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Catholic university drops student health insurance, cites ObamaCare

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posted on May, 16 2012 @ 09:28 AM
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Catholic university drops student health insurance, cites ObamaCare
Published May 16, 2012
FoxNews.com


Franciscan University in Steubenville, Ohio is dropping healthcare insurance for students !!!
(only students, not employees !)

Reason: ObamaCare Associated Costs !!


A Catholic university in Ohio said Tuesday it is being forced to end a student health insurance program over the Obama administration's contraception mandate and costs associated with other provisions of the health care overhaul.

Franciscan University in Steubenville, Ohio, said it has so far excluded contraceptive services and products from its health insurance policy for students and will not participate in a plan that “requires us to violate the consistent teachings of the Catholic Church on the sacredness of human life.”

In its decision to drop coverage, the school cited the contraception mandate, but also a requirement that the maximum coverage amount be increased to $100,000 for policyholders -- claiming that would have made premiums skyrocket. A university official told Fox News Radio the students’ basic $600 policy was going to double in cost in the fall and triple next year and that the school’s insurance provider said the increases were the result of the federal Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act.




"This is putting people in a position where they are having to choose between their faith and their morality, and now an unjust cost," said Mike Hernon, the school’s vice president of advancement. "These sorts of regulations from the government are forcing our hand in a way that's really wrong."

Hernon also told Fox News on Wednesday that the changes represented a "moral and economic injustice."

"This is unconscionable," he said.



There may be some conflicting ideas here however:
(from a March 18th thread)

Originally posted by xuenchen
The Departments of Health and Human Services published a statement
Friday March 16, 2012.

The release mentions that women's health care
preventive services including contraceptives and sterilizations
will be without cost sharing.

And it looks like non-profit religious organizations may not be forced to
participate (including pay for) based on religious grounds.

Perhaps all the recent objections and some lawsuits have changed their minds ?

A final rule on governing student health plans was also released ...
Students gain the same consumer protections as employees of colleges and universities.


Official HHS News Release:

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
March 16, 2012

Administration releases Advance Notice of Proposed Rulemaking on preventive services policy

Officials at the Departments of Health and Human Services (HHS), Labor, and the Treasury today took the next step in the Obama administration’s effort to ensure women access to recommended preventive services while respecting religious liberty. The Advanced Notice of Proposed Rulemaking issued today outlines draft proposals to implement the policy announced by President Barack Obama and HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius on Feb. 10, 2012. This policy will provide women with access to recommended preventive services including contraceptives without cost sharing, while ensuring that non-profit religious organizations are not forced to pay for, provide, or facilitate the provision of any contraceptive service they object to on religious grounds. The Advance Notice of Proposed Rulemaking issued today gives all Americans the chance to formally comment on ideas for implementing this policy.

Administration officials also released a final rule governing student health plans. Under the final rule, students will gain the same consumer protections other people with individual market insurance have, like a prohibition on lifetime limits and coverage of preventive services without cost sharing. In the same way that religious colleges and universities will not have to pay, arrange or refer for contraceptive coverage for their employees, they will not have to do so for their students who will get such coverage directly and separately from their insurer.

“The President’s policy respects religious liberty and makes free preventive services available to women,” said Secretary Sebelius. “Today’s announcement is the next step toward fulfilling that commitment.”

Today’s Federal Register advance notice concerning women’s preventive services calls for a 90-day public comment period. The departments will also hold listening sessions.

The advance notice of proposed rulemaking on women’s preventive services and the student health plan final rule is available in the Federal Register at
www.federalregister.gov...

For more information on women’s preventive services, visit:
www.healthcare.gov...

For more information on the student health plan final rule, visit:
www.healthcare.gov...


HHS News release

HHS Releases ObamaCare Notice - with Religious Exemptions ?


Is this the beginning of the end ?



Or will the Supreme Court say it's "The End of the Beginning ?





posted on May, 16 2012 @ 09:31 AM
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Of course, because birth control is a terrible idea all around, and so are condoms.

What a silly thing to want to protect yourself against unwanted pregnancy and STD's..

Abstinence is a ridiculous thing to use as a means of preventing the two things outlined above, for the simple fact that it doesn't work and for the purpose of kids, it's not teaching them anything other than to be guilty about their very natural sexual urges.

Acting on them responsibly requires education, not chastisement.

As for Obamacare, the whole law it's ridiculous, illegal, should be thrown out. It only lines the pockets of the private insurance folks who were already bleeding the country dry in sky rocketing costs, which this plan does not solve.

~Tenth



posted on May, 16 2012 @ 09:36 AM
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If the school can't afford to offer its students comprehensive insurance, then they shouldn't offer it. I didn't realize students could get insurance through their school, anyway...

This sounds more like a sensationalistic story to balk against having to provide contraception coverage. Whiners.



posted on May, 16 2012 @ 09:41 AM
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Originally posted by tothetenthpower
Of course, because birth control is a terrible idea all around, and so are condoms.

What a silly thing to want to protect yourself against unwanted pregnancy and STD's..

Abstinence is a ridiculous thing to use as a means of preventing the two things outlined above, for the simple fact that it doesn't work and for the purpose of kids, it's not teaching them anything other than to be guilty about their very natural sexual urges.

