Originally posted by randyvs
Take the man who logically would sacrifice himself for the many. A man who would jump on the hand grenade to save his friends ?
Is it really a logical thing to do seeing that he upon his death will no longer have his friends ? Yet out of love there are many that would do something so illogical. So if love is not logical ? Does that mean when we say," God is love"
we are saying God is not logical ? If God is not logical ? What does that say for logic ?
What about the many that would sacrifice themselves for the good of one ?
Is love logical ? If not does that make God illogical? Should human beings toss logic altogether ?
Jesus said: There is no greater love than to lay down one's life for one's friends. -John 15:13
John (a diciple of Jesus', the same guy who said, "God is love") said: This is how we know what love is: Jesus Christ laid down his life for us. And we ought to lay down our lives for our brothers. 1 John 3:16
From these two verses that I've shown thus far, we can believe that the use of the words 'friends' and 'brothers' can be used interchangeably.
We can also believe that Jesus laid down his life for his friends, those whom he considers His brothers. So how does Jesus define friends and brothers?
You are my friends if you do what I command. -John 15:14
I no longer call you servants, because a servant does not know his master's business. Instead, I have called you friends, for everything that I learned from my Father I have made known to you. -John 15:15
For whoever does the will of my Father in heaven is my brother and sister and mother. -Matthew 12:50
From these three verses we can understand that those who Jesus laid down his life are those who do what Jesus commands. "OUR Father who art in heaven, blessed is your name, your kingdom come, your will be done on earth as it is in heaven"...Jesus honored His Father, He did what His Father wanted Him to do.
Jesus could not have known what His Father wanted Him to do unless His Father made known to him everything He learned from His Father. We can not know what God wants of us unless we take heed to Jesus' teachings, because He has made known to us everything He has learned from His Father.
Jesus never claimed to be the sole heir. Jesus never kept any knowledge for Himself but told His disciples everything He Himself knew. I hope that each of us knows that if we love someone, we do not lie to them, nor would we keep them in ignorance of the truth. That is the reason that He was born, to learn, to put what He learned into practice, and to teach that which He learned so that others may put what they learn into practice.
Pilate said, "So you are a king?" Jesus responded, "You say I am a king. Actually, I was born and came into the world to testify to the truth. All who love the truth recognize that what I say is true." -John 18:37
But I tell you the truth: It is for your good that I am going away. Unless I go away, the Counselor will not come to you; but if I go, I will send him to you. -John 16:7
But the Counselor, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you. -John 14:26
Jesus was born into the world, learned, did, taught and departed according to God's will, that we may learn to live and depart from this earth according to God's will. Jesus does not leave us ignorant of what God's will is, the purpose of the Holy Spirit is sent to remind us of everything Jesus has spoken, and Jesus spoke everything he was taught and left nothing to the imagination.
Now, that leads us to the question, If many people will not be able to enter heaven, does that mean that God does not love them, that God won't teach them? Matthew 13:9 He who has ears, let him hear."
Jesus made it clear that there are people who are granted to know and people who are not.
Matthew 13:11 He replied, "The knowledge of the secrets of the kingdom of heaven has been given to you, but not to them.
Now why do you suppose this is? We look to the previous verse to see:
Matthew 13:10 The disciples came to him and asked, "Why do you speak to the people in parables?"
Matthew 7:7 Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you.
Jeremiah 29:13 You will seek me and find me when you seek me with all your heart.
Luke 8:18 Therefore consider carefully how you listen. Whoever has will be given more; whoever does not have, even what he thinks he has will be taken from him."
I will then ask you this, you logical minds, would you trust someone if they told you they loved you if you don't even know them?
And he will reply, 'I tell you, I don't know you or where you come from. Depart from me, all you who do evil.' -Luke 13:27
I believe that God is the most logical being in existence. It takes two to tango.