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The dictatorship of the anarchists

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posted on May, 16 2012 @ 01:33 PM
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Hello ATSers

A couple of hours ago,my sister and i, we were attacked by anarchists,in a cafe in Exarchia(Athens).

It all started last Friday,when my sister's boss,called her at 12 o'clock at night(she worked in a metal club in Exarchia) and told her that she's fired,because someone told the anarchists that she's a member of "Golden Dawn"(those of you who don't know them,check the thread here ),which of course it's a lie.My sister is 20 years old and she is not politically active.I don't blame the man,because he's afraid that they will destroy his club,if she kept working there.
The same night,from what i've learned,they patroled the bars of the area looking for "fascists" and they ended up attacking random people,who had nothing to do with the radical left party.

Today after i finished work,me,my sister and another friend we went to drink a coffee in Exarchia.Suddenly a guy,around 25 years old,comes to our table and tells my sister:"You have 3 minutes to leave this place" and he left.I went after him to ask for explanation,but he run and i lost him.
Then after 5 minutes he returns with a friend(he couldn't face us alone) and he started threatening us.
He told us that we are fascists and Exarchia belongs to the anarchists.That next time he will kill us and now he gives us a chance to leave in one piece.
We were trying to explain to him that we are not members of Golden Dawn,that i come to this area almost half my life and he has no right to do this.I also told him that he was the fascist for attacking us,for our alleged connection to "Golden Dawn",without proof(Ok i told him pics or didn't happen at some point and he was looking at me like i was an alien
) and he told us that he saw my sister talking to a guy that was a former member of "golden dawn"(that was his main proof) and some other horse#.

Anyway we went to the police station and they told us that we can't press charges,because we didn't know his full name and we should stay low for a while and call them IF they attack us physically.

The so called anarchists of Exarchia square us the same methods the SS used.They attack random people based on rumours or if they don't like their face or if they wear the wrong clothes.
My work is in Exarchia and tomorrow i will go there again.I must stop go to all the places that i go for the last 15 years,because some asshole thinks i'm a fascist.The funny thing is that i have friends that are anarchists and communists as well as radical leftists.
I don't choose people based on their political beliefs and when i told him that, he said that this is impossible.

I'm not afraid of them,but i hate the fact that they dictate they way people must think,dress or behave in "their area".And since when Exarchia became THEIR area?I hate the fact that from now on anyone who will be seen talk to me will be targeted as a fascist and propably attacked.I hate the facts that those cowards will attack my little sister,next time they see her and she will be unable to protect herself.I have already alerted some of my friends,to be extra careful.

After this event and since the police is doing nothing,i seriously consider to become a member of Golden Dawn,so i will have some protection.I don't like them,but the entire situation gives me no other choise.

So my friends,apart from the obvious choice of not going to Exarchia again,which as i said it's impossible because i work there,what would you do if you were in my shoes?Is it me or this whole thing is fascist and ridiculous?

Thanks for putting up with my rant and any advice or suggestion is more than welcome.

PS:In the link i posted above i admit that i voted for the golden dawn party and i explain my reasons for doing it.But i am not a member and i am not a fascist.I also keep my political points of view to myself,because i know them and i know their methods and their way of thinking.
Most people in Exarchia know me as "the conspiracy/UFO lady" or "Manowar"(coz i'm a big fan
).




posted on May, 16 2012 @ 02:11 PM
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...I hate this world and eeeevveerrryyyyyone in it.

*puts .45 in mouth and pulls trigger* :bnghd:

Seriously, that's my response to the idiocy of the politics in this country. I'm about three inches shy of putting every last dime in my savings accoun on the whole world going to hell when that Christ dude falls from the sky.

Hell, he might just look around and say, "Dang, bro, you guys did my job for me," and just POOF! gone.


