Armed drones now flying over the US

www.youtube.com...

You people are #ng retarded children. The man already has additional video (from Elgin, IL) showing the blackhawks whippin' around there. Are those all fake too? It's a MF NATO Summit, you idiots!

Do any of you READ?! WTF is the debate here?? We now have these civilian, killing-machines roaming our airspace, 24/7, with plans for MANY more.

The original drone video is absolutely real, despite your ADHD attempts to prove otherwise.

reply to post by PatientZer0


I swear I just saw one. One city over from Elgin. I tried to get it on cam but I was driving. I looked back at the footage an couldn't see it. It was small, silver, low flying, and SMOOTH flying. And I was sitting at a stoplight, and a person was next to me with their window down and I was so close to yelling.
"OH HELLLLL NO! DRONES?!" and I Decided that it was best to keep that to myself. But they were totally watching me watch it and I probably looked pissed xD

My gut feeling is that it is a hoax.

The camera focuses on the wrong part of the sky. Then the camera follows with the "drone" in the wrong place and the camera apparently stops.

To me this spells HOAX. Somebody decided to shoot a pice of the sky for the purpose of making this and the subsequent CGI was badly done.

We should always suspect this type of camerawork.

We should always suspect a clip that picks up something and then stops before the object has left the filmable area.

EDIT:
Yes I have read the posts - and yes - I still think it feels wrong watching the OP video.

reply to post by HolgerTheDane2


I think it's more like. the video looks fake yes, why didn't he follow it, it was on open field?
even if the video IS fake, they can't SAY that it is fake because there ARE drones around here. for NATO.
so even though the film is probably fake, they can't deny the presence of drones in the area, because they're here.
I've said before, I saw one earlier today. and It was a town away from the vid.

Originally posted by PatientZer0
You people are #ng retarded children. The man already has additional video (from Elgin, IL) showing the blackhawks whippin' around there. Are those all fake too? It's a MF NATO Summit, you idiots!

Do any of you READ?! WTF is the debate here?? We now have these civilian, killing-machines roaming our airspace, 24/7, with plans for MANY more.

The original drone video is absolutely real, despite your ADHD attempts to prove otherwise.

Only in your imagination. There is a whole world of difference between helicopters providing security and this video footage of an armed Predator UAV. What you are assuming is that just because it is a NATO summit that armed unmanned aerial vehicles are being deployed. The original drone video is not real. Explain why there is no perspective or parallax as this alleged armed Predator passes by? Explain why the exact same still flying image used in the video appears on the first page on an internet search? All you have done is taken the video at face value without really examining it.

The helicopters filmed by MisterBees are not Blackhawks, but OH-58 Kiowa.

I started doing a little homework on the "MisterBees" Youtube post of the armed Predator drone. That username is claiming copyright on this video.

This username is affiliated with a viral marketing network. There are 4 videos on the site, all under 3000 views, and this one goes up and gets 150,000 views.

Then you do a Google search and find out its been marketed to go viral. (see affiliate: WickedFire)

If you look really closely at this video, there appears to be a sun reflection off the drone, yet it looks like it is flying under some really heavy dark cloud-cover.

The flight path is absolutely linear and level, and why doesn't the camera zoom in and focus on the drone?

Fox News just about begged for someone to do something about the drones "and they'd be a national hero", so where is this link now? It's on Fox News.

Finally, there is a copyrighted image at the end of this video (so the maker could really show a closeup) that comes up on the 1st page doing a Google image search. That image is copyrighted by the United States Air Force. Talk about asking for trouble!

Very fishy if you ask me.

Just sayin'

Originally posted by Whaler31

Very fishy if you ask me.

Wicked Fire is owned by this marketing slimeball on the left, Jon Fisher.



The search results show he's no stranger to internet scams.
Then again, affiliate marketing is just one big scam.

reply to post by freelance_zenarchist


I'll be darned! There ya go!

This is not about making a buck, it is about a country losing its freedom, and this schmuck pulls this stunt?

When you think about it, this is beyond no respect and no dignity.

What country is this imposter fighting for, anyway?

This fool should be ashamed of himself.

Just to be clear it's not known if MisterBees (the uploader of the fake drone video) is the guy from WickedFire affiliate marketing. It's possible he is, but it's also possible that MisterBees paid him or someone on his site for their "services" to make his video go viral.

