All very interesting, just some general thoughts on the issue:
I must say that US evangelical-style Christianity has made some errors in a sustained narrative of homophobia and heterosexism since it came into mass
culture alongside the sexual revolution and the growing gay movement in the late 1960s (and it's probably no accident that the the two were
intertwined, just as more traditional churches kept a guarded silence or became liberal).
One reason, for example that ISKCON appealed to me when I was younger is because it seemed to have no special hell for gay people.
They just said that all illicit sex is against the "regulative principles" (but so was gambling, eating meat and intoxication).
However, having a lot more information via the Internet nowadays they were probably just as homophobic, and also had scandals with child-abuse.
So the more I actually read on other faiths, the nicer Christianity suddenly seems.
Protestant Christianity also has no single control, so churches can vary, and individuals can vary.
A lot of them might not see being gay as the best life in their scheme of things, but I know some of them are also unhappy with how politics have
framed the debate.
Having a Mormon pontificate on Christian marriage would probably have been unheard of in my youth.
They weren't even regarded as Christian.
But then I wonder, what would one expect Christians to do and say?
What do people want?
It's their right to choose a faith.
It's also not universally unpopular to be "fundamental" on certain issues - many Africanist traditionalists hugely support such politically incorrect
stances against former colonial churches that have now gone "liberal" on patriarchy. Here things like witch-hunts, exorcisms and homophobic violence
become very real dangers. There's also a lot of agency and activism, and even some Christians and native traditionalists opposing homophobia.
I don't think US Christianity is only speaking to America, but also to vast markets in countries that never had a sexual revolution, and don't see
modern social change on sexuality as an advantage.
Coming from colonialist or Marxist rule with entrenched moralities, they see these issues as a threat.
But once again, it depends on who you ask and what you ask.
I sometimes think bad and violently homophobic people will be like that without religion, for whatever psychological reasons.
If people believe that homosexuality is wrong then let them.
Just don't make it a pseudoscience that can hurt people, because there's also no proof for anti-gay science and therapies.
And don't say gays are all promiscuous when we've been excluded from Western forms of marriage.
That's such an unfair comparison.
Surely more inherent goodness can be drawn from heterosexual monogamy than simply making the "homosexual other" its entrenched opposite narrative?
edit on 16-5-2012 by halfoldman because: (no reason given)