Is it time for a revolution in America?

reply to post by DarkKnight76


I just think your interpretation of the right v left is wrong. I mean we could go way off topic ...but do i really need to point out the huge media bias for obama... hell its littered on this site as well. I think you get the jist.

I'm from the USA. Most I see are not concerned. I'm beyond fed up but strength is in numbers. I talk to everyone I can and let them make their own opinion. But usually their conclusion is heavily effected by their laziness or being "too busy".

No one seems to care about anyone else anymore.

Hey Triple V. I'll add my own insight, if I may.


It's too late for an upheaval. Americans are extremely polarized as a nation, and I honestly don't think violent insurrection would solve anything. I used to think it would. At this point, people are too comfortable with all of their creature comforts that they wouldn't sacrifice them for anything. The elite have put their tendrils into so many facets of our daily lives that we don't even know who the real enemy is anymore. Is it the LEO's, the Fed Reserve, the Congress, the POTUS, or are we our own best enemy?

I think of all of the sacrifices that my grandfathers made when fighting against a real enemy and a real threat (WWII and Korean conflict respectively), and I realize that this nation is not the same one that they were fighting for. Back then, there was true evil in this world. Back then the government was accountable to the people, not the other way around. Somewhere along the time line, the people lost their power. We The People no longer applies. Sure, we can try to vote for people that will get us back on our collective feet (Ron Paul comes to mind), but we all know that the election process is rigged. We all know that the majority of this nation is being dumbed down through sub-standard education (I know this for a fact...I'm a teacher trying to fight the system I work for), media bias and brainwashing, and left vs. right politics. Hell, we still have people in this country that think the Earth is only 6,000 years old. I wish I could put all of them in a rocket ship and blast it straight into the sun. That includes some posters right here on our fair website.

There are small glimpses of light at the end of the tunnel, but those glimpses are being covered up by a blackness that can only be described as a sticky tar. Those of us that see this are shot down, marginalized, and ostracized for our views. We either have to conform or suffer. I refuse to conform to the status quo, because it's not working. I refuse to support a government that willingly invades other countries for "perceived threats." Surely, I can't be the only one that feels that way, but those of us that do are in the minority. And when I mean the minority, I mean less than 2% of the population. It's a humbling feeling.

The fact that so many of our brothers and sisters in other countries are seeing all of this, and the majority of my own fellow citizens don't is very upsetting and demoralizing. Unfortunately, we are stuck. TPTB WANTS a violent revolution. They have restricted our rights to a peaceful one, so that leaves us with only two options, and neither of them are appeasing to me.


The day the tanks start rolling down the street is the day that people might finally see what the rest of the world sees. I'll be screaming from the rooftops "I TOLD YOU SO!" before the "Suits" come to take me away forever. Even then, they'll accept it with open arms, just like most Americans accepted the Patriot Act, the TSA, and now drones flying through our airspace. There are Americans on this very website that support all of that, and that is why we have already lost. I might jump ship in the next few years before things get really messy.

Any of my ATS friends in other countries have a couch and a blanket for me and my pooch?


So why haven't we had a violent revolution? No common enemy, too much divide, and not enough incentive to change things. I don't think that day will ever come.


The USA won't go down with a bang, but with a whimper under the boot heel of oppression.



-TS

reply to post by DarkKnight76


Yeah but technically there are more than 2 parties already but they do not have the funding or support, there are 5 major parties -

Democratic Party
Green Party of the United States
Republican Party
Libertarian Party
Constitution Party

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In Australia we have the same type of system as the UK and it works but it is the same here in that the two main parties (Labor and Liberal) that have all the funding and power. Then we have the greens which is a large party but lacks backing and funding and a few other parties that hardly anyone has heard of for the same reasons.

Although with that parliamentary system, I don't agree that we voted in Kevin Rudd as the PM and then the party lost faith and then voted him out themselves without any input from the public and replaced him with Julia Gillard... I never voted for her but the party replaced him with her... I hated that! and Rudd wasn't that bad and ironically it is her decisions that have sent the party downhill... Rudd was opposed to those bills and thats why they voted him out..

He knew what he was doing but she had her own agenda and now they are paying for it and will lose the next election. The problem I have lost faith in both parties but my vote won't count because the public are that stupid that they will believe the pre-election BS and then start complaining 6 months after the elcetion again and we are back to square one...

I have given up on voting... it's pointless.

There idea's are good but the funding and support is lacking.

