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The Elite Believe That You Are Ruining Their Planet And They Want You To Stop Reproducing

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posted on May, 16 2012 @ 01:28 PM
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Ok so this may also be put into the NWO forum, either way its relevant.


Today, there are more than 7 billion people living on earth. For the global elite, that is problem number one. The vast majority of us don’t spend much time thinking about global population issues, but for many among the elite it is an absolute obsession. Many of them truly believe that you are ruiningtheir planet and they desperately want you to stop reproducing so much. Among the elite, the belief that the world is grossly overpopulated and that this is causing most of our major global problems crosses all political, cultural and social boundaries.


S ource

I've heard this many times, and after doing a lot of research into the NWO and Agenda 21, it is obvious that this is definitely the feeling of the worlds elite!


In fact, one scientist recently estimated that a child born in the United States has a “carbon legacy” 55 times greater than a child born in India. The elite are convinced that if they can reduce the global population far enough and get the remaining people living on earth to switch over to “sustainable lifestyles” that they will be able to save “their” planet.


Look at Bill Gate pushing the Planned Parent Hood stuff, The UN pushing agenda 21, Kissinger being the Architect if the 'One-Child Policy' in China.. it seems obvious that the theory that the elite want to depopulate the earth is apparent.

Bill Gates talking about reducing population using vaccines and reproductive policies:



Here is a good Documentary regarding Agenda 21, Fema Camps and the plans to reduce world population down 80%:



There is a ton of evidence and admittance from many of the Global Elite talking about this subject. It also coincides with those crazy stones erected in Georgia, The 'Guidestones'


1. MAINTAIN HUMANITY UNDER 500,000,000 IN PERPETUAL BALANCE WITH NATURE




And here is a website with more information on those weird guidestones
Guidestones

Also, a Link to a thread on ATS about the guidestones too.. really interesing stuff!

Anyways, I think this is a Topic that everyone should know about, and if you agree or not, I would like to hear your opinions and thoughts on the matter!
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posted on May, 16 2012 @ 01:31 PM
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Oh, and they are saving it eh? If it wasnt for us, they wouldnt BE elite.



posted on May, 16 2012 @ 01:38 PM
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I'm sorry, but why is a more sustainable planet a bad thing?
I don't care what intentions the ''elite'' might have, a decrease in the human population is a necessity.
Let's face it, there are too many of us.



posted on May, 16 2012 @ 01:38 PM
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George Soros is the individual who paid for the Georgia Guide Stones.

The only "elite" who want people to stop making babies are the communists, national socialists, and other tyrannical scum.

It is the same, tired, old marxist crap.



posted on May, 16 2012 @ 01:43 PM
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Under the current economic system, growth is not sustainable.

In order to sustain the population at its current level changes need to happen.

Changes most in the western world will not want.

Planed obsolescence in products need to stop, long term sustainable products.

Better distribution and transportation methods...

An almost socialist attitude toward staple goods for survival ie food, water...

Baring that, you know the "hard" way of fixing the problems, you could always go the easy way and de populate.

Think about the last time you went to the grocery store, products costing the same and coming with less, more filler products like Pink slime, these will be come the norm as the pop continues to grow.

Humanity needs to grow responsibly otherwise we are all screwed.

I Love how its all the way or no way with many of these solutions, you can have a free market and not base it on the goods needed for basic human survival, the west can still have its capitalist system, just bases it on luxury goods as opposed to survival goods.
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posted on May, 16 2012 @ 01:48 PM
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As pointed out above, the ONLY problem we have with growth in human numbers is our economy. Fiat currency cannot sustain large populations.

The overpopulation myth is just that, a myth, if you don't look at our economic situation.

Once that is resolved, we could populate this planet well into the hundreds of billions without much problem.

(I'm exageratting with that number, but there you go.)

~Tenth



posted on May, 16 2012 @ 01:52 PM
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The overpopulation myth is just that, a myth, if you don't look at our economic situation.


exactly, all these "sustainability" problems are only problems as long as you are looking at it as a for profit business.

How many of us have worked or know people who work in the food industry while trying to pay for school, HOW much food is thrown away rather than donated?

and thats just one aspect of it.

Necessities for basic human life should not be run for profit... if that makes me a socialist than I guess so, there could still be a capitalist free market on all luxury items.



posted on May, 16 2012 @ 01:55 PM
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We are ruining the planet. We are destroying life.

Not the common people, or the average person, or the corporations, or banks, or the "elite".

It is We as the collective who is doing it all.

 



Change comes from you, and me, and every individual person on this planet. We're all in this together, and each insignificant thing we do is actually enormously significant!



posted on May, 16 2012 @ 02:06 PM
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George Soros is the individual who paid for the Georgia Guide Stones. The only "elite" who want people to stop making babies are the communists, national socialists, and other tyrannical scum. It is the same, tired, old marxist crap.


Its the denial of the problem that makes the Elites think that they need to take drastic measures (if the conspiracy is true)

Look at things like starvation and drought in africa, events like the oil spill and fukishma, and say there is not a problem with the world.

