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Originally posted by micmerci
Wasn't there something mentioned about Eden during the Iraq war? I don't remember details but it had to do with soldiers in a town that had some landmarks that raised the possibility that the garden was in that area. Does anyone else remember this?
Göbekli Tepe is the oldest stone temple anywhere in the world, and has to be a key to understanding the symbolism of the story of the Garden of Eden. Most southerly cult building at Göbekli Tepe It is strange that the snake appears as an important symbol in the Book of Genesis's story of Adam and Eve. Here in the Old Testament it symbolizes the knowledge of awareness that Adam and Eve are naked, and that they should cover themselves. I feel it is a metaphor for the manner in which the incoming ruling elite of Upper Mesopotamia, the suspected Watchers of the Book of Enoch, gave mortal kind forbidden knowledge, which forever changed the way they thought about life. However, it was a case of too much knowledge too soon, and so Adam and Eve were cast out of Eden, which we know to have been a real kingdom focused on Lake Van, a huge inland sea in Eastern Turkey. From here the Euphrates and Tigris, two of the rivers of paradise, take their course before flowing down into Iraq's Fertile Crescent.
In the Book of Genesis, it is indicated that Eden is west of Assyria. Sure enough, this is where Gobekli is sited. Likewise, biblical Eden is by four rivers, including the Tigris and Euphrates. And Gobekli lies between both of these. In ancient Assyrian texts, there is mention of a 'Beth Eden' - a house of Eden. This minor kingdom was 50 miles from Gobekli Tepe. Another book in the Old Testament talks of 'the children of Eden which were in Thelasar', a town in northern Syria, near Gobekli. The very word 'Eden' comes from the Sumerian for 'plain'; Gobekli lies on the plains of Harran. Thus, when you put it all together, the evidence is persuasive. Gobekli Tepe is, indeed, a 'temple in Eden', built by our leisured and fortunate ancestors - people who had time to cultivate art, architecture and complex ritual, before the traumas of agriculture ruined their lifestyle, and devastated their paradise.
Originally posted by SilentKoala
What I want to know is, where did Cain's wife come from? It says God created Adam, Even, Cain, and Abel, then Cain killed Abel, so there were only 3 humans left. Then Cain slept with his "wife". Who was Cain's "wife"? Was it Eve? So he had sex with his mother? Then he has to have a mark put on him so all the other inhabitants would be able to identify him. So there were so many inhabitants on earth that Cain wasn't recognizable unless he had a mark? Where did all these people come from? If it was all brothers and sisters of Cain we weren't told about, there still wasn't enough time to produce so many siblings that Cain wouldn't be identifiable without a unique mark. If, on the other hand, God created other humans in addition to Adam and Eve, those other humans wouldn't have inherited their sin, which kindof contradicts the whole biblical narrative.edit on 15-5-2012 by SilentKoala because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Praetorius
reply to post by newcovenant
I lean toward Gobeckli Tepe myself as it's in the right area and is pretty much our oldest known site...which a LOT of effort went into at different points for some reason.
Seems more likely to me than anywhere else until more info comes along.