Funding, power and contributions are a massive part of elections - advertising and influence... just look at Fox news as one example

That's why other parties get muscled out!

reply to post by truthseeker1984


I have felt that way for a very long time my friend. I have a 3 year old son and I am a single father. I have been working 2 jobs for many years, I do this because I am trying to save enough money to be able to get out of the country soon. This is no place to be raising a child. My only thoughts are protecting him and trying to be happy. For when the sh!t hits the fan..and the cabal comes for us.. may god have mercy on their souls .. because I wont.

reply to post by truthseeker1984


Very very true mate, and very good post.

I think you might be right. Maybe it is too late. It is just so frustrating to hear all your fellow Americans complaining about how bad it is, or how much their government is making life difficult for them. I think most people, outside of America, do see what is going on, and for some of them the injustice is rather clear. Others I fear will revel in the fact, that the mighty America might indeed fall one day.

If you ever need a couch, I got an open one for you!! Just be prepared for the heat down here! lol

vvv

reply to post by LeoStarchild


Yeah, as a practicing American journalist, I just don't see the bias that everyone likes to complain about. In my nearly 15 years of working in newsrooms, there has never been a situation where the editor came out and told a reporter you will slant your story one way or the other. And if you are talking about editorials/opinions/TV news, then that isn't really news. And if you follow it as news, then it's no wonder why you would think that.

In fact, for as long as I have been a journalist, I have seen far more bias for the right than left. I have seen far more stories quashed by the upper management because they portrayed a member of the republican party in a bad light than the other way around. While reporters, some editors and opinion page types may slant left, upper management, in all but one case I have seen, slant right. Facts are facts, and it is a lot harder for a legitimate journalist to print something than it is for someone like Alex Jones or WND.com, who know the tricks they can get away with and twist things until they are almost unrecognizable as facts. Me, I have to have multiple sources if I am going to make an accusation in print, however any old yahoo, no pun intended, can make an accusation on the Internet and claim it as fact with little to no evidence to back it up. As evidence I point to 90% of the posts on this site.

American i am, proud I am not........

yet im am neither left nor right, and in all honesty i cant wait for the show to begin. I have no vested interest in this goverment or any other for that matter.

One thing is certain, the one thats here now is not for the people in any respect. It needs to step aside for something more balanced, something more better.

Would i fight a revolution? No...not unless i had a good reason to buck the system. I would enjoy spectating though. I do love watching anarchy unfold as a nation of fat lazy materialistic drones that wear saggy pants come to the realization that ole uncle scam wont hand out freebies anymore due to budget constaraints.

Might even be the best sitcom around....would definatly make a good reality show.

Originally posted by LeoStarchild
reply to post by truthseeker1984

 

I have felt that way for a very long time my friend. I have a 3 year old son and I am a single father. I have been working 2 jobs for many years, I do this because I am trying to save enough money to be able to get out of the country soon. This is no place to be raising a child. My only thoughts are protecting him and trying to be happy. For when the sh!t hits the fan..and the cabal comes for us.. may god have mercy on their souls .. because I wont.

Leo, I'll keep you and your son in my thoughts. I used to want children, but now I realize that I have a job to do before I'd feel comfortable in bringing a new life into this world. I want to make not only this country, but this world better for our children first and foremost. I want my kids to know the freedom that their great grandfathers had and fought for. I want them to drink clean water and breathe clean air. I want them to know how important our freedoms are and what inalienable rights are. In this current world atmosphere, there is no way I could do that. I do my small part in the classroom, making kids ask questions about everything, covertly guiding them to think for themselves, and teaching them what they really need to know instead of what the Fed tells them that they need to know.

The day they come for me is the day that they better bring a tank, because I refuse to fall to my knees for a government I no longer believe in.


Good luck to you, my friend. I hope that we can make the world better for your son and all the other sons and daughters out there before it's too late.



-TS

Originally posted by VreemdeVlieendeVoorwep
reply to post by truthseeker1984

 

Very very true mate, and very good post.

I think you might be right. Maybe it is too late. It is just so frustrating to hear all your fellow Americans complaining about how bad it is, or how much their government is making life difficult for them. I think most people, outside of America, do see what is going on, and for some of them the injustice is rather clear. Others I fear will revel in the fact, that the mighty America might indeed fall one day.

If you ever need a couch, I got an open one for you!! Just be prepared for the heat down here! lol

vvv

It certainly is a humbling feeling, indeed. The once great nation, the bastion of the free world, is on its way out. Short of divine intervention I honestly don't think anything could be done at this point. I won't go down without a fight though. I'm sure many others feel the way I do, and when the time comes to put my money where my mouth is, I hope my aim is true.


And I'll keep your couch in mind....I've always wanted to visit SA, even if just to see the Great White sharks....I love sharks. Hehe.



