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Originally posted by autowrench
reply to post by Xcathdra
I do think this Supreme Court will rule on the side of the citizen.
I agree, I think they will side with the people also. There have just been way too many incidents where people have been tazed by cops that resulted in serious injuries. Anyone with a heart problem could suffer a fatal attack, myself inclusive. This is compounded by my big mouth and working knowledge of the Common Law. So far, I have had no problems, but.....
Come on, Supreme Court, do the human thing here.
Originally posted by The Sword
reply to post by EvilSadamClone
You punish them ALL in this case.
I don't care. I can't stand cops.
Originally posted by Xcathdra
Tasers have no effect on the heart.
Tasers have no effect on the heart.
The TASER ECD pulses mimic the electrical signals used within the human body to communicate between the brain and the muscles. The TASER ECD simulates the pulsed communications used within the nerves, and interferes with communication – like static on the telephone lines within the body.
Controversy exists concerning the lethality of Tasers. These are conducted electrical weapons which incapacitate subjects by delivering an electrical charge that causes diffuse muscle contraction. In North America, over 440 deaths have been reported immediately following Taser use. Taser International has recently suggested that Tasers should not be aimed at the chest, although there is no conclusive proof that a discharge over the heart would cause an arrhythmia. The case history is presented of a young man who was shot in the chest by a Taser and presented to the emergency department in ventricular fibrillation.
X did a good job of explaining how the statistics really break dow.
However, taking Tasers away is not the answer.
Originally posted by TheRedneck
As long as Tasers are considered 'harmless', they will continue to be abused by police departments and IMO should be outlawed. Only if they are relabeled as an alternative to deadly force and not, not, NOT as something to be fired every time a law enforcement officer has a bad day, then perhaps they can be used for the advantages they actually offer.
Tasers have to be used with common sense.
Now suddenly we are to believe that 5000VAC at 19 Hz is safe while we know that 110VAC at 50/60 Hz is deadly.
Electricity has been used to execute convicts, torture prisoners of war, control dangerous animals, etc.
True, the current is regulated in a Taser, but the total available charge is more than sufficient to stop a healthy heart should it receive the full amount.
Neither is allowing them to be used on the young, the infirm, the pregnant, or the elderly an acceptable answer.
by labeling them as 'non-lethal' and 'harmless'
every time an officer is met with any amount of perceived opposition, no matter how minor or by whom.
The simple solution, if you want police to carry tasers, is to treat each tasing as though a firearm were discharged, and to hold officers legally accountable for damages resulting from unwarranted tasings.
But of course, that will never happen; the only recourse left is to remove them from service and go back to police work like it was before they existed.
Volts don't kill the amps do.
Electricity is used far more often to save lives, provide sanitation, and make modern life possible.
A healthy heart can easily withstand a full blast from the Taser. There are variances that reduce the resistance (ohms load) of a person's body. However, an average person in average health should be able to withstand a taser blast with no heart issues.
In my department it is forbidden unless are other methods have been exhausted. You will be facing demotion or unpaid leave at a minimum. Depending on circumstances termination is a possibility.
This idea that cops are meeting every bit of resistance with undue force (or force at all) is largely built on sensationalistic reporting.
You mean like when they carried "black jacks" that left people crippled, maimed, and brain dead?