posted on May, 16 2012 @ 04:55 PM
Originally posted by mal1970
reply to post by bobs_uruncle
Nice plan & all, but i think you must have missed the part where he said he was poor. It's right there in the 1st sentence. That leads me to believe
he does not have the many thousands of dollars needed to implement your ideas...
Redneck, your best option (i think) is to make plans to shack up with family or good friends either when or right before the SHTF; basically bugging
Additionally (or alternately) get to know your neighbors/community. Chances are, if they are awake, they are in the same situation. You can't do it
alone unless you have a ton of cash & a BIG family. Make a list of what you can offer the (for lack of a better word) prep'ers in your community &
then get out there & offer them in trade. Even pick up a new skill if you can. Neighborhood bartering will be coming back into fashion again. Best
to get a head start.
Yes, I saw that. Storage containers however are cheap. I got offered 6 of them recently for $50 each because they are so hard to move. So for about
$300 plus the shipping costs and a welding torch I can make a location. I would have to rent a backhoe for two days to excavate so I could bury it in
the side of a hill. Obviously have to put in plumbing and some kind of buried outbuilding for electrical generators. If I use the friction method, I
can build that for a 5kw output for probably less than $500 using parts from wreckers and used equipment locations. So altogether, my hard costs are
less than say about $5,000, the rest is hard work, but if you want to be able to survive you better not be afraid of hard work.
Obviously an important part of all of this is being able to hide that you are even there. Sound insulation using layers of moss, bark and dirt. Using
tubing underground to diffuse and bleed off any out-gasing. Lowering your thermal signature in the building's only face so that it can't be picked up
on thermal's (TIC's) and IR's. Lot's of planning, but then, I have a number of years developing strategy for the military and I am an engineer ;-)
A six storage container building is about 2000 square feet (320sqft/unit). It could easily support 2 families of 4 people (more in a pinch, up to
double that), so, two families have to come up with $2500 each. I'd say that's a pretty good deal to get started. That's where knowing your neighbors
is a good idea, everyone who wants out can pitch in to get out. Selection is important as well, strong healthy people with usable skills and like
mindsets. Doctors, Dentists are always handy, but you need an engineering type as well for maintenance and construction. It is possible to find all
these people in two or three families.
Obviously as things get progressively worse, you'll need extra water filtration equipment and a method of developing an enclosed greenhouse to grow
non-contaminated food), but that can be accomplished as well. When things deteriorate, foraging for equipment, tools and supplies would be necessary
and I am quite sure they would be available. If not, locate mirrors and grow the food where you live by piping in light.
There is a solution to every problem, it just requires a little critical thinking and common sense.
Cheers - Dave
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