Oh, it just sickens me so much....my sympathies, but really: you live in America. What did you expect?



posted on May, 16 2012 @ 02:17 PM
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Nope.I live in Athens, Greece.Sorry if i didn't clarify it.



edit on 16-5-2012 by Phantom traveller because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 16 2012 @ 02:22 PM
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Originally posted by Phantom traveller
reply to post by Starchild23
 


Nope.I live in Athens, Greece.Sorry if i didn't clarify it.




It was obvious.

Thanks for posting. I have read that the Golden Dawn have links to the police and are used to break up protest. Have you heard anything about this?



posted on May, 16 2012 @ 02:25 PM
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Yes yes, I know i know, Americans and their guns...

but my wife has a concealed carry. (she was attacked in her youth) and if anyone threatens her like that, they get a confident women who knows she can stand her ground and protect herself.

They would receive a similar ultimatum to leave before THEY got hurt.

People need to point their anger where its rightfully deserved.



posted on May, 16 2012 @ 02:27 PM
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If the police cant be bothered to get off their lazy backsides and do something about it, then I guess the only thing you can do is to get yourself a gun, and start blowing the brains out of those terrorist scum. And if the police THEN decide to do something about YOU, shoot the police too. I hate violence but what else can defeat these animals?



posted on May, 16 2012 @ 02:45 PM
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Also,I read your reply in the thread you linked. I agree. I read that the Golden Dawn was meeting with the Communist Party a while back. Have you heard anything about that?

Im very interested in the Golden Dawn because they are National Socialists. When I read something about them I always take it with a grain of salt. It is intesting to hear from someone that is in the centre of the world riow.

Im sorry I dont have any advice. I have an open mind as far as the Golden Dawn go. Especially after reading what the leftists are doing.



posted on May, 16 2012 @ 04:29 PM
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Stop going in that cafe 2 months ..they will forget



posted on May, 16 2012 @ 05:39 PM
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Originally posted by Germanicus

Originally posted by Phantom traveller
reply to post by Starchild23
 


Nope.I live in Athens, Greece.Sorry if i didn't clarify it.




It was obvious.

Thanks for posting. I have read that the Golden Dawn have links to the police and are used to break up protest. Have you heard anything about this?


I 've read that too and also that many in the pollice force are members of the golden dawn.Unfortunately,according to the laws,they can't do anything until i find out his full name,press charges and go and arrest him.



posted on May, 16 2012 @ 05:47 PM
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Well i wish in Greece the same laws applied about carrying a gun.
You lucky Americans.

reply to post by Firefly_
 


I hate violence too,BUT when it comes to situations like that you have no other choise but to use.To get permission to buy a gun you need a ton of procedures and a mountain of paperwork.There is always the illegal purchasing,but the people who sell the guns are usually mobsters.



posted on May, 16 2012 @ 05:58 PM
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Originally posted by Germanicus
reply to post by Phantom traveller
 


Also,I read your reply in the thread you linked. I agree. I read that the Golden Dawn was meeting with the Communist Party a while back. Have you heard anything about that?

Im very interested in the Golden Dawn because they are National Socialists. When I read something about them I always take it with a grain of salt. It is intesting to hear from someone that is in the centre of the world riow.

Im sorry I dont have any advice. I have an open mind as far as the Golden Dawn go. Especially after reading what the leftists are doing.


Oddly enough,they have many common suggestions with the communists and i read somewhere today that the Communist Party disagrees with everyone,except them.
I can't verify that it's true,coz the Greek MSM is full of propaganda and with the upcoming second round of elections next month they will say anything to change people's minds.

Yesterday i had a discussion with a friend of mine,who is a member of the communist party and we agreed that the two parties should work together and make a strong front against the IMF.