-TS

reply to post by VreemdeVlieendeVoorwep


"Is it time for a revolution in America?".....I think slowly but surely....we are already headed towards a revolution in America. With Occupy and other recent various protests in America....I think that by next fall...many of us may have to stay in our homes for a few days without leaving.

I say prepare ahead of time and have extra supplies in your home...we may have to be under martial law for a short time.

No, it's not now time. It's BEEN time for at least a decade. Look around. Look at all the crap Bush got away with and Obama is implementing more steps toward his Dictatorship every day. It's started to snowball. The illegal laws and executive orders are coming fast and furious. Ironic THAT should describe it, huh? We are in danger and the average American citizen is blind to what's coming. By the time the masses wake up and try to revolt, it'll be too late. There will be foreign troops in the streets. Peacekeeper Blue will be the color of the day. America is asleep and the nightmare is just beginning.

It's time for revolution and change.

And the only way we'll get there is by electing Ron Paul as president.
Why can't people see this? If he doesn't get elected, all the fools who voted otherwise will feel stupid and corrupt.

Ron Paul 2012!!!!

Absolutely it's time, has been since 2001, but I'm betting America lacks the BALLS to ever get it done.

reply to post by Ashertron


There's only one man with the balls to stand up and take back this country.
Vote Ron Paul and show your love for America!!!

reply to post by NoLoveInFear46and2


You can love America and not like Ron Paul. Personally, I don't like the idea of civil and women's rights be held at gun point by a state's values voters. And Paul has clearly stated things like civil rights and abortion should be left up to the states. Our minorities are protected from the majority in this country, or have you not gotten that far in you Social Studies class yet?

Also, reread your post and think about this...you catch more bees with honey.

From what I read some of the founding fathers expected a revolution every 20 years or so as to keep the system in a basic check which would mean politicians would never sit very comfortably on their seats as a baying mob could turn up at any point being rather annoyed and turf them all out and install a new set of people but now its unlikely that the mob will be able to remove them like they originally though

reply to post by DarkKnight76


You're right minorities are very well protected in this country...

I haven't got any viable targets to attack.There isn't any martial law,no mass arrests everything is secret where NOBODY in the press can find it or touch it or it's officialese and protected so, again, no targets.I do often wonder why I hear more information from elite troops than I would EVER hear from the press.As to controls try reporting on an anomalous subject and it has no legs,there is your censorship at work.Try putting out 4 pro gun stories and I'm more than sure you will have a discussion with someone or you will get the dreaded stigmata of a label.Go down to any police dept and print any story of a home owner who offs a burglar it happens all the time.As to your assessment of right or left ,well then ,you already are bias.You are left by what you've said.I'm right to you.
Normal isn't right or left it's an individual and thus cannot be quantified by a title,that is why we are having issues with the two team war that is all political science has become.It's no longer about service to others only service to self as lobbyists so wish it to be.How many of my buddies can I get on the gravy train? The system is failing by money and greed.
I don't see strategy yet to fix anything by force.So no revolution.
The people are still here ,they haven't changed and when a meltdown happens, all this polarism will be swept aside for pragmatic reason.Unless you think we are ignorant enough to turn into a third world country.

reply to post by DarkKnight76

Yeah, as a practicing American journalist, I just don't see the bias that everyone likes to complain about. In my nearly 15 years of working in newsrooms, there has never been a situation where the editor came out and told a reporter you will slant your story one way or the other. And if you are talking about editorials/opinions/TV news, then that isn't really news. And if you follow it as news, then it's no wonder why you would think that.

I just wanted to take a moment and thank you for the time you've put into your posts here. I may not agree with them all and I'm sure I don't need to note that...but you raise some awfully good points and it makes for an interesting read. Particularly in this last post here about your experience as a legitimate working Journalist. It is something to be reminded of from time to time just how large a difference exists between the Internet ...shock sites, I guess is the best way to describe them. Doom porn sites?

Whatever the term we use, but those and what is produced by Journalists with true accountability back to editors who WILL fire them if they play fast and loose without support for a story. I suppose it's easy for many of us here to fancy ourselves citizen journalists at times...but then, to be reminded of how that world really operates is sobering to come back down as the bloggers we all actually are.

I'm also reading and make mental notes of what you're saying about right/left bias as a subtle thing. I'm not sure I agree...but I'll tell you, I had very hard views about Teacher Unions before having an instructor this year that spent his whole life as a High School teacher and Union official at the local level. Hearing the inside from someone who is willing to talk and not be pointed or ugly about it makes quite a difference for context and perspective.

Anyway... I don't write notes like this often. Very rare in fact...but I just felt the need in this instance. Great work!