Originally posted by captaintyinknots
reply to post by bobs_uruncle
Comparing troops deaths to public deaths isnt an equal comparison. troops are a closed group, controlled directly by the gov't. Civilians talk. Tell me, do you, or anyone you know know ANYONE who has died from fallout?
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Originally posted by schuyler
Originally posted by amongus
Epic fail thread.
Mods remove pleaseedit on 16-5-2012 by amongus because: (no reason given)
Actually, it's just not going your way. That's all. If there is any evidence that radiation counts have increased on the West Coast, let's see it. Here's a map of radiation readings which shows no increases compared to readings prior to the tsunami. The idea that you could be sick, which is basically what you were claiming, is nonsensical in the context of radiation. If radiation were Affecting you, one would expect that it would have an effect on many people and not pick on you. Radiation is not giving you a sore throat, nor is it making you lethargic. Seek medical advice.
In terms of the 20,000 extra deaths, this has NOT happened. This mysterious study which no one has read (but is apparently peer reviewed) very likely is statistical in nature. I've seen similar studies before. What these learned folks do is estimate statistically that X amount of radiation will result in an increase in cancers caused by the radiation which might (emphasis on might) cause an additional 20,000 deaths IN THE FUTURE. Being exposed to heavy amounts of radiation does not always kill you instantly. It takes years for the cancer to manifest. This is a statistical exercise with many dependent variables that are difficult to pin down. In other words, it's speculation with a lot of assumptions.
But the fact is, no statistically significant increase in radiation has been measured in North America. Not Seattle. Not anywhere else.