The members of the Golden Dawn only want what's best for Greece.Yes they are extreme and racists,but they are the ones that patrol the neighborhoods with high rates of crime and try to protect elder people from getting robbed or beaten up.They are the ones that help poor Greek people with food and clothes.



posted on May, 16 2012 @ 05:59 PM
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Originally posted by xavi1000
Stop going in that cafe 2 months ..they will forget


It's not just the cafe....It's the entire area that they forbade us to go.



posted on May, 16 2012 @ 08:41 PM
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Per Usual,anarchists being quite the opposite,IT saddens me that people can't even get their political thinking and actions right
.

really though,why do the anarchists usually make anarchy look so bad? IS it bad?
And if you have to get a gun,do,even illegally,if you have to protect your self from these animals.



posted on May, 16 2012 @ 09:40 PM
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Originally posted by Phantom traveller
Hello ATSers

After this event and since the police is doing nothing,i seriously consider to become a member of Golden Dawn,so i will have some protection.I don't like them,but the entire situation gives me no other choise.


In any armed conflict between blue and red, (fascists and anarchists, or extreme Right and Left, respectively) the Left are where safety is. The reason why, is because the Right are primarily motivated by hate, to a much larger extent; they are elitist and exclusionary by definition. If you're not one of the individuals who they consider the "in crowd," then they will either reject you or possibly kill you themselves.

The only thing which Marxists will tend to murder you for is intellectualism; so if you think you're intelligent, keep it to yourself. This is because among Marxists, equality tends to be enforced, (other than among the leadership, of course
) and the only inherent form of inequality is intelligence. The way they resolve that dilemma is by murdering the intelligent, as mentioned. Boxer, the draught horse from Orwell's Animal Farm, is the Marxist ideal. Enormously strong, but with intelligence inversely proportional to strength.

The other point in your favour where a Leftist group are concerned, is that I know you are an atheist, and from memory, a fairly adamant one. Fascists are more inclined towards theism, as a general rule.


So my friends,apart from the obvious choice of not going to Exarchia again,which as i said it's impossible because i work there,what would you do if you were in my shoes?Is it me or this whole thing is fascist and ridiculous?


If centralised authority in Greece is breaking down, then it is reasonable to expect that people will begin making other arrangements; and said arrangements will tend to reduce down to tribalism, in some form or another. That means that the parties in question will become tribes, and their protection will be extended only to those who are identified as their members.


PS:In the link i posted above i admit that i voted for the golden dawn party and i explain my reasons for doing it.


If the anarchists know about this, then yes, you will probably need to leave Exarchia.

edit on 16-5-2012 by petrus4 because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 16 2012 @ 10:53 PM
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Originally posted by Phantom traveller

Originally posted by Germanicus

Originally posted by Phantom traveller
reply to post by Starchild23
 


Nope.I live in Athens, Greece.Sorry if i didn't clarify it.




It was obvious.

Thanks for posting. I have read that the Golden Dawn have links to the police and are used to break up protest. Have you heard anything about this?


I 've read that too and also that many in the pollice force are members of the golden dawn.Unfortunately,according to the laws,they can't do anything until i find out his full name,press charges and go and arrest him.


Get a chick friend to flirt with him and get his phone number and name.

That said:

THIS IS ONE OF THE REASONS I WUV THE SECOND AMENDMENT!



posted on May, 17 2012 @ 05:25 AM
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Originally posted by Szarekh
Per Usual,anarchists being quite the opposite,IT saddens me that people can't even get their political thinking and actions right
.

really though,why do the anarchists usually make anarchy look so bad? IS it bad?
And if you have to get a gun,do,even illegally,if you have to protect your self from these animals.


I know some old school anarchists that hate the "new generation".They call them uneducated,vandals and they claim that most of those kids have no idea what anarchism is.
I found an anarchist friend of mine today and told him what happened and the guy freaked out.



posted on May, 17 2012 @ 05:33 AM
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If the anarchists know about this, then yes, you will probably need to leave Exarchia


Noone will drive me away,besides as i said i keep these things to myself.They only targeted me and labeled me,because of my sister.If i didn't stood up to them,they would propably wouldn't even notice me.For 15 years i had no problem with anyone and never had a single "enemy",if they want war i will gladly give them one.I will make them leave Exarchia (at least i will try
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