It comes down to a cancer patient choice to do chemo, you can let the cancer run its course or you can take drastic measures ...

Sadly we act like cancer, and until we change our actions, the response they see is to treat it like cancer.



posted on May, 16 2012 @ 02:14 PM
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Originally posted by benrl
Under the current economic system, growth is not sustainable.

In order to sustain the population at its current level changes need to happen.

Changes most in the western world will not want.

Planed obsolescence in products need to stop, long term sustainable products.

Better distribution and transportation methods...

An almost socialist attitude toward staple goods for survival ie food, water...

Baring that, you know the "hard" way of fixing the problems, you could always go the easy way and de populate.

Think about the last time you went to the grocery store, products costing the same and coming with less, more filler products like Pink slime, these will be come the norm as the pop continues to grow.

Humanity needs to grow responsibly otherwise we are all screwed.

I Love how its all the way or no way with many of these solutions, you can have a free market and not base it on the goods needed for basic human survival, the west can still have its capitalist system, just bases it on luxury goods as opposed to survival goods.
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Actually, the population in the US and Canada is not growing. We have an immigration problem, where the immigrants coming in are breeding out of control. In India (Asia) and other countries in the African continent, they are also breeding out of control. Third world countries in general also breed out of control. People in "western" developed nations are generally having one child, which is at least a 33% reduction in generational population.

The problem is not North America, except for the stupid immigration policies. Fix that and we are at zero or negative growth which would also fix the unemployment problem. The entire situation in North America has been staged by the power money to use as a scapegoat while not examining other locations that are out of control.

So where is this population problem again? Take it there.

Cheers - Dave



posted on May, 16 2012 @ 02:19 PM
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Most people don't give a damn about anything as long as they themselfs are safe, and that is a huge problem. However, the elite are to blaim, but they of course are too high on their own ego to admit this. Weren't the elite the ones controlling basically everything? Weren't the elite the ones controlling the corporations responsible for most ecological disasters? Weren't the elite the ones controlling the governments that decided it would be a good idea to test thousands of nukes? Weren't the elites the ones who decided it would be best to dumb us down with poison in our food and water? Weren't the elite responsible for turning us humans into what we are today?

When have they ever tried to lift humanity up? They didn't! They are the ones who made sure most don't give a damn about anything besides money.

Would we be in the current situation at all, if the elite didn't dumb us down, kept pouring chemicals in the oceans, destroying eco systems etc etc? It's THEIR fault, and I #ing hate them for it.



posted on May, 16 2012 @ 02:27 PM
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Ive said for a very long time that depopulation is a very smart, and necessary, idea.

The issue comes in with how it is carried out. If people simply procreate responsibly, it wouldnt be an issue.



posted on May, 16 2012 @ 02:30 PM
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Actually, the population in the US and Canada is not growing. We have an immigration problem, where the immigrants coming in are breeding out of control. In India (Asia) and other countries in the African continent, they are also breeding out of control. Third world countries in general also breed out of control. People in "western" developed nations are generally having one child, which is at least a 33% reduction in generational population. The problem is not North America, except for the stupid immigration policies. Fix that and we are at zero or negative growth which would also fix the unemployment problem. The entire situation in North America has been staged by the power money to use as a scapegoat while not examining other locations that are out of control. So where is this population problem again? Take it there. Cheers - Dave
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I was unaware that Canada and America have found a way to remove themselves from the world... Didn't know they excluded themselves from the WHOLE of humanity.

In those pour countries breeding out of control it is American industry destroying their own ability to self sustain.

It is American greed that pollutes the aquifers in foreign poorer countries, it is the demand for CHEAP disposable goods that is destroyed the entire planet...

But as long as # still cheep in your neck of the woods why give a crap about the rest of the world right?

Like I said, most WESTERNERS will have a problem with solving these issues.
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posted on May, 16 2012 @ 03:49 PM
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Overpopulation is only a problem because the more of us there are, the more resources elitists must dedicate to controlling us, and keeping us dumbed down.

It wouldn't do for us to figure out who has really done the lions share of damage to the planet.
It wouldn't do for us to figure out who is behind the problems with allocation and production of resources on this planet.
It wouldn't do for us to figure out that our self-appointed faux "saviors" are the biggest cause of starvation, disease, sickness, and death on this planet. Of humans, and of animal species.

The problems that exist, exist because they want them to exist.

The only real fault average Joe or Jane has in all this, is that we buy into their BS, and we don't demand a better world than what they have given us.

We have the technology for double and triple the population. But no, we can't keep sustaining the worlds corporations and leaders like we have been. The unsustainability problem is them, not us.

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posted on May, 16 2012 @ 03:57 PM
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Originally posted by Klassified
Overpopulation is only a problem because the more of us there are, the more resources elitists must dedicate to controlling us, and keeping us dumbed down.

