rules it out for me as a get-away though
as i'm a cold climate person myself
sw sounds nice though...

where'd everybody else go?


see ya later mate,


got a client at the door



posted on May, 17 2012 @ 02:15 PM
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Originally posted by DerepentLEstranger
if i remember correctly you live near[or in] the desert
rising hot air would make spraying the area difficult...

Rising hot air contributes to the temperature and humidity at altitude not being ideal for contrail formation. You were halfway there.



posted on May, 17 2012 @ 06:39 PM
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Originally posted by prophetboy12
A personal and good friend who has been aware of the conspiracies called me yesterday very concerned that he witnesses not one but several aircraft at different times spraying chem trails over and around the Helena and surrounding area.


do you have an approximate time or range of times for this?

You can look up the history of overflights on www.flightradar24.com... .....






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