Either way this was educational as to how viral videos and viral marketing works. Videos don't always go viral naturally, the views are paid for. Someone behind the scenes could be inflating the views with computer scripts and exploits (this was popular with bands trying to get exposure on MySpace a few years back), or they could have connections to many other sites where the video will be posted and likely to rack up the views. The number of YouTube views does not equal actual interest in the video, or guarantee that a human being has watched the video. The numbers are basically meaningless due to the cheaters and scammers.

this is the beginning of the end of all civility in the United States.

they look at us like slaves

"know your enemy, know his sword"

"attack where your enemy is weak, avoid your enemy where he is strong"

"it is more important to out think your enemy than to out fight him head on"

"do not advance relying on sheer military power"

Originally posted by PatientZer0
You people are #ng retarded children. The man already has additional video (from Elgin, IL) showing the blackhawks whippin' around there. Are those all fake too? It's a MF NATO Summit, you idiots!

Do any of you READ?! WTF is the debate here?? We now have these civilian, killing-machines roaming our airspace, 24/7, with plans for MANY more.

The original drone video is absolutely real, despite your ADHD attempts to prove otherwise.

Dude. It's absolutely fake. It's been proven so many times over now. It's not even a good fake. This thread even got dumped to the HOAX bin, because the video is a HOAX.

NATO is leaving now.
Just had 3 c-17s fly over y house. Tons of weird aircraft flying over. They're all leaving. Or Atleast their gear and cars and such are.

reply to post by freelance_zenarchist


Nicely done. I've watched this unfold with pure fascination and awe.The guy who made this obvious fake video did a great job getting views. He picked a GREAT topic at just the right time.

Both Whaler31 and freelance_zenarchist, thanks for the highly valuable information you both posted. Even though this forum is the [HOAX] forum, it's a fantastic place on ATS to see some REAL debunking taking place.

Movement from the moment it pans across looks very fake... It looks certainly like an additional layer of effects in some of those zooms and movements..

Part of it looks like a still-frame but the flags are still waving, that's the bit that confuses me but maybe there's a simple way to add that to the animation..

eta: a tineye search showed multiple old sources for what appears to be the image in the video. I still have no idea why anyone would bother to create a fake drone video though.

edit on 18-5-2012 by Asktheanimals because: added comment

Special effects university assignment ?

Drones Shot Down Over Texas

Surveillance drones blasted out of the sky in protest against 4th amendment intrusion
Paul Joseph Watson
Infowars.com
Tuesday, May 29, 2012

Following columnist Charles Krauthammer’s observation that the first person to shoot down a surveillance drone on U.S. soil will be a “folk hero,” gun enthusiasts in Texas have done precisely that as a protest against the use of spy drones on the American people.

www.infowars.com...

NOT A HOAX.............REAL WAKE UP ATS

Under the guise of fighting terrorists around the globe, Barack Obama’s use of drones has reached the United States. Congress passed HR 658, the FAA Air Transportation Modernization and Safety Improvement Act that authorizes the use of 30,000 spy drones over America. These drones are small and sophisticated; about the size of a golf ball or a hummingbird. So much for the Constitution and the Fourth Amendment.

American farmers and cattle ranchers in Iowa and Nebraska have been targeted by the Environmental Protection Agency for surveillance with the use of aerial drones, according to infowars.com. Information gleaned from these surveillance photographs can be passed on to law enforcement agencies or retained indefinitely, even though a leaked US Air Force document maintains 90 days, by the federal government to use against citizens at will.

The leaked document stipulates a drone that happens to capture surveillance images of Americans may store them for a period of 90 days. The paper appears to justify spying on citizens, as long as it is “incidental.” The document accepts that the Air Force may not record information non-consensually; however it does state “collected imagery may incidentally include US persons or private property without consent.”

Author: A little birdie told me - June 8, 2012 - By Thornton Parsons

Source: www.lsnewsgroup.com... and rest of article

A couple more interesting sites:

larrysinclair.org...

www.nuclearreader.info...

www.smoking-mirrors.com... (Smoking mirrors is very interesting site)

And this................don't know what to make of this video, strange and so informative I wonder how long this will be allowed to remain up.

Some ideas are so dangerous. Some ideas challenge the status quo so drastically they are removed under the guise of "not relevant" but relevant they are...........drones so small, so unnoticeable they can follow your every move????

We are beyond 1984

WARNING THIS VIDEO IS FOR ADULTS.............Usher the children out of the room. This isn't porno, violent but a thinking man's video and we don't want our children thinking too deeply now do we? it's also quite creepy.


This video explains our enslavement and why we allow it to continue. The drones, the cameras on every street corner, the TSA scanners and pat downs, it's all smack in your face.

The drones. Yes my neighbor saw one last week while gardening wizz by. It was as big as a humming bird, but mechanical.

A slave that does not know they are enslaved, will never rebel.

A prisoner that does not realize they are imprisoned will never try to escape.

And what are they putting in our water and air to make us all so compliant and oblivious to our current predicament?