It wouldn't do for us to figure out who has really done the lions share of damage to the planet.
It wouldn't do for us to figure out who is behind the problems with allocation and production of resources on this planet.
It wouldn't do for us to figure out that our self-appointed faux "saviors" are the biggest cause of starvation, disease, sickness, and death on this planet. Of humans, and of animal species.

The problems that exist, exist because they want them to exist.

The only real fault average Joe or Jane has in all this, is that we buy into their BS, and we don't demand a better world than what they have given us.

We have the technology for double and triple the population. But no, we can't keep sustaining the worlds corporations and leaders like we have been. The unsustainability problem is them, not us.

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And yet we wouldnt have the tech to sustain such population growth, as you say we do, without the corporations and "elite". It is all cyclical. We all have a hand in the cookie jar.



posted on May, 16 2012 @ 04:02 PM
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we have patented life

now
IE Mofos
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posted on May, 16 2012 @ 04:18 PM
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And yet we wouldnt have the tech to sustain such population growth, as you say we do, without the corporations and "elite". It is all cyclical. We all have a hand in the cookie jar.

There is some truth to that statement. But the end does not justify the means.



posted on May, 16 2012 @ 05:39 PM
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Originally posted by ssupp
I'm sorry, but why is a more sustainable planet a bad thing?
I don't care what intentions the ''elite'' might have, a decrease in the human population is a necessity.
Let's face it, there are too many of us.


I am sorry, but I don't agree with you.

I find the intentions of the elite to be blind and self serving and yes it does matter. A decrease in the population is only a necessity if people continue to be too ignorant to figure out it's time to start moving our population into space and get some of us off the planet or figure out that the way we live is not sustainable.

Let's face it though, humanity as a whole is ignorant and stupid.



Originally posted by captaintyinknots
Ive said for a very long time that depopulation is a very smart, and necessary, idea. The issue comes in with how it is carried out. If people simply procreate responsibly, it wouldnt be an issue.


There is nothing smart or necessary about the idea of depopulation. I mean if humanity was really smart we would actually be concentrating or mental and physical effort on moving people and infrastructure into space and save the top soil of the earth for growing food, gathering renewable resources and allowing nature to flourish. There actually is a lot of land covered in asphalt, concrete, buildings, houses and ornamental lawns, that actually could be used to produce enough food for all 7 billion people and many billion more.

The truth is the elite ARE the ones holding us down on this planet, limiting the exploration and colonization of space by the masses, which leads to more and more people on the planet and ever spreading and sprawling infrastructure; creating the problem, then you get people talking about starvation and overpopulation; masses reacting and demanding the solution, and the elite keep saying most of us should just up and die, themselves and their families excluded of course, because they are so special; offering the solution.

And I know many people will criticize the idea of humanity moving into space and I can accept that people are lazy and shortsighted, but space isn't the only answer. The truth is we could also grow enough food for everyone if we moved underground as well. The fact is the earth's most precious resource is the first few inches of top soil where the majority of the plants we eat grow on and humanity covers it with concrete, asphalt, buildings, houses, ornamental lawns and bushes. If we moved or buildings, housing and transportation underground, we would have more then enough top soil to grow food and gather resources, but I never hear the elite offer either space or moving underground as a solution. All I ever hear from them is death, death, death.

The real question people should ask about the elite is why the are so obsessed with killing people, I mean why does their solutions always end up being people should die? It sad in the end the elites solutions always seem to end up sounding like Hitler's final solution.

I guess people can listen to the elite if they want, but I won't. I don't find them to be elite; they are not really intelligent, or bright or great thinkers, that are not even physically strong or special, they are not even great leaders who stand up and lead the people towards making a better world; in the end the only thing that truly sets them apart is their cruelty, greed, lack of compassion, and their psychotic obsession with death. And in conclusion I say what many people say, "they want the population reduced let them go first....I promise.....I will be along behind them....at some point."


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posted on May, 16 2012 @ 07:47 PM
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There's nothing smart about depopulation?

So famine, poverty, starvation, disease, and war are all good things? All are direct effects of overpopulation. Yes, they exist even if the numbers dwindle, but as population rises, so do these things exponentially.

Furthermore, and this is a philisophical pov, so we may not agree, but there is a balance to be drawn with nature. Our population is unbalanced.

In conclusion, my view has nothing to do with what the "elite" may or may not want. The only elite that matters is the elite mother to us all. Mother earth. And it should be our goal to live in harmony with her, not spread like bacteria as fast as we can and rape her of her resources.
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posted on May, 17 2012 @ 08:26 AM
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This post lead me to the Georgia Guidestone thread which I found quite interesting, I posted my thoughts I had in that thread but I S&Fed.

My thoughts on your topic I just melded into the other topic but went something like this ...



Signs of a planned depopulation or plans for the aftermath of an unseen catastrophic event, whether natural or unnatural and the rebuilding of civilization ? To me it seems to be targeting a post-apocalypse audience or people "rebuilding" after "something" as some of the "guidelines" make no sense for this time and the area. Someone(s) certainly put some serious thought, time, effort and money into this project.


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