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so your only problem is with the word god and its connotations,
but its more like having an awareness that there exists forces and causes and events in the past which have given you the opportunity to exist as yourself and experience and learn everything you have an ever will do,
well when thinking of the potential godlike creator of the universe,,,, that creator would be revered and labeled as "God" ( creator of this universe) because of its assumed value and possession of power, control, and intelligence,,,, its creation could become more knowing and powerful then it,,,, just as humans computers can compute and hold more information then a human,,,, all information of human history is stored on a computer and any of it can be accessed in micromoments,,,, The concept of God is that a powerful and intelligent and capable source created the universe,,,, you can use this word to define this original gods creation,,, and say its creation can create and it exists so it is god too,,,,, but i would say yes,,, it is god 2.0 ( compared relatively to the original creator of this universe,, if hypothetically there were one)
Originally posted by TheJackelantern
well when thinking of the potential godlike creator of the universe,,,, that creator would be revered and labeled as "God" ( creator of this universe) because of its assumed value and possession of power, control, and intelligence,,,, its creation could become more knowing and powerful then it,,,, just as humans computers can compute and hold more information then a human,,,, all information of human history is stored on a computer and any of it can be accessed in micromoments,,,, The concept of God is that a powerful and intelligent and capable source created the universe,,,, you can use this word to define this original gods creation,,, and say its creation can create and it exists so it is god too,,,,, but i would say yes,,, it is god 2.0 ( compared relatively to the original creator of this universe,, if hypothetically there were one)
And again the source origin is existence itself. Thus again making it moot since that would then make everything GOD.. We all make up how this universe forms and pans out as we are literally a part of it...There is no I in team there..All the interacting forces and parts are what drives the machine. So again, properly applying infinite regress shows why, on top of the concept issue above, that the concept of GOD is moot.edit on 29-7-2012 by TheJackelantern because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by TheJackelantern
reply to post by ImaFungi
Nope, they only need realize that higher power, just like higher complexity requires more cause to exist than the lower levels of power and complexity.. In fact, just as nine apples can't exist without the other 8, higher power can't exist without all the lower powers that support it. Hence, the most important part of anything, including power, is the foundation and that which gives power in the first place. And if the ants were educated enough, they too would realize that even the big powerful being thinking it's god would be delusional at best. Power doesn't make you a GOD..Especially when you rely on that power to be anything at all. And existence itself is the totality of power from the ground foundation to the highest possible level.. It's the entire spectrum that includes me, those ants, and anything else. The point of why the concept of GOD is moot is also to show why there is no real need or necessity to bother with the concept at all. In reality it's just a concept / belief and nothing more.
edit on 31-7-2012 by TheJackelantern because: (no reason given)
if a king is a king of a country because he possess the most power over the people of that country,,, sets the laws,, originally perhaps it was a man or a clan that organized the country into a country under his/their rule,,,,,,,