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By not having their houses condemned and seized by the government because they couldn't afford electricity or plumbing, which was actually my point. Because in the age of bureaucracy we live in, that's going to happen. Which, again, is my original point: we won't have government help, and a lot of people won't have the freedom to help themselves.
Originally posted by The Sword
reply to post by beezzer
In other words, utter chaos.
No need for austerity when you can simply remove the Fed and bankrupt the Rothschilds. It can be done.
After all, money is paper.
Originally posted by beezzer
reply to post by 00nunya00
First off, it's an election year. All politicians will weasel out of any type of austerity for now.
Wht we, as americans, need to do is self-wean NOW. Before cuts actually take place.
That way, we can at least prepare ourselves.
For example; I'm 49. And I know I'm not going to see one dime of social security that they forcibly took from me. So the wife and I are planning our funds, our retirement with the understanding that we WON'T see it.
The Vice President does not automatically receive a pension based on that office, but instead receives the same pension as other members of Congress based on his position as president of the Senate. The Vice President must serve a minimum of five years to qualify for a pension.
The pension amount is determined by a formula that takes into account the years served and the average pay for the top three years in terms of payment. In 2002, the average pension payment ranged from $41,000 to $55,000. For example, a member of Congress who worked for 22 years and had a top three-year average salary of $153,900 would be eligible for a pension payment of $84,645 per year.
Originally posted by N3k9Ni
Department of Homeland Security $42.7 billion
Internal Revenue Service $12.3 billion
Drug Enforcement Administration $2.415 billion
Equal Employment Opportunity Commission $385 million
Minority Business Development Agency $35 million
Overseas Private Investment Corporation $57.89 million
Selective Service System $23.9 million
Women's Bureau $106.7 million
Current President's salary $400,000
Current Presidential pension $191,300
Current Vice President's salary $230,700
Current Congressional salary $174,000
Average Congressional pension (includes Vice President)
Total salaries and pensions $94,677,200
Cutting that amount in half yields $47,338,600
Which of these would you cut and by how much?edit on 16-5-2012 by N3k9Ni because: typo