Acting on them responsibly requires education, not chastisement.

As for Obamacare, the whole law it's ridiculous, illegal, should be thrown out. It only lines the pockets of the private insurance folks who were already bleeding the country dry in sky rocketing costs, which this plan does not solve.

~Tenth


apparently "obamacare" is ok for those working there...just not the students...a church school that picks it's own religous dictates, over the health of it's students, has no standing in my eyes. i guess the only "healthcare" the students can get now is church counseling about being molested by the priests



posted on May, 16 2012 @ 09:54 AM
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The point is religious freedom. If they want birth control maybe they should not work for institutions that do not believe in such?



posted on May, 16 2012 @ 09:54 AM
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AKA: They're blaming the costs, but the real reason is the contraception thing. If it was about the cost, they would've dropped it a good while ago.



posted on May, 16 2012 @ 09:56 AM
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reply to post by DarthMuerte
 


Read the story.

This is about the STUDENTS there. Notice the school is not crying about providing comprehensive health care to their employees, just the students.



posted on May, 16 2012 @ 10:11 AM
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Franciscan University of Steubenville has approx 3,000 students. It has approx 250 employees.
Tuition isn't high .. it's $18,000 a year. Compared to other schools it's not a big money maker.
It's making sure the employees keep their health insurance. (last I heard)
Most of the students will most likely be kept on their parents health insurance anyways.

The school simply can't afford to cover the students anymore. It's just that simple.

Steubenville


edit on 5/16/2012 by FlyersFan because: spelling



posted on May, 16 2012 @ 10:14 AM
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The S#!T storm will ensue going forward. Think about how many small business around the country that currently are unable to pay employee healt care costs, now add to that an imposed penalty (fine) for not covering or having to pay mandated premiums. This is a job killer. The morality side takes a strong seat with me as well but the economic implications will be just as bad for this country!



posted on May, 16 2012 @ 11:15 AM
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Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
reply to post by DarthMuerte
 


Read the story.

This is about the STUDENTS there. Notice the school is not crying about providing comprehensive health care to their employees, just the students.
Either way. Elections and laws have consequences. Expect this to be just the beginning. I expect job cuts, outsourcing and the growing use of temps/independent contractors.



posted on May, 16 2012 @ 11:29 AM
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They are upset about the potential requirement that they will have to choose a plan that provides preventitive care including Birth Control.

Whether they will be required to hasn't been decided yet.

This is religious stance they are taking..Not economic


“The Obama Administration has mandated that all health insurance plans must cover ‘women’s health services’ including contraception, sterilization, and abortion-causing medications as part of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (PPACA),” according to a university statement. “Up to this time, Franciscan University has specifically excluded these services and products from its student health insurance policy, and we will not participate in a plan that requires us to violate the consistent teachings of the Catholic Church on the sacredness of human life.”


And those costs - that don't exist becuase the decision hasn't been made yet - would have been carried by THE STUDENTS...as an OPTION...



“Additionally, the PPACA increased the mandated maximum coverage amount for student policies to $100,000 for the 2012-13 school year, which would effectively double your[]/b] premium cost for the policy in fall 2012, with the expectation of further increases in the future,” the statement said.


How many of the 2800 students choose to purchase Insurance via the university??



The university will no longer require its undergraduates to carry insurance, according to the statement. "We didn't want to put them in a situation where they would have to violate their conscience," Michael Hernon, a vice president at Franciscan University, told Reuters.

Fewer than 200 students at the campus in southeast Ohio had been buying insurance from the university, Hernon told Reuters. Franciscan University has nearly 2,800 students.


This is not a cost decision...it is a political swipe by a university administration that has been a loud opponent to birth control on a requirement that hasn't even been decided yet. The costs would be carried by less than 200 students...not carried by the university.

Loud barking from a Catholic administration about requirements that aren't even decided yet...tempest in a teapot.



posted on May, 16 2012 @ 11:33 AM
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It is always best to protest a change before it becomes law in the hopes that it never becomes law. The whole bammy care law is unConstitutional anyway.



posted on May, 16 2012 @ 01:57 PM
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So what is the point of carrying insurance when those students are covered under mommy and daddy's insurance policy til 26?

Obama care is the reason why provide something they do not have to?

Makes sense to me.
edit on 16-5-2012 by neo96 because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 16 2012 @ 02:10 PM
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Originally posted by DarthMuerte
The point is religious freedom. If they want birth control maybe they should not work for institutions that do not believe in such?


religous freedom is fine...so long as taxpayers aren't subsidizing religous business tax write-offs.
and can anybody tell me how a mythical being (god) has MORE control than a woman does, over her own reproductive organs?...please, this is a policy made up by old men 1500 to 2000 years ago, (when women were still thought of as property of a man), so that the "church" can expand it's membership.



posted on May, 16 2012 @ 02:13 PM
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Originally posted by DarthMuerte
It is always best to protest a change before it becomes law in the hopes that it never becomes law. The whole bammy care law is unConstitutional anyway.


no it isn't, if it was, we wouldn't have medicare or social security. tell me how it is unconstitutional, and quote the legal reference.



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